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Hi Jada !

I am not sure if this helps...but your weight is already pre-existing...you

did not become overweight overnight...you've had this problem, and they will

see this when you give them the copies of your medical records...so it may

not be a problem.

I dont know..cuz i'm not an expert there..but I was just thinking maybe you

might not have a problem, because, it would be like if you were pregnant

and went to the doctor and then changed insurance companies...this is quite

different.

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>To: <MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com>

>Subject: HELP

>Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:11:51 -0400

>

>Hey everybody,

>

> My name is Jada Munn and I have been a member of this site for almost

>a week. I am hoping to have the MGB soon but I am having some trouble. I

>have ran into a problem with my insurance company MAMSI. They have denied

>me twice and in the exclusions of my policy it clearly states that it does

>not pay for morbid obesity treatment. I have already gone to my clinic

>appointment and I am beginning to think that was a bad mistake. If I

>change insurance companies I will have to tell them of the visit with Dr. R

>and that will be a pre-existing condition. If I don't tell them then when

>I ask for approval for the MGB they will look at my past medical

>appointments and find that visit. Then I will have insurance fraud on my

>hands! I don't want to wait the pre-existing time period with a new

>insurance co. because I am in school now and I will not miss any work if I

>had it done over one of my breaks. Also, I want to have it soon so I can

>be experiencing the wonderful things most of you already are. (not to

>mention my health) Should I try to get a lawyer like Dr. R suggested even

>though it clearly states in my policy? Does anyone know a lawyer who would

>represent this case? I have considered being a self pay but I am afraid of

>complications that may arise. Please someone offer me some advice!!

>

>Jada

>BMI 52

>25 years old

>Goldsboro, NC

>

>

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In a message dated 8/11/00 5:33:03 PM Central Daylight Time,

dmalony@... writes:

<< I thought there was a new law about no longer being able to deny

people for pre-existing conditions. I do not claim to up on politics

and law. Maybe it has just been proposed, but I know I have heard

about it. >>

I am not sure if it is law, but I do know that my insurance (BCBS) doesn't

not have a clause about pre-existing conditions. I have asthma, and I have

gotten my asthma medicine paid for from the day I got the insurance, no

questions asked. (Actually, the same was true for Prudential and Travelers

that we've had in the past... I think that most group insurance will pay,

maybe private policies won't)

Hope this helps!

Deb in IL

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> Hey everybody,

>

If I change insurance companies I will have to tell them of the

visit with Dr. R and that will be a pre-existing condition. If I

don't tell them then when I ask for approval for the MGB they will

look at my past medical appointments and find that visit.

I never thought of this as a pre-existing condition. I have been

denied by Cigna and will probably have to change when my insurance

elections come up in November. If this is considered a pre-existing

condition, does that mean even if I change I still won't be able to

get this surgery? I feel so helpless I am getting more depressed

over this by the day. Thanks for anyone's input. Did anyone else

have to change insurance?

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I thought there was a new law about no longer being able to deny

people for pre-existing conditions. I do not claim to up on politics

and law. Maybe it has just been proposed, but I know I have heard

about it.

Anyone else-

Laurie in Ohio

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http://www.clos.net/preop_meds.htm

kadbsn@... wrote:

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> Hi everyone...I am trying to finish up my packet and was trying to

> find a

> complete list of pre-op meds ...can anyone tell me where I could find

> this at

>

> Thanks Kendra in WV

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The ladies at the office prefer you to use Federal Express. That way if it

is lost they can track it.

With Love,

Lara M. Akin (BMI 61)

Getting my weight down

to do the dance with Dr. Rutledge.

423/417/413

Waist 51/46

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> Today is my third week anniversary post-op. I am doing really well

> as far as no nausea, pain, or any discomfort at all. However, I am

> not losing. I haven't lost an ounce in over a week and 1/2. My

> typical diet is maybe 1/2 banana on my way to work, 1/3 cup of

yogurt

> around 10:00, 1/2 cup soup or mac and cheese at lunch, and maybe a

> handfull of oyster crackers in the afternoon, and yogurt or 1/2

baked

> potato at dinner. Am I eating too much? Yesterday, I had a

meeting

> after work and didn't have anything to eat, so I ate 4 bites of a

> happy meal burger. Is this bad? What is everyone else eating?

> What's wrong with me?

> Kay

Hi Kay,

You didn't say how much you had lost already, but my advice is don't

let what is on the scales control your life. You don't have to diet,

the weight will come off. Don't put yourself back in that prison.

It's hard to break out of that old diet mentality but just

concentrate on eating healthy. My goal after surgery was to get back

to eating as normally as possible and if it takes 1 year or 2 years

to lose this weight, that's okay, as long as I'm heading in the right

direction. Nothing is wrong with you. Each of us are individuals and

we will all have different experiences and varying results. Throw the

scales out and concentrate on life. Best of luck to you and hang in

there.

