Re: Jackie's thyroid labs/pituitary problem?

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In frequent-dose-chelation seashell_555 wrote:

Jackie wrote:

> Here's my current labs. They didn't test antibodies this time,

but after these results, I think I'm going to ask for them.

>

> free T3 ---- 3.42 range 3.50 - 3.90

> free T4 ---- 1.30 range .58 - 1.64

> TSH ----- almost 0 range .34 - 5.60

>

> My understanding is that if my pituitary was working right, that

when it sensed my low T3, then it should be sending out TSH to tell

my thyroid to make more thyroid hormone. Normally a low TSH would

mean *hyper* thyroid or too much hormone, and that's certainly not

me! So something is definitely whacked, and I'm not sure if it's

because of the Hashi's (thyroid antibodies), or if my pituitary is

that poisoned and not working right. I'll let you guys know what I

find out.

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Jackie,

One doc I saw said I had a pituitary problem. Same thing as

you, my TSH was low but I certainly wasn't hyperthyroid. Always

freezing, dry hair, thick coarse skin..etc.

Over on the Natthyroid group, Val (not me!) said that pituitary

problems are permanent and need alot of different hormone support.

She also doesn't believe the mercury connection - thinks its been

blown way out of proportion. Not sure why she feels that way

although she does recognize that chelation is hard on the body. ??

----------I used to read that group for awhile, and I agree you can learn some

stuff over there, but I didn't like that they wouldn't acknowledge the mercury

connection, so I tend to trust Andy way more than them. JMPO. There are

studies that have found *extremely* high levels of mercury in the pituitaries of

dentists, so I don't know why she wouldn't believe that mercury could affect

your pituitary. They seem ultra-defensive about the mercury thing on their

group, not sure why, and I don't have time to argue with them, so I left.

Anyway, the pituitary controls alot of hormones, so yes I agree that needing

alot of different hormones is very likely, and I do. If they don't find a tumor

on your pituitary, and if it is truly poisoned, then I would have to believe

that chelation could possibly help. I'm sure there are different levels, and if

too much damage is done, then maybe full recovery isn't possible, and I'm sure

that's why Andy can't guarantee everyone that *everything* will get fixed and

return to normal.

I haven't even started ALA chelation yet, so time will tell for me. And I

think my combination of mercury and arsenic makes this worse yet, as Andy

mentions on page 86 of HTI, that " Mercury and arsenic in particular cause a

hypothalamic intoxication, affecting mood, emotions, and body functions such as

sleeping, appetite, blood pressure, heart rate and thirst. " Now he didn't say

pituitary, but I know these two are mentioned together alot, so I believe mine

are both rather poisoned, and that's why so many things are messed up in my

body.-----Jackie

Anyway, you and I have similar problems. So, what I'm wondering is

will thyroid support be helpful if your pituitary is out of whack?

---------I have sent some emails out and awaiting responses, but I think that

thyroid support might be essential if the pituitary is out of whack. If our

pituitary is not sending out TSH to tell the thyroid to make more hormone when

we actually do need it, then the only way to get adequate thyroid hormone would

be through supplementing it.

And I have done adrenal support and some other hormones for a long time now,

and my thyroid is still whacked, so that didn't make any difference.-----Jackie

And will chelation help the pituitary? I know someone here posted

that they thought their pituitary was starting to work again after

chelation.

--------As I said, I believe it can help, but I'm sure Andy can't give us any

guarantees as to what will totally heal and what won't. But there is evidence

that mercury likes the pituitary, so I don't see how getting the mercury out of

your brain could hurt, and should certainly help. It's better to have the

possibility of improvement with chelation, than to be told it is

permanent.-------Jackie

But in the meanwhile, how do you support yourself with

a poisoned pituitary gland?

-----------I do believe that it may require supplementing lots of hormones,

and I need to read that part of AI again, but I think that is exactly what Andy

says. And it seems to be the case with me. I am low in lots of hormones, and

addressing those has helped, but now it looks like the thyroid is the big

problem I need to address next.

Val, I'll be really interested to see your Canary Club test results when you

get them. Did you do adrenal, thyroid, and sex hormones?---------Jackie

I know Andy mentioned that pituitary problems were more serious -

not sure how he recommended treating it.

--------I just read this yesterday over at onibasu/wiki, and Cutler says that

chelation and EFA's is how to treat the pituitary.-------Jackie

http://onibasu.com/archives/fdc/2405.html

Val