Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi Colette, My understanding is that a normal cycle for cortisol is to start out high in the morning and then decline throughout the day. When I was sick I had a normal cycle but my levels were well below the normal ranges, particularly in the morning. I had the same symptoms, and also wished someone would give me cortisol, which never happened. Although your numbers are on the low end, it does seem like they are still within the reference ranges. In retrospect I am glad I toughed it out without supplementing cortisol, because there can be complications to getting off of it, and in the end I got better (18 months after amalgam removal and 6 months after beginning chelation.) Good luck, Dave --- cann7899 wrote: > hi everyone, > > Background...23 rounds, ALA and DMSA. Frequent > dose. Getting better > slowly. A few things I have noticed. I always feel > worse the first > 1/2 of my cycle and feel better the second 1/2. > This has been > documented for months. > > Also I am tired in the afternoon. Don't seem to > have much energy for > more than the basics with a little bit of work. I > did an adrenal > panel two years ago and I start my day fairly normal > and then plummet > through the morning to the afternoon where I am at > the low end of the > range. > > I am on adrenal extracts- can't do licorice. Want > to try cortisol > but can't seem to get it yet...here are my test > results. Any > comments or insights would be welcome. > > DHEAS........9.3 .........3.0-11.0 within range for > age > Cortisol am 8.9 .........2.0-11.0 > noon cort 1.5 .........1.0-7.0 low end of range > dinner cort 0.6 .........0.5-3.5 low end of range > bedtime 0.7 .........0.2-1.3 > > > Should I be pushing for cortisol? Should I continue > chelating with > these results? Anybody with some experience with > this? > > thanks in advance > Colette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 These are saliva results? You start out the day not bad, then start to crash. How is your diet? Do you skip a lot of meals? Are you eating frequently with adequate protein and fat? Have you ever been tested for gluten intolerance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 > > These are saliva results? ==yes > > You start out the day not bad, then start to crash. How is your diet? ===i eat no prepared foods, organic low sulfur, protein at all meals small meals through out the day (8 am 11:30, 3pm 6pm)with hits of protein for hypoglycemia. Do you skip a lot of > meals? =====never Are you eating frequently with adequate protein and fat? ===good protein with good fats, organic olive oil and butter. > > Have you ever been tested for gluten intolerance? ===yes about 8 months ago. as with many mercury folks my test came back fine. Good questions. Thank you! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 > > Have you ever been tested for gluten intolerance? > > ===yes about 8 months ago. as with many mercury folks my test came > back fine. How were you tested? Certain methods have high false-negative rates. KerryAnn http://www.cookingtf.com/ - American and Australian TF Menu Mailers http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - Traditional Foods forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 > > > > Have you ever been tested for gluten intolerance? > > > > ===yes about 8 months ago. as with many mercury folks my test came > > back fine. > > How were you tested? Certain methods have high false-negative rates. Good question KerryAnn, It was initially a blood test, then I had to drink a really sweet drink, wait and hour and then they took blood. What are the best test for glucose? The saliva test I did was 4 point cortisol. Colette > > KerryAnn > http://www.cookingtf.com/ - American and Australian TF Menu Mailers > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - Traditional Foods forum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 hi the glucose test is a glucose toleranace test and they often take insulin levels at the same time can be done at any hospital lab in the us and u need an md rx for it... the test usually takes a few hours unless like me the first time they had to stop early ... the second glucose tolearnce test i took showed i was prediabetic and now am a diabetic . but prediabetic doesnt gurantee u progress to full diabetic. if a women has gestiional diabetes( diabetes of pregnancy) than they have a higher risk of becoming a diabetic later in life. somish----- Original Message -----From: cann7899 Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:08 pmSubject: Re: AdrenalsTo: frequent-dose-chelation > > >> > > > Have you ever been tested for gluten intolerance?> > > > > > ===yes about 8 months ago. as with many mercury folks my > test came> > > back fine.> > > > How were you tested? Certain methods have high false-negative > rates.