Re: ALA trouble - need advise / encouragement

[Guest guest]

You mentioned getting more digestive problems with ALA..

nausea, muscle fatigue goes along with what I

experienced ,This was because ALA removes glutathione from the

liver.. pg 204 AI>... My gallbladder/liver crashed with

nausea. For me phosphaytidylcholine , and NAC brought me back.

The glutathione connection is a biggey for me,, makes my life

lovely with high doses of NAC, etc. Do not know what the

person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

NAC..

nanci

>

> ALA is getting me really frustrated.

>

> It is now about 18 months since I had my last filling removed, and

I

> have been trough about 40 rounds

> of (mostly) DMSA. Haven't managed to raise the dosage to more than

33

> mg (every 3. hour) due to GI problems

>

[Guest guest]

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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:52 PM

To: <frequent-dose-chelation >

Subject: Re: ALA trouble - need advise /

encouragement

> You mentioned getting more digestive problems with ALA..

> nausea, muscle fatigue goes along with what I

> experienced ,This was because ALA removes glutathione from the

> liver.. pg 204 AI>... My gallbladder/liver crashed with

> nausea. For me phosphaytidylcholine , and NAC brought me back.

> The glutathione connection is a biggey for me,, makes my life

> lovely with high doses of NAC, etc. Do not know what the

> person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

> NAC..

===============This is what they do according to Andy, Nanci , as NAC is

high sulphur.

In a message on the Frequent Dose Chelation group Andy Cutler says:

" I estimate that 33-50 % of mercury toxic people have elevated cysteine. If

you have elevated cysteine and you want to convert some glutathione, take

2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and your body will do the

rest. " Please read this link that includes information from Dr Cutler on

sulfur, cysteine levels and other important information related to this

subject.

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/sulfur_sulphur_foods.html

This is some of the best advice for people who do not do well with sulphur

foods and supp's

Hope it also helps you Kyrre

Kai

>

> nanci

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>

>

[Guest guest]

With burning eyes, visionary problems, diffculty concentrating and

english not been my native language this is alot to handle...

I have done several chenges to my diet, both considering toxidity and

yeast.

For yeast I have been using Goldenseal, coconut oil, garlic

(stopped), aloe vera juice and probiotics.

I have excluded or limited the intake of sulphur foods.

Do all suplhur food gead yeast, or is there a difference between

those high and low in thiols ?

Alka Seltzer (Gold) is not something I can get in my country, but

there might be similar products.

Since ALA is what is going to 'fix' me I really want to get going.

Right now I feel things are going in the wrong direction.

- Kyrre

> >

> > ALA is getting me really frustrated.

> >

> > It is now about 18 months since I had my last filling removed,

and I

> > have been trough about 40 rounds

> > of (mostly) DMSA. Haven't managed to raise the dosage to more

than 33

> > mg (every 3. hour) due to GI problems.

> > Had to stop for a couple of months this summer to fight yeast.

This

> > helped.

> >

> > So, 4 weeks ago I desiced to try ALA again. Have tried several

times

> > earlier, and it has always made me

> > feel so much worse that I have either stopped the ALA mid-round

and

> > continued with DMSA only, and/or done

> > several rounds of DMSA before I have dared to try ALA again. My

last

> > try with ALA is more than 6 months ago.

> >

> > This time I felt ok (a bit more fategued) during round and the

first

> > week after. Then things started going downhill,

> > and I have been struggeling since. More fategued, more visionary

> > problems, brain fog (which hasn't really been a

> > problem before), the ringing in the ears is back, dizziness,

nausea,

> > burning muscles etc.

> >

> > Feels like I'm moving Hg into the brain / CNS....

> >

> > Will I still have to do alot more rounds of DMSA ?

> >

> > Eager to get started with ALA and can use all the advise I can

get on

> > how to handle this.

> > I'm taking most of the supplements listed in AI. I'm not doing

> > anything for my adrenals; saliva test 'ok'.

> >

> > - Kyrre

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What is concidered useful amounts of glutamine and glycine ?

- Kyrre

> > Do not know what the

> > person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

> > NAC..

> >

> >

>

>

> Cysteine is one amino acid in glutathione. People who are already

> high in cysteine can add the other amino acids - glutamine and glycine

> - plus magnesium (which we already take anyway) to push the pathway

> towards glutathione production. (p 43 og AI).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> You mentioned getting more digestive problems with ALA..

> nausea, muscle fatigue goes along with what I

> experienced ,This was because ALA removes glutathione from the

> liver.. pg 204 AI>... My gallbladder/liver crashed with

> nausea. For me phosphaytidylcholine , and NAC brought me back.

> The glutathione connection is a biggey for me,, makes my life

> lovely with high doses of NAC, etc. Do not know what the

> person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

> NAC..

I found a post from Andy recently where he clarifies that statement

about ALA removing glutathione - http://onibasu.com/archives/am/128360.html

For raising the rate of glutathione production when cysteine is high:

http://onibasu.com/archives/amc/873.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/amc/2486.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/amc/3380.html

Related information:

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol#The_liver_and_mercury (*** New

section)

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Liver_support

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Glutathione

Jay

[Guest guest]

What is concidered useful amounts of glutamine and glycine ?

- Kyrre2:1 weight ratio:2 x 500 mg caps of glutamine with 1 500 mg cap of

glycineBut it`s not to uncommen to have a bad reaction to glutamine.-Per K

.