Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 In a message dated 5/1/03 8:14:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, weya@... writes: > Okay, I'm waxing poetic now, so I'll just leave it here. I just needed > to share those 2 little boys with all of you. :-) > > Debbie with twins > Oh thank you Debbie! The Grammas & Keion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Debbie, that sounds wonderful! Have you picked a school for Jordan yet? Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet I already posted about the aftermath of visiting some of the preschool classrooms. But some very touching events occurred while I was visiting too. Grammas, your concerns about Keion knowing/showing love made me think of the interactions I had with 2 little boys while I was observing. In my mind, they were examples of children unable to interact appropriately but making the effort to connect in any way they can ... the friendliness of a child coming through in very small or odd gestures. First touching event occurred with a little boy named . He was playing with an alphabet puzzle in the 2nd classroom I visited. He was a bit older (4-5?) and clearly autistic ... trilling, finger flicking, and more entranced by the holes in the R, P, O, Q, etc than the letters themselves. The teacher introduced him to me and I said " Hi " ... and got no response from him. Jordan has taught me that just because there is no response, does not mean they didn't hear you or they are ignoring you. So I happily moved on to the little chair against the wall to be unobtrusive and observe. I happened to be sitting to 's back. A good five minutes, abruptly twirls to face my direction, comes running at me trilling and stops just inches from me. He flicks his fingers at me, makes a good deal of sounds at me, and holds eye contact for gee, a good minute which is a long time. I decide this is 's greeting and so I respond with a big smile and a cheerful " Hi " . He holds the gaze for a couple long seconds longer and then runs back to his puzzle. Another 2 minutes go by while busily takes letters out and puts them back after examining the holes. He twirls again and takes a running leap into my arms (good thing I have good reflexes, lol). I give him a big hug, to which he arches his back and just hangs from my arms, lovely autie hug. He chirps and trills happily as he hangs from me. Finally I say, " , you need to stand up straight ... so you don't fall. " He straightens and runs back to his puzzle. He plays another minutes before repeating the running hug with a huge smile. I had made a friend. Soon after that 2nd hug, it was time for gym, so I moved on to the 3rd classroom. In the 3rd classroom, I watched 8-9 little boys and girls doing art projects for mother's day. After they cleaned up, the teacher declared it was time to go outside to play. A little white blonde boy went running for the door ... he was clearly eager to go outside. The teacher gently redirected him twice as he tried to open the door to head down the hall ... telling him he must wait until everyone has coats on. Cameron, comes up with a solution to an intolerable wait ... he finds himself a toy train and lays himself on the floor beside my chair, pressing his face against the floor and watches the wheels turn as he slowly rolls the train in front of his face. Ahhh, I have seen this before, I think to myself. Shortly after, the teacher calls to Cameron that it's time to go, and he eagerly gets up to take the teacher's hand for the walk down the hall to the door outside. He pauses for a second after taking the teacher's hand, and then silently reaches his other hand out and takes mine. Clearly, he has just invited me to come to outdoor playtime. I take his hand and stand. The teacher asks me to hold another little girl's hand instead, " If you want to hold a hand, could you hold hers instead? " I tell her, " I didn't take his hand, he took mine " with a smile. But I help out by holding the other little girl's hand instead (teacher told me she was a runner so I gladly helped). Cameron goes off with the teacher and spends outdoor time running around by himself, perfectly happy (of course). But again, it seemed that I had made a friend. It was interesting to me that in two of the three classrooms, the autistic children were somehow drawn to me. Maybe because I understood their attempts to interact and responded positively rather than by withdrawing from strange behavior? But what made them want to interact with me in the first place? I don't know. But those two little boys touched me deeply in such small ways. They are part of the positives that I'll remember from those classroom visits. Jordan has taught me it's the small gestures that show he loves me. My son is very affectionate by nature, so he's not cold to me. But neither is he like my daughter who will say, " Oh Mom, I love you. " His affection is shown in small smiles, his teasing nature, his desire to be cuddled, the fact that he seeks me out when he is upset, and the very rare hug or kiss. Okay, I'm waxing poetic now, so I'll just leave it here. I just needed to share those 2 little boys with all of you. :-) Debbie with twins - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo - (NT) 2.5yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 , I still have to visit the special needs preschool at my local elementary school. I am also waiting to hear if the county will approve a " sensory rich " preschool with a high emphasis on communication and language skills. If they do approve the sensory rich preschool class ... it may be the best choice for Jordan at this point ... I am still talking to the various professionals that deal with Jordan about this proposed class and their thoughts on it. And I don't want to make up my mind on anything until I have seen (or heard about) all the choices available. I visit the elementary school on May 13th. Not sure when the MFE review meeting will be but they are supposed to have it completed by May 16th. I've been warned that the IEP meeting probably won't happen until end of July/beginning of August when the teachers return to work. I'm not quite sure when I have to make a final decision on placement. Debbie with twins - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo - (NT) 2.5yo Re: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet Debbie, that sounds wonderful! Have you picked a school for Jordan yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Debbie, What is MFE? I am still learning all the terms. I keep forgetting that most states are different than Maine in that children become part of the SD at 3. In Maine it is 5. attends a school for just Autistic children. How do you think Jordan and will do with being separated? Hugs Re: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet Debbie, that sounds wonderful! Have you picked a school for Jordan yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 , MFE stands for " Multi Factored Evaluation " ... I'm sorry, I should have written that out. I am *still* learning all the lovely acronyms that go along with school for special needs children. People with older autistic children toss around MFE, IEP, BIP ( " bip " , not b-i-p), PLOP ( " plop " not