Re: What to do if you cant tolerate pro-biotics

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> How would i go about replenishing the good bacteria? also foods with

You can use lacto-fermented vegetables, such as sauerkraut, kimchi, and the

like. You can lacto-ferement any vegetable. The book Wild Fermentation by

Sandor Katz has recipes.

http://www.wildfermentation.com/books_wildfermentation.php

KerryAnn

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> > How would i go about replenishing the good bacteria? also foods with

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> You can use lacto-fermented vegetables, such as sauerkraut, kimchi,

and the

> like. You can lacto-ferement any vegetable. The book Wild

Fermentation by

> Sandor Katz has recipes.

> http://www.wildfermentation.com/books_wildfermentation.php

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> KerryAnn

> http://www.cookingtf.com/ - American and Australian TF Menu Mailers

> http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - Traditional Foods forum

>

Is there anyway you can go into more information please instead of

purchasing abook from overseas which could take weeks ?

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> ******Anyone know what causes this, the intolerance to probiotics?

After years of giving our little one probiotics she is now intolerant

to them. Although she is not allergic to milk we tried the dairy

free, same problem.

Maybe it is not intolerance to the probiotics but rather to the

toxins released when the pathogens die. Could be she has a different

strain of yeast (or other pathogen) than she has had before and it

releases nastier toxins.

When I have trouble with die-off toxins, I take activated charcoal

and psyllium fiber. It seems to make a big difference. I imagine

other types of fiber might work too.

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> Her CDSA stool test indicated she had high normal amounts of

lactobacillus but low/normal bifidobacterium and I was told by the

Metametrix people that it's best to have higher bifidobacterer species

than lactobacillus. We tried just the bifidobacterium, but was still a

no go.

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> I do notice that most probiotics have more lactobacillus than

bifidobacter.

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> But any ideas why the intolerance?

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> Maybe it is not intolerance to the probiotics but rather to the

> toxins released when the pathogens die. Could be she has a different

> strain of yeast (or other pathogen) than she has had before and it

> releases nastier toxins.

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> > Never thought of this and her yeast has presented differently

than in the past. We've never tried psyllium fiber, she appears to

get plenty of fiber in her diet as she eats about 10-12 servings of

vegetables/fruit/whole wheat in her diet, is it different somehow?

I suppose the type of fiber is less important than taking it

1/2-1 hr after taking an antifungal (or in her case probiotics).

You could probably use high fiber breakfast cereal or the like.

I get plenty of fiber in my diet throughout the day, but that never

prevented these weird symptoms and the psyllium works like a charm.

Oh, I should point out that the symptoms I'm talking about occur

in the 1-2 hours right after taking an antifungal. If that's not

what she's getting from probiotics, then I'm not sure this would help.

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> We have done charcoal, certainly could repeat it.

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> Thanks,

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