Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 When all else fails, try Wikipedia. ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen DHEA and testosterone are 2 androgens that I am taking. I take DHEA 5mg 2x per day and testosterone 4 mg 2x per day. I have been taking this Rx, which also includes cortisol, for the last year + and it really helps. DHEA is available without an Rx; I think you need a script for testosterone. In any case, you will need to test yourself first to see what you need. I had tests done through my doctor; maybe Dean or others can suggest other ways. ---Katharine " jennifer.robinsong " wrote: Andy Cutler says in AI that hypoadrenal (and therefore hypoglycemic) women will be deficient in androgens and will feel better by supplementing androgens. He doesn't define androgens. I've looked in various places for a definition, but all I can come up with is that androgens are male sex hormones. That doesn't tell me specifically what I need or how much. What are all the androgens? Specifics, please. Can someone name the individual hormones he's referring to? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Hi, Actually, it was a 24-hour urine collection test. The doctor based the prescription on that. So far, I am happy with the results. He does not suggest retesting for at least 3-4 years. ---Katharine " jennifer.robinsong " wrote: Thanks. The tests you had done through your doctor--were they saliva hormone tests or blood serum hormone tests? I had blood serum hormone tests. An adrenal webgroup says saliva is the only way to find out what you really need to know about your hormone levels. I'm so glad to hear this hormone supplementation is making you feel better. Just like Andy's book said! I really need to know: did you determine your hormone replacement on on the basis of below-range blood levels (as opposed to saliva)? If so, did you feel that info. was sufficient to decide on a good replacement dose? Andy Cutler says in AI that hypoadrenal (and therefore hypoglycemic) women will be > deficient in androgens and will feel better by supplementing androgens. > > He doesn't define androgens. I've looked in various places for a definition, but all I can come > up with is that androgens are male sex hormones. That doesn't tell me specifically what I > need or how much. > > What are all the androgens? Specifics, please. Can someone name the individual hormones > he's referring to? > > Thanks. > > > P Before printing this e-mail, please consider the environment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 - http://e.hormone.tulane.edu/learning/androgens.html Looks informative.. I found after trying progesterone, estrogen, testosterone in herbal forms for years and with some benefits when I started taking pregnenolone I had a complete turn around.. I do not need any of the others now ..I am about to get my levels rechecked. My DHEA was always high.. but the others very low.. I do not feel the need for adrenal support. MY saliva test came back low normal.. But I may experiment again with licorice , ashwaghanda just to make sure.. These herbs helped a wee bit , but then I would get sensitive to them within a month or two of taking them. I take 25 mg daily of the pregnenolone .... Feels great...Sure wish some of the many health professionals had mentioned this in the many years of my search.. no more mental, nervous exhaustion !!!!... Nanciwell -- I've looked in various places for a definition, but all I can come > up with is that androgens are male sex hormones. That doesn't tell me specifically what I > need or how much. > > What are all the androgens? Specifics, please. Can someone name the individual hormones > he's referring to? > > Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation DeanNetwork wrote: wrote: > Andy Cutler says in AI that hypoadrenal (and therefore hypoglycemic) women > will be > deficient in androgens and will feel better by supplementing androgens. > > He doesn't define androgens. I've looked in various places for a > definition, but all I can come > up with is that androgens are male sex hormones. That doesn't tell me > specifically what I > need or how much. > > What are all the androgens? Specifics, please. Can someone name the > individual hormones > he's referring to? --------In Dr. Lee's book, Hormone Balance Made Simple, on page 11 he says, " Androgens are male hormones, including testosterone and androstenedione. DHEA is often considered an androgen but converts readily to estrogen in many women. " So Dean is basically right, the most common ones that are tested and talked about are testosterone and DHEA. And DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so increasing DHEA levels may help raise your testosterone levels. And I would not recommend you supplementing any of these, without testing first. You can do this by saliva testing through the Canary Club (Links section) without a doctor, if your doctor won't do it. And this will also test your progesterone levels, which many women can be low in too. So Andy doesn't tell you what or how much you need, because it is something that needs to be tested and dosed for the individual. And Andy also recommends Dr. Lee's books, and even sells them at his website now, so I would recommend you get at least one of his books and/or do some reading at his website (Links section), and definitely do some testing, before you try any supplementing in this area.--------Jackie Hi , That would be DHEA and testosterone, as far as I'm aware. Dosages from memory are 25-50mg DHEA for women (but many take less as they can't tolerate more - too much gives breast tenderness), and 1-3mg testosterone each day (but you should have this tested). Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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