Suzanne

MGB 7/17/00

25 lbs gone forever

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Dear Jo, grocery stores sometimes have candy but I usually get mine from the

drug store. They have a great suletion, even chocolate. Granted they don't

taste as good as the " old " ones but after awile you forget that the old ones

tasted like....Sue M

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thanks, much

Re: help

>Dear Jo, grocery stores sometimes have candy but I usually get mine from

the

>drug store. They have a great suletion, even chocolate. Granted they don't

>taste as good as the " old " ones but after awile you forget that the old

ones

>tasted like....Sue M

>

>

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BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR

PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND

TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

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Susiecue, You will be in my thought on Monday. You will probably be on of

the fortunate ones who just breezes through it. I hope the swelling goes

down quickly. Please let us know how you are doing. I hope you are getting

this post. LOL Hope I signed you back up and everything is okay.

Have a wonderful Easter.

hugs

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HI Jen!

I too have pancreas divisum: was diagnosed last fall after having

problems since july 2000. What triggered my pancreatitis is a

surgery that I had that month. Most people with PD usually do

not have any problem with it. But there is a small percentage of

us that do. This diagnosis is very controversial as many

physicians think that the divisum is just an interesting

anatomical anomaly, but does not cause disease. But it is

obvious from what you describe that you fall into that category of

symptomatic PD, like me!

As far as treatment: if you get to a very experience endoscopist

he / she will most likely be able to access your duct. They may

opt to do a papillotomy first (cuts the opening of the duct) and

then put the stent in after doing an ERP to check for signs of

chronic pancreatitis. That is what they did for me - my papilla

was so small and tight that he had to cut it first to do any of the

diagnostics, then he did the stent (the smallest that they had). I

also had endoscopic ultrasound done too, which theoretically is

more sensitive than the ERP to find changes of CP. Some docs

will want to do a series of stents - have you go in for a new stent

every 6 weeks or so for a total of 3 stents. Again, theoretically

this is suppose to stretch the duct enough to give you pain relief.

Unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way - if you do not get

much relief from the first stent, they are reluctant to go on,

thinking that they are not treating the right thing. It is also

important to understand that stenting is also very controversial

as some doctors absolutely believe that the stent causes more

harm than good. But when I had to make the decision I realized

that I was not able to go on as I was and that it was worth the risk

to go in. Happily it cured the immediate problem but has not

cured the ongoing one (the chronic pancreatitis). In my case, I

was proably obstructed too long before I was diagnosed so my

pancreas has been damaged permenantly. But the good news

is if it is found early enough (which in your case sounds like it!)

this can be very successfully treated!

Don't give up - go to the second opinion guy, ask questions do

research, talk to us and if you go through with it realize that the

first procedure is the worst and it gets easier after that (hopefully,

I am being optimistic here). But that it may take a few weeks to

recover completely from each stent placement. So if you do not

feel well at first, don't think that it didn't work! Also be persistent

and be clear about the pain being interferring with your life! Also

ask about getting referred to a pain clinic and what the long term

outlook will be - that is, if stents are not an option, or they end up

not helping you, make sure that you ask what happens then. Is

there a plan " B " .

Anyways, as you can see I have strong opinions about this

disease and lots of recent relevant experience. If you would like

to talk to me more feel free to email me at

goutbuster@.... It will be my way of passing on the

kindness that I received from this group since I first joined.

Laurie

(I also have about a 80 references big database on almost

everything you want to know about pancreas divisum,. pain

control, acute pancreatitis and chronic pancreatitis. I am happy to

share any of these with you - Just ask ! she has been

inundated with my attachments! my philosophy is that

knowledge is power!)

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> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 6:43:34 -0700

> From:

> To: Pecanbread@...

> Subject: Help

>

>

> I have ordered the almond flour all ground up from the net and am finding that

I have to throw out batches due to the inside not cooking. The consistency of

the batter is different and I need to make adjustments from the recipe in the

book.

> Has anyone else had this problem and how did you adjust the batter? Thanks.

> Rainlady's mom

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> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 6:43:34 -0700

> From:

> To: Pecanbread@...

> Subject: Help

>

>

> I have ordered the almond flour all ground up from the net and am finding that

I have to throw out batches due to the inside not cooking. The consistency of

the batter is different and I need to make adjustments from the recipe in the

book.

> Has anyone else had this problem and how did you adjust the batter? Thanks.

> Rainlady's mom

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Hi Rainladys' mom,

I get eggs from a friend's hens so the size varies, which in turn makes some

batters wetter. If the batter is wetter than normal I add a little more nut

flour.

