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In a message dated 4/30/03 9:26:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shanley_n_teresa@... writes:

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

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> I can't take this anymore!!

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(((( & Zack))))

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he still on the diet?

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

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gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

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Hang in there . It is possible to cook with a child clinging

to your leg or shirt, but it does require extra care. It's also

annoying, but you get used to it and then they stop. This too is a

phase and this too will pass - eventually. Just hang in there.

((hugs))

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YES!

-- In parenting_autism , " muollo3 " <MUOLLO3@p...>

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> he still on the diet?

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>

> ~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

> -------------------------

> gina, 31, ny

> single mom to -

> kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

> trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

> parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

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jacquie's bang on here! happens with rowan all of the time. one step forward

in one area always means two steps back in another. that being said, rowan has

never " lost " a skill permanently in this process - just misplaced them for a bit

;o)

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

Re: Going crazzzzzy

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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Thanks (and everyone else for the encouragement)

I do this too, put him in his room. After awhile, I hear him jumping

off his bed. Thing is, once I take him out of his room it's the same

thing.

I've again begun to correct him. Only because I feel he can

understand " no' now. He shows willful disobedience..something he

hadn't done in the past. Meaning when I say no, he puts his hand

near the object, and looks at me and slowly proceeds until I say no

again. Then he does it anyway and holds his hands over his eyes when

it's done.

He seems to be understanding me better too. He's following

directions better as in " get the shoe " . Oddly enough, he will only

do it about 75% of the time. If it's something he likes, like

OUTSIDE, he seems to understand 100% of the time.

This isn't the same for his anxiety of course. I don't correct him

for that. Nor do I try to get too upset with his apparent

hypersensitive sensory issues.

I talked to my husband last night. How I just don't feel like I can

handle this anymore. If I allow myself to think about the fact that

he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

this, it's overwhelming.

So today is a new day, and I'll survive it yet again.

>

> Oh boy have I had days (weeks, months) like this. And I had been

at a real

> loss for a long time on what to do about it. But I have finally

found

> something that is working for us. Essentially, when n begins

to push

> me to my limit by being Obnoxious Boy, or being physically

aggressive, or

> just generally driving me insane ... he gets a 10 minute time-out

in his

> room.

>

> See I've been struggling because I realize that most autie

behavior, while

> intolerable, is largely innocent, and I can place him in his room

without

> feeling like I've unjustly punished him. Perhaps he will learn what

> behaviors are unacceptable, but for now I am happy just to diffuse

the

> tension. n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed,

which I

> think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from

time-out a

> happier person (a temporary affect). Also *I* get a break so that

I don't

> explode, and this makes my day manageable, cuz once I am pushed

beyond my

> limit, it ain't pretty, and I do not parent effectively, sometimes

for days.

>

> Also, as we all know, when our kids get worked up, it is useful to

remove

> the object of distress. I have come to accept that in most

situations *I*

> am that object. If I cannot decipher or fix what he needs then I

become the

> antagonist. As such, sometimes I think he needs those 10 minutes

away from

> me as much as I need the 10 minutes away from him.

>

> Hang in there! {{{{Theresa}}}}

>

> (SAHM in GA)

> MSN elizabethloht@h...

> n 33, mo, no formal dx

> Phoebe, 11 wks

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " shanley_n_teresa " <shanley_n_teresa@y...>

>

> > Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his

behavior

> > has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes

to

> > the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

> > come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

> > grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

> > and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's

running

> > for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go

outside.

> > Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor

then

> > screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

> > Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

> > When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body

on me

> > and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing

under

> > my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I

know

> > one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

> >

> > It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> > He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

> >

> > I can't take this anymore!!

> >

> >

> >

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> HA! This is why the kitchen is *off-limits* to n. After

numerous, and

> I mean numerous, attempts to make the kitchen safe enough for

n, I just

> gave up.

>

> Also I can hide in there from him : )

My house isn't designed so that I can block off my kitchen. But I've

seriously considered putting up new walls.

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Oh, oh, oh, he's two! Argh, *difficult* time for little auties (and their

mommies). At two years old, I was convinced nothing I was doing was making

a bit of difference. Now closer to 3, I can see that the seeds I planted

then are coming to fruition, but you couldn't have told me that then ...

> I've again begun to correct him. Only because I feel he can

> understand " no' now. He shows willful disobedience..something he

> hadn't done in the past. Meaning when I say no, he puts his hand

> near the object, and looks at me and slowly proceeds until I say no

> again. Then he does it anyway and holds his hands over his eyes when

> it's done.

Oh, yes, still battling this one. " no " is still a very funny game for

n. Can be quite annoying.

> He seems to be understanding me better too. He's following

> directions better as in " get the shoe " . Oddly enough, he will only

> do it about 75% of the time. If it's something he likes, like

> OUTSIDE, he seems to understand 100% of the time.

Selective listening, always my favorite (not!)

> I talked to my husband last night. How I just don't feel like I can

> handle this anymore. If I allow myself to think about the fact that

> he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

> this, it's overwhelming.

>

> So today is a new day, and I'll survive it yet again.

Yes, I've had this conversation with the dh many times. Sometimes I feel

like I've been in " survival mode " forever. But I can see now where things

are improving some, but I think many here will tell you that, seriously, 18

mo - 3 is really really tough (ha ha next year I'll be saying that 4 is

tough).

Hang tight,

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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In a message dated 5/1/03 1:27:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shanley_n_teresa@... writes:

> . If I allow myself to think about the fact that

> he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

> this, it's overwhelming.