p-l-o-p) and many more acronyms and slowly slowly I am learning what they all stand for. As for Jordan and being separated, Jordan already goes to Early Intervention preschool twice a week in the mornings. On rare occasions has not wanted to leave him there but 99.9% she's perfectly happy with Mommy-Daughter time. Next year, will be going to regular preschool twice a week ... so she'll have her " own school " . When we visited the preschool, she was so funny ... " Bor ME???? " she kept asking. " Yes, , for you! " " Hooray!!!! " she cheers. She made herself right at home during our visit, so I think she'll be very happy. Jordan ... he doesn't seem to mind separating from ... " she's here, she's not here " it's all the same to him. Or at least, that's how he acts. Debbie with twins - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo - (NT) 2.5yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Debbie, LOL thanks! I know IEP but not the others. But I do feel like I can speak a language that is just for Moms of special needs. Trying to explain something to my MIL and I started with " Well the school finished 's ELAP so now it will be sent to EI at CDS and he will have an EIP. Not sure why it is a EIP instead of a IEP but maybe because its preschool or ABA. He used to have an IFSP " but then I stopped when I noticed that her eyes glossed over and said " the school have set up new skills to work on with " LOL Glad that Jordan and will be fine apart and who knows they may enjoy their time together even more. sounds so sweet and ready for school. Warm Regards & ASD 11/25/00 in Maine RE: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet , MFE stands for " Multi Factored Evaluation " ... I'm sorry, I should have written that out. I am *still* learning all the lovely acronyms that go along with school for special needs children. People with older autistic children toss around MFE, IEP, BIP ( " bip " , not b-i-p), PLOP ( " plop " not p-l-o-p) and many more acronyms and slowly slowly I am learning what they all stand for. As for Jordan and being separated, Jordan already goes to Early Intervention preschool twice a week in the mornings. On rare occasions has not wanted to leave him there but 99.9% she's perfectly happy with Mommy-Daughter time. Next year, will be going to regular preschool twice a week ... so she'll have her " own school " . When we visited the preschool, she was so funny ... " Bor ME???? " she kept asking. " Yes, , for you! " " Hooray!!!! " she cheers. She made herself right at home during our visit, so I think she'll be very happy. Jordan ... he doesn't seem to mind separating from ... " she's here, she's not here " it's all the same to him. Or at least, that's how he acts. Debbie with twins - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo - (NT) 2.5yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Beautiful story Debbie! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 >>>>>>> What is MFE? I am still learning all the terms. I keep forgetting that most states are different than Maine in that children become part of the SD at 3. In Maine it is 5. attends a school for just Autistic children. <<<<<<< Hmmmm...Explain this to me....Federal law mandates a child receive services through the public school system if eligible at age 3. The states can't override that. Pemmu <----hahahahahha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 >>Hmmmm...Explain this to me....Federal law mandates a child receive services through the public school system if eligible at age 3. The states can't override that.<<< Two possibilities: 1) Maine is so backward that the federal Govnt gave up on us? 2) is blonde and may be very confused? I am guessing the answer is #2. I must have misunderstood if that is the federal law. Where would I look to get this information? Thanks for bringing this up, I sure don't want to be giving people wrong information Warm Regards & ASD 11/25/00 in Maine RE: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet >>>>>>> What is MFE? I am still learning all the terms. I keep forgetting that most states are different than Maine in that children become part of the SD at 3. In Maine it is 5. attends a school for just Autistic children. <<<<<<< Hmmmm...Explain this to me....Federal law mandates a child receive services through the public school system if eligible at age 3. The states can't override that. Pemmu <----hahahahahha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 In a message dated 5/2/03 5:25:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jbsmom@... writes: > I am guessing the answer is #2. I must have misunderstood if that is the > federal law. Where would I look to get this information? Thanks for > bringing this up, I sure don't want to be giving people wrong information > He may be part of the school district but you don't know it. Here in PA at age three children revieve services threw the local intermediate unit until they go to kindergarten but those services are paid for by the school district which reimburses said Intermediate Unit. Clear as mud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 IDEA97. You can look it up anywhere on the Internet. Your local ChildFind or whatever they call it up there in the backwoods. (I can say that, I'm from New Hampshire) LOL Now, I know that they are trying to revamp IDEA, so I may be mistaken...but I don't think so. Penny Re: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet >>Hmmmm...Explain this to me....Federal law mandates a child receive services through the public school system if eligible at age 3. The states can't override that.<<< Two possibilities: 1) Maine is so backward that the federal Govnt gave up on us? 2) is blonde and may be very confused? I am guessing the answer is #2. I must have misunderstood if that is the federal law. Where would I look to get this information? Thanks for bringing this up, I sure don't want to be giving people wrong information Warm Regards & ASD 11/25/00 in Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Loved your stories about those two little boys. I wish I could introduce you to Putter and see if he would try to interact with you. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Salli, I wish I could meet Putter too. Debbie with twins - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo - (NT) 2.5yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 > Salli, I wish I could meet Putter too. > I think he'd ignore you. But, from your story, maybe not. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 >> Salli, I wish I could meet Putter too. >> >I think he'd ignore you. But, from your story, maybe not. > >Salli Maybe he would Salli, but I wouldn't take it personally. And I still wish I could meet Putter. Debbie with twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Putter would fit in so well with some of my kids. Georga Visit my new web page at www.ubahbookshelf.com This tag line space for rent. RE: Visiting Preschools ... or ... The Autie Magnet > Salli, I wish I could meet Putter too. > > Debbie with twins > - Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo > - (NT) 2.5yo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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