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

>

>

> I have ordered the almond flour all ground up from the net and am finding that

I have to throw out batches due to the inside not cooking. The consistency of

the batter is different and I need to make adjustments from the recipe in the

book.

> Has anyone else had this problem and how did you adjust the batter? Thanks.

> Rainlady's mom

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>

> hi new here. going to start our family on this new diet. two older

> boys, 7 and 3 have autism. we have a baby too that has an ear

> infection, but I refuse to use antibiotics. anyways, the only thing

> that bothers me is the no milk thing. they drink rice milk right now

> or Vance's potato based milk. these are both a big fat NO right? and

> almond milk cannot be used right away? Also, what brand of almond milk

> could be used? I notice the ones I have seen have rice syrup in them.

> is there a list like they have for a GFCF diet of everyday products

> that can be used? Like brands. Like we can use Prego spag. sauce-it is

> GFCF. I'm sure they add sugar so it would be illegal, but I was just

> using that for an example. ANy help as far as how to get started would

> be helpful-A

>

Commercial nut milks cannot be used. We make our own. Here is the recipe:

NUT MILK

by Marjan

100 grams of whole blanched hazelnuts, almonds or pecans (gives brownish milk)

1 litre of water

a small pinch of salt

optional: 1 tbsp of clear honey

Put ingredients in blender and spin for about 10 minutes.

Pour through a fine sieve.

Squeeze out residue with the back of a spoon or squeeze out in a tea towel.

Freeze residue (this is in fact very fine nut flour) and use for baking

purposes.

Store in the fridge.

Use withing 2-3 days.

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You're not going to have a whole lot of choices for the intro diet. Someone

else may have some other suggestions, but I have not found that there are

prepared foods that are scd legal. You can find a " legal " list of foods on

the Breaking the Vicious Cycle web site. Be prepared that you're going to

need to make your own apple or pear sauce for the diet, your own tomato

sauce, ect. It can be overwhelming at first, but it's well worth the work

of figuring it all out. Many people do introduce dairy a good month or long

after beginning, but most use goat milk for their yogurt and goat cheeses.

Personally, we switched from goat to cow for our son, and we've seen no

problems. We're 3 1/2 months into the diet now. We have lots of frozen

carrots for cooking, bananas, applesauce, chicken, and ground beef on hand.

Especially in the first month. You'll also want to have the green beans

around...my son just doesn't like them. Also, Welch's 100% grape juice is

legal. Just make sure to dilute it. As I said, just keep at it even when

you begin to feel overwhelmed. This group is a great help.

Meleah

scd 05/06

iel 3yrs., asd

Ethan 5yrs., Mark 1yr.

help

> hi new here. going to start our family on this new diet. two older

> boys, 7 and 3 have autism. we have a baby too that has an ear

> infection, but I refuse to use antibiotics. anyways, the only thing

> that bothers me is the no milk thing. they drink rice milk right now

> or Vance's potato based milk. these are both a big fat NO right? and

> almond milk cannot be used right away? Also, what brand of almond milk

> could be used? I notice the ones I have seen have rice syrup in them.

> is there a list like they have for a GFCF diet of everyday products

> that can be used? Like brands. Like we can use Prego spag. sauce-it is

> GFCF. I'm sure they add sugar so it would be illegal, but I was just

> using that for an example. ANy help as far as how to get started would

> be helpful-A

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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You're not going to have a whole lot of choices for the intro diet. Someone

else may have some other suggestions, but I have not found that there are

prepared foods that are scd legal. You can find a " legal " list of foods on

the Breaking the Vicious Cycle web site. Be prepared that you're going to

need to make your own apple or pear sauce for the diet, your own tomato

sauce, ect. It can be overwhelming at first, but it's well worth the work

of figuring it all out. Many people do introduce dairy a good month or long

after beginning, but most use goat milk for their yogurt and goat cheeses.

Personally, we switched from goat to cow for our son, and we've seen no

problems. We're 3 1/2 months into the diet now. We have lots of frozen

carrots for cooking, bananas, applesauce, chicken, and ground beef on hand.

Especially in the first month. You'll also want to have the green beans

around...my son just doesn't like them. Also, Welch's 100% grape juice is

legal. Just make sure to dilute it. As I said, just keep at it even when

you begin to feel overwhelmed. This group is a great help.

Meleah

scd 05/06

iel 3yrs., asd

Ethan 5yrs., Mark 1yr.

help

> hi new here. going to start our family on this new diet. two older

> boys, 7 and 3 have autism. we have a baby too that has an ear

> infection, but I refuse to use antibiotics. anyways, the only thing

> that bothers me is the no milk thing. they drink rice milk right now

> or Vance's potato based milk. these are both a big fat NO right? and

> almond milk cannot be used right away? Also, what brand of almond milk

> could be used? I notice the ones I have seen have rice syrup in them.

