Re: W A , history ---to (parasites)

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wendy

I had liver fluke parasites that i tried a lot of things for over 2+

years. I could see them with the naked eye, as they were about as long

as your baby fingernail bUT no lab (i had abouit 5-6 lab tests done)

would confirm them

I tried praziquantel (mult doses) and I think all it did was fdrive

the parasites deeper and pi$$ them off.

Once I had my amalgams removed (november 2007) and started chelating

I had two major purges of these old dead liver flukes. I tried to

combine the chelation with various herbal treataments for parasites

(Kroeger herbs; wormwood combination; Spiro Kete; and Rascal). The

herbal tretaments were too much. I had a lot of pain and burning,

trying to do both.

It had been recommended by TK-moderator to not try and do parasite

cleanses when chelating as it would be too much on your body. AI I

believe says Black Walnut hulls can be harsh even though hulda clarke

recommends these smiliar herbs

The truth is I do not think any Dr other than AI-Andy Cutler

understands the role of mercury in harboring and supporting a toxic

internal gut environment that allows many viruses/parasites and

bacteria to exist and thrive

personally I would be hesitant of getting into these herbal treatments

while chelating. In my case anyway I feel these liver fules have been

getting a beating from chelating

Good luck

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , W A

wrote:

> I had a question for you....do people with parasites have a harder

> time eliminating them because of the mercury? I can't seem to break

> their cycle. Any ideas? He said he wants to put me on herbs for

> them for 90 days to clear all of them. I have done, topical, rx's,

> cleanses, alternative, traditional, you name it and its grueling.

> Do you know anything about that in relationship to heavy metal?

> Thanks again,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I saw liver flukes too after 2nd parasite cleanse along with worms and i do

believe this is

all related to the mercury. Thanks for confirming that.

I do feel a bit tired today as I just finished another cleanse so I will take

your advice and not do both. I was headed in that direction but my system is

taxed.

I also did antiboiotics, one being the praziquental and each time it got worse.

My research has just led me back to the same place, andy cutler.

Thanks,

wendy

Re: W A , history ---to (parasites)

wendy

I had liver fluke parasites that i tried a lot of things for over 2+

years. I could see them with the naked eye, as they were about as long

as your baby fingernail bUT no lab (i had abouit 5-6 lab tests done)

would confirm them

I tried praziquantel (mult doses) and I think all it did was fdrive

the parasites deeper and pi$$ them off.

Once I had my amalgams removed (november 2007) and started chelating

I had two major purges of these old dead liver flukes. I tried to

combine the chelation with various herbal treataments for parasites

(Kroeger herbs; wormwood combination; Spiro Kete; and Rascal). The

herbal tretaments were too much. I had a lot of pain and burning,

trying to do both.

It had been recommended by TK-moderator to not try and do parasite

cleanses when chelating as it would be too much on your body. AI I

believe says Black Walnut hulls can be harsh even though hulda clarke

recommends these smiliar herbs

The truth is I do not think any Dr other than AI-Andy Cutler

understands the role of mercury in harboring and supporting a toxic

internal gut environment that allows many viruses/parasites and

bacteria to exist and thrive

personally I would be hesitant of getting into these herbal treatments

while chelating. In my case anyway I feel these liver fules have been

getting a beating from chelating

Good luck

-- In frequent-dose- chelation@ yahoogroups. com, W A <imagineus11@ ...>

wrote:

> I had a question for you....do people with parasites have a harder

> time eliminating them because of the mercury? I can't seem to break

> their cycle. Any ideas? He said he wants to put me on herbs for

> them for 90 days to clear all of them. I have done, topical, rx's,

> cleanses, alternative, traditional, you name it and its grueling.

> Do you know anything about that in relationship to heavy metal?

> Thanks again,

>

[Guest guest]

, the parasites were the last (I think )Problem that entered me

from what i have read, mercury/heavy metals lead to toxic GI

enviroment..which in turn leads to candida/yeast (many experts say

that yeast/candida is teh bodies attempt to deal with mercury).

the yeast and candida and mercury create the right envirnment for

bacteria/viruses/parasites to thrive...

so then the theory would eliminate mercury/heavy metals and create an

inhospitable yeast/candida environment and your immune system should

be able to take over

many of these parasite cleanses are in them selves very toxic as they

have to be to kill these parasite beasts..but if we are already

poisoned and have liver/kidney/bad blood issues, I do think its too

much to go directly after parasites...

antibiotics really messed me up 3 years ago as well. I have read that

with mercury it (antibiotics) can create an almost teflon protection

around these bacteria/parasites/viruses in your cells..therefore

antibiotics not only do no work for many people, but create

antibiotic resistant bugs

i did like 4-5 praziquantel treatments, all the research I have read

says that 1-2 treatments should be enough..so obviously something in

my body (ie mercury) was making it impossible for these parasites to

be eliminated

>

> Hi ,

>

> I saw liver flukes too after 2nd parasite cleanse along with worms

> and i do believe this is all related to the mercury. Thanks for

> confirming that.

