RE: Re: Diagnos Test Results - Please help w/ Recommdations

[Guest guest]

>> Current Symptoms: Insomnia, high anxiety, depression

>> Diagnos-Techs Results

>> 7am 17/normal 13-24nM

>> 11am 6/Normal 5-10nM

>> 4pm 2/Depressed 3-8nM

>> 11pm 5/Elevated 1-4nM

>> Cortisol Burden 30 23-42 ref

>>

>> DHEA 2 depressed 3-10ng/ml reference

>>

>> Estradiol 13

>> Progesterone >1000

>> Free Testosterone 17 normal

>>

>> Next Step? Isocort (ramp up to 8 pellets) for 6 months until stable?

>> Continue

> progesterone creme 2x/day? Add DHEA approx. 6 months later? Already take

> many

> vitamin suppliments, 5-HTP, etc.

> Those sex hormone scores are saliva too? You're overdosing on

> progesterone.

Progesterone will appear fasley high on saliva test and you should not read

into it that you are overdosing.

> JMO, but I would not take the Isocort at this time, but focus on other

> adrenal supporting

> supplements (Vit. C, B5, B6, etc.), and other lifestyle changes. The

> Isocort might raise your

> cortisol further and aggravate your insomnia.

I find that a protein snack plus 1 isocort helps me sleep. two iscocort

interfere with my sleep.

Jeffries often advises 2.5mg of cortisol at bedtime. It will be a trial and

error test.

> That high progesterone needs to be addressed ASAP, IMO. That can be the

> root of a lot of

> problems.

I'm not sure this is a problem. It will always appear very high from the

cream.

I would say you do need DHEA.

> Another option is to do further sex hormone testing from Diagnos-Techs to

> see what your

> hormones are doing over your cycle. There is an 11-vial female hormone

> panel taken over

> 30-45 days. You'll need competent help to get accurate results while on

> the P cream.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

>> Progesterone will appear fasley high on saliva test and you should not

>> read

>> into it that you are overdosing.

> Dean, I disagree!

>

>

Hi ,

Can you explain why?

When I sent tests to DiagnosTech's, their endocrinologists explained to me

that using progesterone will false elevate progesterone on saliva tests.

He said there where many studies to show this. Before I look for them, I'd

like to know your take on it?

Thanks,

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

Hi and Dean-

I don't know the " why " either, but I just got the results of my

Diagnos-Techs (Canary Club) saliva test. Relating to progesterone, their

test result form says:

Postmenopause-No HRT: 1-4 pg/ml

HRT Target Range: 100-300 pg/ml

Mine came out >1000. I believe I can safely assume that value is too high.

Since they refer to a range with HRT, it appears that they allow for some

differences when using progesterone replacement. Maybe the endocrinologist's

comment relates to the fact that they allow the readings to be so much

higher when using HRT.

Another interesting factor I recently read about is that apparently

progesterone USP (bio-identical) does not cascade as does progesterone

produced in the body. Perhaps that explains why progesterone can build up

when using supplemental hormone. Here's the article link:

http://www.greenwillowtree.com/Page.bok?file=wildyam.html

Best,

Dana

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From: frequent-dose-chelation

[mailto:frequent-dose-chelation ] On Behalf Of mmc2315

> Hi ,

> Can you explain why?

> When I sent tests to DiagnosTech's, their endocrinologists explained to me

> that using progesterone will false elevate progesterone on saliva tests.

> He said there where many studies to show this. Before I look for them, I'd

> like to know your take on it?

> Thanks,

> DeanSA

>

Nope, can't explain why.

[Guest guest]

>

> Nope, can't explain why. I currently read a hormone list where

> there is often talk of

> monitoring hormones levels via saliva while on hormones. Meaning, you can

> test cortisol

> levels while taking HC, and monitor thyroid while on thyroid, and monitor

> progesterone (or

> any other sex hormones) while on those hormones.

Mi ,

The endocrinologist at Diagnostech said that you should be off TOPICAL

progesterone for 6-8 weeks, because,

" Topical progesterone is very famous for causing a significant elevation in

salivary progesterone level which does not necessarily correlate with other

tissue level " .

DeanSA