> is there a list like they have for a GFCF diet of everyday products

> that can be used? Like brands. Like we can use Prego spag. sauce-it is

> GFCF. I'm sure they add sugar so it would be illegal, but I was just

> using that for an example. ANy help as far as how to get started would

> be helpful-A

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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I am a Lurker,have been for a year and a half, sorry I don't post but I do read

almost everyday. I have learned a lot from all of you. I used to have a oximeter

(my Granddaughters bit off the button to turn it on) I have UIP I am not on 02

yet. I used to check my sats and I have told my Pulmodude about my sats dropping

into the 80s when walking or doing things around house. He didn't believe me

because my 6mw test is in the low 90s. Well I finially got my Dr to perscribe

Pulminary Rehab. My question for all of you is this, I have been going to PR

for 3 weeks already, this week I did 15 min on treadmill the whole time I have

the thing on my finger to check my sats and they were never over 89. Then I did

15min on the Nustep when I was done my sats were only 83, then I did the stair

steps, I did 1min 40sec and dropped to 79. Should I call my Dr and tell him all

of this or should I just wait until I am done with PR and have them send the

report to my Dr. I would really like some help with this.

Jo Ann 53, UIP 9/07

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joann

have the PR send a report to the doc immediately and

call him to let him know what is happening

if you can get a copy of the report, hand deliver it to your doc

my 6 min walk can be very decieving --

it is on a flat surface in a controlled environment

put me on steps and watch the SAT drop--

there are no steps when i do the 6 min walk plus...

i don't talk

in the beginning, i couldn't walk and talk at the same time -- my sat would drop quickly

this was before O2

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

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Subject: HelpTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 7:34 AM

I am a Lurker,have been for a year and a half, sorry I don't post but I do read almost everyday. I have learned a lot from all of you. I used to have a oximeter (my Granddaughters bit off the button to turn it on) I have UIP I am not on 02 yet. I used to check my sats and I have told my Pulmodude about my sats dropping into the 80s when walking or doing things around house. He didn't believe me because my 6mw test is in the low 90s. Well I finially got my Dr to perscribe Pulminary Rehab. My question for all of you is this, I have been going to PR for 3 weeks already, this week I did 15 min on treadmill the whole time I have the thing on my finger to check my sats and they were never over 89. Then I did 15min on the Nustep when I was done my sats were only 83, then I did the stair steps, I did 1min 40sec and dropped to 79. Should I call my Dr and tell him all of this or should I just wait until I am done with PR and have them send the report to my

Dr. I would really like some help with this.Jo Ann 53, UIP 9/07

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Hi Jo Ann and welcome! I'm glad you decided to post. It must be immensely frustrating to have your pulmonologist not believe you when you tell him your sats are dropping. Why on earth would you make that up? Sometimes a 6MW is over valued by doctors. It's usefulness is limited because it doesn't give you any information about how your sats react when you do your normal daily activities. Walking up a flight of stairs, folding a load of laundry, taking a shower etc.

When I went to rehab 3 years ago, if a patients sats dropped as you describe yours, the therpists would have put in a call to the physician to get an order for oxygen. I would assume that's not happening in your case. Have you asked anyone at rehab about whether they think you need oxygen? Sats dropping to 79 is cause for action on their part. And yes, if they are not calling your doctor, you most certainly should. He has to believe what's happening at rehab as it's documented by a third party.

Have you given any thought to switching pulmonologists or to seeking a second opinion? I'm uncomfortable with what you are describing. You don't say where you are but if you haven't already done so I would strongly suggest you seek out a university medical center with specialists in interstitial lung disease. You can start here, www.ipfnet.org but there are others. As you know we have members all over the place so let us know where you are if you want suggestions.

Please continue to post, I'm glad you are here!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:34:01 AMSubject: Help

I am a Lurker,have been for a year and a half, sorry I don't post but I do read almost everyday. I have learned a lot from all of you. I used to have a oximeter (my Granddaughters bit off the button to turn it on) I have UIP I am not on 02 yet. I used to check my sats and I have told my Pulmodude about my sats dropping into the 80s when walking or doing things around house. He didn't believe me because my 6mw test is in the low 90s. Well I finially got my Dr to perscribe Pulminary Rehab. My question for all of you is this, I have been going to PR for 3 weeks already, this week I did 15 min on treadmill the whole time I have the thing on my finger to check my sats and they were never over 89. Then I did 15min on the Nustep when I was done my sats were only 83, then I did the stair steps, I did 1min 40sec and dropped to 79. Should I call my Dr and tell him all of this or should I just wait until I am done with PR and have them send the report to my Dr.

I would really like some help with this.Jo Ann 53, UIP 9/07

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