> Good question KerryAnn, It was initially a blood test, then I > had to > drink a really sweet drink, wait and hour and then they took blood.> > What are the best test for glucose? The saliva test I did was 4 > point > cortisol.> Colette> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 If you did this test 2 years ago and have thus been chelating since...it's likely your adrenal state has changed. Chelating is stressful to the adrenals and this is when the true adrenal fatigue rears it's ugly head. 23 rounds is about when my son had to be put on adrenal cortex, because his adrenal symptoms became obvious. After personally using HC and adrenal cortex..honestly..I'd try the natural cortex first. IF you see nothing good with it..then retest to see if you really need HC. My dd's saliva was worse than this and she is managing on adrenal cortex. I have been using the HC, but have had issues getting the dose right, and side effects like weight gain that I don't care for. Not to mention getting the stuff..it's not easy to convince a doctor to give it you unless you have terrible cortisol levels. Even then...if you're not Addison's..they don't want to give it, which makes " finding it on your own a hassle " . So you'd want to be absolutely sure you need it. You can try adrenal cortex, Isocort (it's OTC too), Ashwaghanda, Adreset by Metagenics, CorticoB5,B6, taking b complex a few times a day...there are probably more things I forgot that help adrenals function better. > > hi everyone, > > Background...23 rounds, ALA and DMSA. Frequent dose. Getting better > slowly. A few things I have noticed. I always feel worse the first > 1/2 of my cycle and feel better the second 1/2. This has been > documented for months. > > Also I am tired in the afternoon. Don't seem to have much energy for > more than the basics with a little bit of work. I did an adrenal > panel two years ago and I start my day fairly normal and then plummet > through the morning to the afternoon where I am at the low end of the > range. > > I am on adrenal extracts- can't do licorice. Want to try cortisol > but can't seem to get it yet...here are my test results. Any > comments or insights would be welcome. > > DHEAS........9.3 .........3.0-11.0 within range for age > Cortisol am 8.9 .........2.0-11.0 > noon cort 1.5 .........1.0-7.0 low end of range > dinner cort 0.6 .........0.5-3.5 low end of range > bedtime 0.7 .........0.2-1.3 > > > Should I be pushing for cortisol? Should I continue chelating with > these results? Anybody with some experience with this? > > thanks in advance > Colette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I will assume this recent test was done while not on adrenal cortex. Having been off of it for two weeks before testing. =====Actually I was still on my adrenal cortex. Which makes me concerned. It is either doing nothing or my body is really having problems. Your correct with > the Isocort and adrenal cortex information. It makes a world of > difference when you say your already on it. In canada we can't get Isocort. For some people, they do > need HC. On the adrenal board they would probably tell you to try to > extend your own cortisol with licorice. But I think you said you were > not able to take that. ===no I have a fast phase one liver so no licorice. So then you'd try other herbal and vitamin > support. Any way to get a ACTH stim test? To be sure your adrenal > fatigue is not caused by pituitary? ====I can ask for the test. Good idea, thank you. > It's probably not, or you'd have a lot of other hormone problems, but > they usually advise you rule out a pituitary problem before using HC. > Because this will tell you if you need to take it forever or just for > a while. > Are you using celtic sea salt daily too? ===no, i use sea salt as regular salt but don't take it in a glass of water in the morning. > There is no thyroid problem right? That will cause these afternoon > crashes too and will stress the adrenals further. ===no thyroid problems that i am aware of, my test came back normal and i believe well in range > For me I need a bit of HC and adrenal cortex. However, in > hindsight...I'd like to be off the HC and am working towards that so I > can get some testing done. It helps my adrenal symptoms but not my > weight! Before going on it, you have to be sure your going to be able > to get it regularly..you can't run out. It's one of those things that > needs to be weaned off of. There is always hydrocortisone cream. As in > Andy's book this can be used in place of HC pills. ===Thank you Jada. I am going to try and get another test. I also wonder about doing more saliva testing off my ACE. I see my ND next week and wanted to have some informtion and done some thinking about this issue before I saw her. Colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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