Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Andy and This subject line of this post has been changed. It used to be " Re: a few questions from a beginner. " > > On page 34 Andy says that " figures 5 and 6 show the steroid hormones > that are made by your adrenal glands and gonads " . Note that > progesterone is in the GONAD box. The ovaries secrete progesterone, > the corpus luteum secretes progesterone. > -----------I know that the corpus luteum secretes progesterone. Yes, I have noted that progesterone is in the Gonad box. Please note that it is in TWO OVERLAPPING boxes: the Gonad box, and the Adrenal box. Progesterone is produced in more than one place in the body. Page 34 of Andy's book corroborates with that fact. Also, on page 114 of AI, Andy writes that one of the " signs that something is wrong with the pituitary is menstrual cycles without ovulation and low-end LH and FSH surges " (first column on page 114), as well as " irregular menstrual cycles or cycles of unusual length or shortness. " In my case, I've got all but one of those. My lack-luster thermal shift (again, shown by my basal body termperature failing to rise by at least four-tenths to one full degree at the time of ovulation indicate a low-end LH and FSH surge. My menstrual cycle is definitely irregular (Andy was not correct to assume that it is regular), and it is most certainly of unusual shortness and has been for at least a year, consistently. I really don't understand why my comments on this topic are being taken as if I'm saying something off-kilter (for lack of better word-selection:). I'm trying to show you how the hormone interactions and changes due to amalgam illness described page 34 and page 114 and page ____ of Andy's book AI actually are very much in agreement with what I'm experiencing and describing here. Andy himself even says in AI (very frustrating that I can't find that quote in my copy of the book right now--I'll have to search more later and post the quote and page number when I do find it) that one of the symptoms is for women to have difficulty conceiving! That is most certainly a symptom of Amalgam Illness that I am experiencing. So why is he acting now like everything I'm saying is bogus? It's all in your book, Andy! You even give a book in your list of " Useful Books, " listed on page 173, entitled " Infertility and Birth Defects---Is Mercury from Silver Dental Fillings a Hidden Cause? " by Ziff. So why do you seem to be skeptical at my claim of infertility? My point, which I don't appear to be communicating in a very understandable way, is that when my thermal shift is not occurring (like in the last 2 cycles for me), that indicates that the LH/FSH surge was not strong enough for ovulation to occur, which would pretty much make it hard for the corpus luteum to produce progesterone . . . if the FSH/LH surge was insufficient to select a follicle for ovulation in the first place. When I have no thermal shift on day 14 or 15, then I know my LH/FSH surge was too weak to produce ovulation. No ovulation means corpus luteum, which means no progesterone. Well, I'm not looking to Andy or this webgroup for a source of confirmation that I'm experiencing infertility. I have already been intimitely acquainted with that fact long before I ordered AI. Then, upon reading AI, I found a number of enlightening facts that are helping to explain the background causes of my infertility. Andy just wrote a response to my February comments on this forum about my hypoadrenal symptoms and connected hormonal issues related to infertility , so I've just been trying to clarify to Andy what my experience has been in this area. > There are many other hormones involved in reproduction besides just > progesterone. > > If fertilization occurs the developing embryo secretes a hormone that > maintains the corpus luteum. ------------- I know that there are many other hormones involved in reproduction besides just progesterone, but my lack of thermal shift and lack of sustained increase in temperature during my luteal phase indicate my lack of progesterone. A lack of progesterone makes acheiving pregnancy impossible. If fertilzation occurs, the developing embryo (the newly developing placenta, actually) takes over progesterone production from the corpus luteum, which fades away as the fetus begins to develop. As the placenta grows, the levels of progesterone increase enormously throughout the pregnancy. In fact, if progesterone doesn't increase enormously, miscarriage can occur. Progesterone, among other things, keeps the baby in the womb. These are some of the reasons I said that progesterone is THE pregnancy hormone. > > > If you think that is happening to you why not check the theory out > with a doctor. ----------I am. It has been very difficult to find a doctor who won't scoff at my claim that I have hypoadrenal symptoms, but I have a doctor's appointment today with an Osteopathic Doctor. In addition to asking for her help with my hypoadrenal problems and difficult menstrual and hormonal problems, I'll be asking her for some of the tests to determine if my pituitary is the problem, tests which Andy said on page 114 are valuable for this purpose. We'll see if she is willing to help me with that. Abrenica > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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