>

>

Oh heavens yes-we do that too.We cry then we laugh then we sigh and keep on

keepin' on.

Hugz all around.

The Grammas & Keion

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Sue

Yes we're still on the diet, and I thought we were done with the

withdrawl symptoms. He did go through that horrible period and then

just seemed to be so much better. But now is back to horrible. He's

really bad about shutting doors and pushing buttons right now.

Here is what his diet is consisting of right now

Gluten free bread, I make it, I know it's completely gluten free.

Rodeo Jumbo Beef hot dogs, was told they're gluten free and the

package seems to jive with that

Mayer white turkey breast...this has been verified

Dwight Yokam Lanky link sausages...verified today as GFCF

Eggs

Kellogg's corn pops

fritos

dinty moore beef stew

kids kitchen beanie weenies

Chef Boyardee chicken rice with vegetables *verified

all canned fruit types

100 % pure meats that I buy at the grocery store and cook at home.

Since I've just started, I haven't really branched out much. I'm

pretty much sticking to what I know is GFCF

-- In parenting_autism , " smgaska " <smgaska@a...>

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> ((((())))),

> How long have you had him on the diet now? Have you pulled

anything else

> from him that maybe he was getting gluten in still from before?

Sometimes

> the kids go through a period of getting worse soon after starting

the diet,

> before they get better. It's described as being like withdrawal

since the

> reaction some kids get from eating some of these foods creates

something

> similar to opiates in their systems.

> Hang in there!!

> Sue

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RoOllErCoaSTer.

Penny:/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

I can't take this anymore!!

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Kellogg's corn pops are a no-no on the GFCF diet. I'm trying to dig up my

list of store-bought safe foods for you, hopefully can forward it to you this

weekend.

-BJ in polis, MD

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In a message dated 5/1/03 7:48:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shanley_n_teresa@... writes:

> 100 % pure meats

If you are doing hamburger sometimes after they ground it up they use wheat

flour to clean the machines. Call and check on this?????

Hugs

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Kelloggs corn pops were verified as GFCF in the GFCF Recipes Group,

but was mentioned that there was a possibility of cross

contamination. The way I figure it, almost anything has that

possibility though.

But if you have any more suggestions I'd love to hear it. And I'd

still like that list, and I'm compiling my own too.

> ,

>

> Kellogg's corn pops are a no-no on the GFCF diet. I'm trying to dig

up my

> list of store-bought safe foods for you, hopefully can forward it

to you this

> weekend.

>

> -BJ in polis, MD

>

>

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> Kelloggs corn pops were verified as GFCF in the GFCF Recipes

Group,

> but was mentioned that there was a possibility of cross

> contamination. The way I figure it, almost anything has that

> possibility though.

>

> But if you have any more suggestions I'd love to hear it. And I'd

> still like that list, and I'm compiling my own too.

>

>

>

, it could be the corn that he is reacting to aswell.

Just a thought.

Ali

mum to Lyndsey,7,(NT)

and Andy,5,(ASD)

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There are many things he could be reacting to, I get overwhelmed when

I start thinking about salysilics, nitrites, preservatives, corn,

soy, etc etc....

I want to have him established on the GFCF part before I begin to try

eliminating anything else. And yes, at some point I will begin

testing those things as well. I will start watching closely to see

if he reacts when I feed him corn products.

By the way, he's been a little better the last couple of days too.

New word again, SILLY!

> , it could be the corn that he is reacting to aswell.

> Just a thought.

>

> Ali

> mum to Lyndsey,7,(NT)

> and Andy,5,(ASD)

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> By the way, he's been a little better the last couple of days

too.

> New word again, SILLY!

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>

>

>

>

That's great !! Andy has a new phrase these days, (his speech

is really coming on..) He says all the time now...*emmm excuse me

pleaaaaseee* He sounds so cute when he says it too..LOL

Ali

mum to Lyndsey,7,(NT)

and Andy,5,(ASD)

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Oh, dear, , I don't have a lot of help to offer but I can offer a lot

of sympathy. Good about those new words though. Hang in there!

Salli

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> See I've been struggling because I realize that most autie behavior, while

> intolerable, is largely innocent, and I can place him in his room without

> feeling like I've unjustly punished him.

Just be sure he doesn't find this rewarding...some auties do, you know.

" Time alone? Yippee! " thinks small autistic boy.

Perhaps he will learn what

> behaviors are unacceptable, but for now I am happy just to diffuse the

> tension.

Well, it may be totally worth it just for this reason alone.

n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed, which I

> think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from time-out

a

> happier person (a temporary affect).

Yes, perhaps the behaviors stem from sensory needs?

Salli

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You know, now that I think back, before we even had any suspicions about

, I can remembering thinking it was funny that he'd sleep on his

blanket (as a pillow) and use his pillow as a blanket. He was probably

about 14 -15 months old.

ellen

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> n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed, which I

> > think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from

time-out

> a

> > happier person (a temporary affect).

>

> Yes, perhaps the behaviors stem from sensory needs?

Yes, I think you may be right. Strangely, it seems like in the last month

or two n has decided to become fully autistic. I mean for last 18

months I've thought, well maybe he is and maybe he isn't, then I figured,

well he probablly is, etc. But in the last few months he is suddenly

lining

up everything under the sun (all the vcr tapes face down, then face up,

then

stand them on end, etc with every object he gets his hand on), when I tuck

him in at night I find he is falling asleep with his pillow firmly placed

over his body (sensory stuff I imagine), there are others. But he never

did

any of these classically autie things before. As I've said before, it

seems

strange to me that it is like he is growing into autism ...

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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