Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Just another idea that might help: Get a CBC and see whether you're anemic. I have your symptoms, too. Figured I was adrenal fatigued. All my symptoms fit that. Then a holistic dentist had me do a CBC that he has all his patients do first. Surprise!! I'm terribly anemic. Check Ferritin (storage iron) along with serum iron and the rest of the blood panel. My Ferritin is <1 when it should be 70-90! I may still be hypoadrenal, but anemia has a lot of symptoms in common with hypoadrenal symptoms, including fatigue, loss of stamina, muscle weakness, depression, memory loss. I'm going to town on my iron levels pronto, and I'll bet it finally starts to make me feel better. After the 2nd day of treatment, I've already noticed a significant difference in mood, motivation and energy. Just something to look into. Wish my regular doctor had thought to order a CBC months ago. Then I probably wouldn't be suffereing for so many months. Cheap tactic: go to the Red Cross to donate blood. Before they let you donate, they prick your finger and put one drop of your blood in some kind of solution. If it sinks, your not anemic. If it floats, you are, and they'll turn you away. Then you could see if it warrants a CBC after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I recently re-read Dr. Lam's excellent long article on Adrenal Fatigue. He said that those with adrenal fatigue will need hormone supplementation of other sex hormones like DHEA, estradiol and progesterone, but not until the adrenals are stabilized first w/ cortisol. Abrenica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 > Progesterone will appear fasley high on saliva test and you should not read > into it that you are overdosing. Dean, I disagree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 > Hi , > Can you explain why? > When I sent tests to DiagnosTech's, their endocrinologists explained to me > that using progesterone will false elevate progesterone on saliva tests. > He said there where many studies to show this. Before I look for them, I'd > like to know your take on it? > Thanks, > DeanSA > Nope, can't explain why. I currently read a hormone list where there is often talk of monitoring hormones levels via saliva while on hormones. Meaning, you can test cortisol levels while taking HC, and monitor thyroid while on thyroid, and monitor progesterone (or any other sex hormones) while on those hormones. My limited understanding is that very, very often the tests are not taken properly and the results are invalid. Time of day, timing of sample relative to taking a hormone can make all the difference. If you get ahold of someone at Diagnos-Techs, I'd be interested in what they tell you about how to monitor the levels of a hormone while you are currently taking it. Otherwises, what's the point? You don't know where you're at. You don't know if you're taking too much, or too little. I'd be careful with DHEA supplementation too, as it is upstream from T and E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Posted by: " jennifer.robinsong " jennifer.robinsong@... jennifer.robinsong Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:19 pm (PDT) >Just another idea that might help: >Get a CBC and see whether you're anemic. >I have your symptoms, too. Figured I was adrenal fatigued. All my symptoms fit >that. Then >a holistic dentist had me do a CBC that he has all his patients do first. >Surprise!! I'm >terribly anemic. Check Ferritin (storage iron) along with serum iron and the >rest of the >blood panel. My Ferritin is <1 when it should be 70-90! Their norms are too high. It should be 30-70. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hm. Well, he seems to have changed his mind since AI. Generally, he is more conservative early on, and then gets closer to what he thinks is best as time goes on. In his seminar, he says that below 30 you should consider supplementation or using vitamin c with meals/ using drippings from meat, etc. He says that 40-70 is ideal. (And yes, I'm looking at his seminar material, here.) Dave. --------------- Posted by: " jennifer.robinsong " jennifer.robinsong@... jennifer.robinsong Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:09 pm (PDT) The 70-90 range is not from the lab. It's from Andy Cutler in Amalgam illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 - thanks, but it should be ng/ml we're both talking about . Dave. -------- Posted by: " " lindajaytee@... lindajaytee Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:12 pm (PDT) The difference could be in the units. I haven't been following this thread, but no units are given in these posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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