Re: thyroid problems - armour or T3?

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In frequent-dose-chelation seashell_555 wrote:

I'm pretty sure I have thyroid problems but am not sure which I

need - Armour or T3? Is it just trial and error? I was on Armour

awhile ago but the doctor would only raise it a little because of my

TSH score. Will the canary results indicate which I need?

--------Hi Val. I will be looking into this too, because I just had some

thyroid testing done, and my numbers are whacked! I sent them to , but

haven't heard back from her yet. I know she likes doing the protocol

with cycles of SRT3, but not sure if that will work for me, because I think my

pituitary is really whacked/poisoned.

Anyway, I think some people do well on Armour, and some seem to do better on

T3 alone. It might depend on whether your body has trouble converting T4 into

T3, then you might do better on T3 alone. I know really likes SRT3

(slow-release), but she takes it daily, not in cycles.

I think Dean has some good thyroid info at his website, and Jay does have some

stuff on the onibasu/wiki.

Here's my current labs. They didn't test antibodies this time, but after

these results, I think I'm going to ask for them.

free T3 ---- 3.42 range 3.50 - 3.90

free T4 ---- 1.30 range .58 - 1.64

TSH ----- almost 0 range .34 - 5.60

My understanding is that if my pituitary was working right, that when it

sensed my low T3, then it should be sending out TSH to tell my thyroid to make

more thyroid hormone. Normally a low TSH would mean *hyper* thyroid or too much

hormone, and that's certainly not me! So something is definitely whacked, and

I'm not sure if it's because of the Hashi's (thyroid antibodies), or if my

pituitary is that poisoned and not working right. I'll let you guys know what I

find out.

But this does answer some questions, because I haven't felt that great lately,

even with adrenal support. So these hormones are definitely a balancing

act.--------Jackie

Thanks,

Val

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> Here's my current labs. They didn't test antibodies this time,

but after these results, I think I'm going to ask for them.

>

> free T3 ---- 3.42 range 3.50 - 3.90

> free T4 ---- 1.30 range .58 - 1.64

> TSH ----- almost 0 range .34 - 5.60

>

> My understanding is that if my pituitary was working right, that

when it sensed my low T3, then it should be sending out TSH to tell

my thyroid to make more thyroid hormone. Normally a low TSH would

mean *hyper* thyroid or too much hormone, and that's certainly not

me! So something is definitely whacked, and I'm not sure if it's

because of the Hashi's (thyroid antibodies), or if my pituitary is

that poisoned and not working right. I'll let you guys know what I

find out.

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Jackie,

One doc I saw said I had a pituitary problem. Same thing as

you, my TSH was low but I certainly wasn't hyperthyroid. Always

freezing, dry hair, thick coarse skin..etc.

Over on the Natthyroid group, Val (not me!) said that pituitary

problems are permanent and need alot of different hormone support.

She also doesn't believe the mercury connection - thinks its been

blown way out of proportion. Not sure why she feels that way

although she does recognize that chelation is hard on the body. ??

Anyway, you and I have similar problems. So, what I'm wondering is

will thyroid support be helpful if your pituitary is out of whack?

And will chelation help the pituitary? I know someone here posted

that they thought their pituitary was starting to work again after

chelation. But in the meanwhile, how do you support yourself with

a poisoned pituitary gland?

I know Andy mentioned that pituitary problems were more serious -

not sure how he recommended treating it.

Val

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Val

I am not a hormonal expert but I used the temp Syndrome-WTS

protocol which worked very well for me in raising my temps (this is

how defines low thyroid)

as well, i do not know how armour is viewed in terms of being a

permament solution or if it becomes a permanent support treatment

WTS is purported to reset your thyroid and basically helps guide your

thyroid (i compare it to priming the pump) back into natural and

permanent working order which i believe it has done for me

the Process the wilson's temp syndrome protocol goes through (3 times

of " capturing your temp " --ie increasing the T3 until your average

body temp is 98.60 (staying at every incremntal dosage for 2 days;

holding this level of dosage for two days and then droping the T3

dosage at increments of 7.50 mcgs) is designed to accomplish a

permanent solution

see www.wtsmed.com

my understaning is that many experts on thyroid say blood and other

such fluid tests are very unreliable. 's theory as explained to

me by my doctor, says if your body temps are low, it is a sign

your " furnace " , ie thyroid is not operating at a high enough level

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> I'm pretty sure I have thyroid problems but am not sure which I

> need - Armour or T3? Is it just trial and error? I was on Armour

> awhile ago but the doctor would only raise it a little because of

my

> TSH score. Will the canary results indicate which I need?

>

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> Thanks,

> Val

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