Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i sleep in a t shirt i put the tube inside my t shirt the shirt acts like an anchor for the tube and helps keep the canula more comfortable (lol) and in place (most of the time) Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BarbTo: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:46 PM Barb, Peggy, as usual, came up with some really excellent practical tips for dealing with the oxygen especially while you are sleeping. It is important to try to get used to sleeping with it. Our respirations slow and become more shallow when we sleep so it is just as important to use the O2 overnight as it is during the day. When I first started using it, I got tangled up in it, lost it in the bed, woke up with it in my hair etc etc etc. I used to use paper tape to attach the canulla to my cheeks so it stayed in place better. Now I don't have any problem with it. I've gotten used to it and somehow it stays in place overnight. Feel free to experiment a little...you can attach extra lengths of tubing to your supply and go further from the concentrator or resevoir. Just know that you lose some liter flow the more tubing you attach so you may need to turn it up a bit. This is where a liter meter comes in handy. You can get those from www.tinashomecare.com. You will adjust, it just takes time. Be patient with yourself. Rome wasn't built in a day! How's the summer in your neck of the woods? Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:21:26 PMSubject: Re: BarbBarb, As far as getting used to the 02.. yes it takes time. The biggest thing is think about sleeping with it because our respiratory system slows and our saturation really drops. Try the soft hose for sleeping. I am a side sleeper so I pull the hose over my side at hip level then have a little slack so it won't pull my ears. So until you get used to it try taping it up your tummy.. I know it sounds strange but don't forget we are special.. You will get used to it. When I first started sleeping with it I would get the cannula hose pinched and the alarm on the concentrator would scare the mess out of us. lol Anyhow the point is you need 02 24/7.. One more tip. When I go out I just use the 50 and 25 foot hoses to get in the yard. You do loose a little leader flow so check your saturation to make sure it stays up. And GO girl. If you use salter hoses they can be closed in a window or door.. put your hose under your shirt helps to. make a loop and stick it in your waist band.. You'll learn all these tricks. I learned from trial and my nose and ears learned from error. Are you on liquid or tanks. Sounds like liquid. I couldn't do the fill either. I can surly sling these tanks around. lol The giving up of independence was the hardest thing EVER. I still have a hard time with it. It looks like I could just give up and let the house not bother me but I just go nuts at times.. That is the times gets a good house cleaning lesson. lol Oh my Lord what would I do without him.. We also watched Dance last night and I cried to that was very powerful. Dealing with families is always so hard. The longer this goes on for me I keep thinking it will get better but they see the decline and I see it in their faces. just does what needs doing and tries not to show any emotion about the new me but I can see and feel it. Her hugs are a bit longer and I catch her just looking at me.. we talked about this one time and she said she had to burn my face in her brain because a picture is not me.. Oh yea, cry. cry cry. Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. Peggy - I'm doing pretty well. Been using the O2 for about 2 weeks now. Supposed to use it 24/7 on 2 liter, but haven't been using it for sleep - mostly cause I can't figure out how that works with someone (me) who tosses and turns. I do more stuff in the house now, but I need to use the portable to do anything outside the confines of the house and I am not proficient at filling it up. Mike (my darling husband) has been filling it for me, but I hate to ask him because, of course, I'm an independent cuss and hate to ask anybody to do anything. So gardening, or walking to the mailbox, taking the dogs for a short walk are no longer a spur-of-the moment thing, and I'm not reconciled to that yet. Now you've got me going..... On "So You Think You Can Dance" last night, two dancers performed a piece that was the choreographer's interpretation of his relationship with a friend who had recently been diagnosed with breast cancer. There was not a dry eye among the judges, and both my husband and I were crying too. I'm not sure which of the judges/performers said it, but a statement was made that -- on top of the difficulties brought on the the illness itself -- the "victim" bore the weight of shielding their loved ones from many of the problems and emotions they lived with on a daily basis. They try to put on a happy face so that those they love would not feel their pain. That reminded me of the plight many of us IPFers live with daily. Anyway, there I go waxing philosophical. I go back to Emory at the end of the month, and so I have that to look forward to. (smile) I've been sorry to read that you are dealing with some crappy days. I hope and pray that you will have some truly wonderful ones to make up for it. Hugs, B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:16:01 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb, how are you feeling and hows the breathing ?? Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876692334> Peggy: my hero! B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:58:54 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb for ((((((((((((You)))))))))))) more in Oct... Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876515970> Now I want a hug! ;-) B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: Peggy <pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AMSubject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment] Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take a fewon Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully packed...DSC00904.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 That's a good idea. I will try it! Thanks. B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Re: Barb i sleep in a t shirt i put the tube inside my t shirt the shirt acts like an anchor for the tube and helps keep the canula more comfortable (lol) and in place (most of the time) Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BarbTo: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:46 PM Barb, Peggy, as usual, came up with some really excellent practical tips for dealing with the oxygen especially while you are sleeping. It is important to try to get used to sleeping with it. Our respirations slow and become more shallow when we sleep so it is just as important to use the O2 overnight as it is during the day. When I first started using it, I got tangled up in it, lost it in the bed, woke up with it in my hair etc etc etc. I used to use paper tape to attach the canulla to my cheeks so it stayed in place better. Now I don't have any problem with it. I've gotten used to it and somehow it stays in place overnight. Feel free to experiment a little...you can attach extra lengths of tubing to your supply and go further from the concentrator or resevoir. Just know that you lose some liter flow the more tubing you attach so you may need to turn it up a bit. This is where a liter meter comes in handy. You can get those from www.tinashomecare.com. You will adjust, it just takes time. Be patient with yourself. Rome wasn't built in a day! How's the summer in your neck of the woods? Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:21:26 PMSubject: Re: BarbBarb, As far as getting used to the 02.. yes it takes time. The biggest thing is think about sleeping with it because our respiratory system slows and our saturation really drops. Try the soft hose for sleeping. I am a side sleeper so I pull the hose over my side at hip level then have a little slack so it won't pull my ears. So until you get used to it try taping it up your tummy.. I know it sounds strange but don't forget we are special.. You will get used to it. When I first started sleeping with it I would get the cannula hose pinched and the alarm on the concentrator would scare the mess out of us. lol Anyhow the point is you need 02 24/7.. One more tip. When I go out I just use the 50 and 25 foot hoses to get in the yard. You do loose a little leader flow so check your saturation to make sure it stays up. And GO girl. If you use salter hoses they can be closed in a window or door.. put your hose under your shirt helps to. make a loop and stick it in your waist band.. You'll learn all these tricks. I learned from trial and my nose and ears learned from error. Are you on liquid or tanks. Sounds like liquid. I couldn't do the fill either. I can surly sling these tanks around. lol The giving up of independence was the hardest thing EVER. I still have a hard time with it. It looks like I could just give up and let the house not bother me but I just go nuts at times.. That is the times gets a good house cleaning lesson. lol Oh my Lord what would I do without him.. We also watched Dance last night and I cried to that was very powerful. Dealing with families is always so hard. The longer this goes on for me I keep thinking it will get better but they see the decline and I see it in their faces. just does what needs doing and tries not to show any emotion about the new me but I can see and feel it. Her hugs are a bit longer and I catch her just looking at me.. we talked about this one time and she said she had to burn my face in her brain because a picture is not me.. Oh yea, cry. cry cry. Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. Peggy - I'm doing pretty well. Been using the O2 for about 2 weeks now. Supposed to use it 24/7 on 2 liter, but haven't been using it for sleep - mostly cause I can't figure out how that works with someone (me) who tosses and turns. I do more stuff in the house now, but I need to use the portable to do anything outside the confines of the house and I am not proficient at filling it up. Mike (my darling husband) has been filling it for me, but I hate to ask him because, of course, I'm an independent cuss and hate to ask anybody to do anything. So gardening, or walking to the mailbox, taking the dogs for a short walk are no longer a spur-of-the moment thing, and I'm not reconciled to that yet. Now you've got me going..... On "So You Think You Can Dance" last night, two dancers performed a piece that was the choreographer's interpretation of his relationship with a friend who had recently been diagnosed with breast cancer. There was not a dry eye among the judges, and both my husband and I were crying too. I'm not sure which of the judges/performers said it, but a statement was made that -- on top of the difficulties brought on the the illness itself -- the "victim" bore the weight of shielding their loved ones from many of the problems and emotions they lived with on a daily basis. They try to put on a happy face so that those they love would not feel their pain. That reminded me of the plight many of us IPFers live with daily. Anyway, there I go waxing philosophical. I go back to Emory at the end of the month, and so I have that to look forward to. (smile) I've been sorry to read that you are dealing with some crappy days. I hope and pray that you will have some truly wonderful ones to make up for it. Hugs, B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:16:01 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb, how are you feeling and hows the breathing ?? Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876692334> Peggy: my hero! B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:58:54 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb for ((((((((((((You)))))))))))) more in Oct... Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876515970> Now I want a hug! ;-) B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: Peggy <pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AMSubject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment] Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take a fewon Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully packed...DSC00904.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Roxanne - Sounds odd, but I'll give it a try. Thanks. B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:58:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Barb Hi Barb, I just recently started sleeping with 02 and experienced the same problems with the hose and cannula. This may sound weird, but it works for me----I put my head in the loop of the hose so that the tightener gizmo is at the back of my head. I pull it up high and tighten it there. It stays put all night and I am a tosser and turner! Roxanne, 59, South Carolina2006 Asthma/ PF2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/GerdLady Slipper Orchid Now I want a hug! ;-) B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: Peggy <pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AMSubject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment] Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take a fewon Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully packed...DSC00904.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 barb i know filling the helios is awkward in the beginning, but you need to practice doing it yourself, that way you can maintain some independence jerry still works, so i have no choice, but to fill it myself yes a little thing like walking the dog -- first you have to fill the helios Rocky gets excited when i fill the Marathon (used to use a helios) -- it means mom (me) is getting ready to take him for a walk Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BarbTo: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:49 PM Thanks for the tips, Peggy. I have been safety-pinning the hose to my hip pocket so that I don't hurt my ears or nose if I "forget". Now I find that, several times, I have taken off the cannula and put it down only to find it is being dragged on the floor after me because it's still pinned to me. Duh! I'm trying very hard to learn to live with different standards, and find the bright side. For example, not having been able to do much weeding this year (and we have 1.6 acres to care for), I find that among the noxious weeds are many beautiful wildflowers that I never would have seen if I'd been able to weed. I am having a tough time relinquishing some of my cooking duties. I am such a picky eater, and not a bad little cook, and... ya know... Mike doesn't cook the way I do. That's a tough one for me. But once I get that electric stove in here, I'll be doing the cooking as long as I am able (hopefully many, many years to come). Whenever anyone asks hom I am, my standard reply is "good". If pressed, I tell a little more, but I do keep a lot to myself, sharing it only somewhat with a good friend, but mostly keeping it in or "sharing" on this forum. I am very grateful for this forum and the wonderful people on it who I now consider my friends. I am so looking forward to October..... B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:21:26 PMSubject: Re: BarbBarb, As far as getting used to the 02.. yes it takes time. The biggest thing is think about sleeping with it because our respiratory system slows and our saturation really drops. Try the soft hose for sleeping. I am a side sleeper so I pull the hose over my side at hip level then have a little slack so it won't pull my ears. So until you get used to it try taping it up your tummy.. I know it sounds strange but don't forget we are special.. You will get used to it. When I first started sleeping with it I would get the cannula hose pinched and the alarm on the concentrator would scare the mess out of us. lol Anyhow the point is you need 02 24/7.. One more tip. When I go out I just use the 50 and 25 foot hoses to get in the yard. You do loose a little leader flow so check your saturation to make sure it stays up. And GO girl. If you use salter hoses they can be closed in a window or door.. put your hose under your shirt helps to. make a loop and stick it in your waist band.. You'll learn all these tricks. I learned from trial and my nose and ears learned from error. Are you on liquid or tanks. Sounds like liquid. I couldn't do the fill either. I can surly sling these tanks around. lol The giving up of independence was the hardest thing EVER. I still have a hard time with it. It looks like I could just give up and let the house not bother me but I just go nuts at times.. That is the times gets a good house cleaning lesson. lol Oh my Lord what would I do without him.. We also watched Dance last night and I cried to that was very powerful. Dealing with families is always so hard. The longer this goes on for me I keep thinking it will get better but they see the decline and I see it in their faces. just does what needs doing and tries not to show any emotion about the new me but I can see and feel it. Her hugs are a bit longer and I catch her just looking at me.. we talked about this one time and she said she had to burn my face in her brain because a picture is not me.. Oh yea, cry. cry cry. Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. Peggy - I'm doing pretty well. Been using the O2 for about 2 weeks now. Supposed to use it 24/7 on 2 liter, but haven't been using it for sleep - mostly cause I can't figure out how that works with someone (me) who tosses and turns. I do more stuff in the house now, but I need to use the portable to do anything outside the confines of the house and I am not proficient at filling it up. Mike (my darling husband) has been filling it for me, but I hate to ask him because, of course, I'm an independent cuss and hate to ask anybody to do anything. So gardening, or walking to the mailbox, taking the dogs for a short walk are no longer a spur-of-the moment thing, and I'm not reconciled to that yet. Now you've got me going..... On "So You Think You Can Dance" last night, two dancers performed a piece that was the choreographer's interpretation of his relationship with a friend who had recently been diagnosed with breast cancer. There was not a dry eye among the judges, and both my husband and I were crying too. I'm not sure which of the judges/performers said it, but a statement was made that -- on top of the difficulties brought on the the illness itself -- the "victim" bore the weight of shielding their loved ones from many of the problems and emotions they lived with on a daily basis. They try to put on a happy face so that those they love would not feel their pain. That reminded me of the plight many of us IPFers live with daily. Anyway, there I go waxing philosophical. I go back to Emory at the end of the month, and so I have that to look forward to. (smile) I've been sorry to read that you are dealing with some crappy days. I hope and pray that you will have some truly wonderful ones to make up for it. Hugs, B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:16:01 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb, how are you feeling and hows the breathing ?? Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876692334> Peggy: my hero! B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:58:54 AMSubject: Re: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and meBarb for ((((((((((((You)))))))))))) more in Oct... Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, Florida Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. <1.876515970> Now I want a hug! ;-) B Barbara McD IPF, Sept 08 Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: Peggy <pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AMSubject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment] Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take a fewon Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully packed...DSC00904.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Bruce i usually fill the marathon once a day before i go out my first outing is usually to walk the dog sometimes it needs to be refilled depending on how i spend my day when going away for the day, i also fill the little helios and use that in the car, it's there as a backup Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BarbTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 8:40 PM Pink JoyceI know I may be a bit wasteful too but I try to keep mine at leastpartially filled so if I want to quickly go outdoors or make a quick runto the corner store or to fast food or something, I'm ready. I think forsome, especially at first, they may find filling it in advance to avoidthe stress of the last minute try to be quick fill so we can leave. Iknow it means losing more through evaporation but it may sometimes beeasier.Just thinking through it, I've now filled a Helios Marathon (had otherstoo) at least 600 times so its as second nature as grabbing car keys oranything else.>>>>>>> Now I want a hug!>> ;-)> B>>> Barbara McD> IPF, Sept 08> Beautiful Western NC>>>> Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we willreap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9>>>>>>>> From: Peggy pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AM> Subject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment]>>>> Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were> to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take afew> on Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.>> Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm> incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully> packed...>>> DSC00904.JPG> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 then i put both the marathon and the helios in the baby stroller and inform people that they are fraternal twins LOL Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BarbTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 8:40 PM Pink JoyceI know I may be a bit wasteful too but I try to keep mine at leastpartially filled so if I want to quickly go outdoors or make a quick runto the corner store or to fast food or something, I'm ready. I think forsome, especially at first, they may find filling it in advance to avoidthe stress of the last minute try to be quick fill so we can leave. Iknow it means losing more through evaporation but it may sometimes beeasier.Just thinking through it, I've now filled a Helios Marathon (had otherstoo) at least 600 times so its as second nature as grabbing car keys oranything else.>>>>>>> Now I want a hug!>> ;-)> B>>> Barbara McD> IPF, Sept 08> Beautiful Western NC>>>> Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we willreap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9>>>>>>>> From: Peggy pac1773 (AT) cfl (DOT) rr.com>> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:31:15 AM> Subject: 7/23/09 Missy Elisa and me [1 Attachment]>>>> Here is the only picture I have of us. I need a new camera. We were> to busy viviting to think about pictures much. HoweverTT did take afew> on Elisas camera. She will post them when she gets home.>> Sure could use a little color in that head.. Dark glasses tell ya I'm> incognito.. couldn't let everyone think that is me so round and fully> packed...>>> DSC00904.JPG> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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