> I do feel a bit tired today as I just finished another cleanse so I

will take your advice and not do both. I was headed in that

> direction but my system is taxed.

> I also did antiboiotics, one being the praziquental and each time

> it got worse. My research has just led me back to the same place,

> andy cutler.

> Thanks,

> wendy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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There is another forum at www.curezone.org which has a

parasite forum.. when I was looking at it it meentioned a

cleanse called Humaworm... I have not had expereince with it

but you should look it up and see if people are still happy with

it now a few years later....

I do know that bacteria problems and yes maybe parasites

get better the more you do frequent dose..>..My ecoli

overgrowth is affecting me alot less. I also had a

parasite problem as I actually passed a long one just a

few weeks before getting chronic fatigue..

I do know that it was the heavy duty drug I was given to

kill of the parasites that brought me into a crisis.. IT wrecked

my digestion and thus my mineral/ vitamin absorptoin..

Please try and find a natural way first..

There is also Halda e cleanse.. I could find a website

if you cannot .. I have done a couple , with no worsening of

my symptoms. Try and go easy though .. try and get those

supplements into you, as I do beleive that if our systems are

better nourished the buggies cannot get through to hurt

us so much ...

Take care---nanci

[Guest guest]

HI

defintely NO to DMPS IV;s they are very very dangerous..they dislodge

too much mercury

do you have health care coverage?

I am not sure how my coverage with Blue cross/anthem covers it; i

will ask my phramacist to see how it (dmps) was coded for

i would only read the relevant sections of the book to start, ie in

your case it might just be adrenals..go to the index and read the

sections on adrenal and hydrocortisone.

IMO this is what i would suggest to both chelate, recover from immune

crash (adrenals) and treat yeast/candida which most of us have (ie

effectively improving internal terrain)

A) chelation with dmps or dmsa;

adrenal support with hydrocortisone

C) yeast/candida treatments (which includes Hydrocortisone per AI)

will improve your terrain and allow immune system to take over

D) liver support such as milk thistle

E) NO ALA for at least 3 months; you have to lower body burden of

mercury first with dmsa/dmps

F) cut out all sulphur foods as they contribute to yeast

G) see page 67-68 for critical supps, but i would thing A-C above are

what in your particular case need attention

dmps does not lower your neutrophils which are I believe an immune

protectorant part of your blood cells (white or red i cannot

remember??). DMSA lowers these neutrophils so I would can be the

cause of more colds and respiratory infections

i am not sure i understand your question on stool elimination. I

would believe this is where most bugs come out as they are primarily

in GI tract

personally i would try to see if there is a doc who will prescribe

dmps; as it appears dmsa is causing some problems. Again my persoanl

feeling is by chelating you are elimianting the toxic terrain that

allows these bugs to exist and thrive. It sounds like your immune

crash would indicate hypoadrenal problems

you should be tested for adrenals first and likely would have to be

to get on hydrocortisone as HC (hydrocortisone) is a prescription

there are forms of parasites that come out of your skin. I did not to

my knowledge have these but have heard and read of them

eating a green/raw food diet is good; no breads, pasta, milk, sugar

and not too many fruits. I have existed primarily on chicken/celery

(not juiced) and weak tea for i would say 80% of my diet for the last

8 months.occasional nectarine/peach and cashew butter

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> Hi ,

> So, I got the book AI and its a bit overwhelming...so much

information.

> I don't know where to start?

> You had said if I could do dmps might be a good choice? What about

DMPS IV?

> I did have loose stools after Dmsa and started to catch a cold

after ea round so what is the difference with dmps? If i'm on a

budget what supplements are the most important?

> I'm a little embarrassed but I must say that the parasites are

on my scalp. I can feel them sometimes and I get bites there. I had a

major crash of my immune system five mos ago and since then its been

a constant battle to regain my health. I went to a specialist and

tested pos. for several parasites but I have illiminated many in my

stool. Have you ever heard of this? and is there anything you would

recommend? DO I have to wait 3 mos to do the ALA? and maybe that

would help?

> All of this is so bizarre although I'm grateful that I'm able to

address it and have hope that I will get better.

> This group has been so helpful, thank God I was directed here.

> Any input would be helpful,

> wendy

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[Guest guest]

wendy

i think loose stools could be a sign of a number of things as i had

very loose stools for almost the frist 4-5 months of chealtion/ In my

case i think it was a) below

A) i think mercury being expelled causes loose stools

it could be too much vitamin C

c) parasites seem to cause periods of constipation and loose stools

[Guest guest]

Nanci,

Thanks, i did check it out and i'm going to call tomorrow.

Do you know where to get supplements cheaper that are of

good quality.

It gets very expensive as you know.

thanks again,

wendy

----- Original Message ----

..

There is another forum at www.curezone. org which has a

parasite forum.. when I was looking at it it meentioned a

cleanse called Humaworm... I have not had expereince with it

but you should look it up and see if people are still happy with

it now a few years later....

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