Re: Vegetarians and sulphur foods?

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation andrewhallcutler wrote:

It is very difficult to be a vegetarian, eat a low sulfur diet, and not die of

protein

malnutrition. Nuts other than peanuts are the only avaialble source of protein

in that case.

I don't have much experience with the wheat and rice protein supplements to

know what

they do to people who need low sulfur diets.

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> > In general, the thinking among vegan nutritionists and MDs is that

> > there is a cult of protein in our animal-food-centric society that

> is

> > unrelated to reality, and that most people do not need to make any

> > special effort to get enough protein on a vegan diet. I don't know

> > whether being metal toxic changes this.

It does.

-----------I may be a good example of this. I have mercury plus arsenic, and

adrenal fatigue bad enough that I am taking HC, and I have a high need for

protein (meat). The arsenic seems to make this worse, and in HTI and in a

personal response to me, Andy told me for the arsenic, to eat as much of an

Atkins style diet as I can stand. I feel best when I eat meat and vegetables,

so it seems to hold true in my case.

I have also noticed times where I have tried other protein sources, such as

nuts, for my protein needs, and it just doesn't feel like it satisfies my

requirements, and I end up craving/eating meat. This has even happened with

fish, which I rarely eat, but it has made me feel like I haven't eaten any

meat/protein.

So for me, being toxic and having adrenal fatigue, definitely requires alot of

protein, and I seem to need it in the form of meat. That is just my personal

experience.

Now, I respect people's choices to be vegetarian or whatever, but I also

believe that there isn't a one-diet-fits-all scenario either. I believe we all

have different needs, and not that we follow Huggins' here, but his idea of an

" ancestral diet " does make some sense to me, that people will have different

protein/nutrient requirements based on their genetics. So vegan may be best for

you, and meat may be best for me. Although in Huggins' books, he does say that

he doesn't believe you can heal on a vegetarian diet. That's his opinion, not

mine, and I have no idea if he's right or not, so I don't want to argue about

this. Like I said, I respect people's choices to be vegetarian. Maybe you guys

can prove him wrong? -------------Jackie

Also the vegan nutritionists are cult. Human protein requirements are

difficult to meet

without eating animal products. Getting enough protein is a smaller issue than

getting

'balanced' protein so that you do not become deficient in a few amino acids.

People with metabolic impairment and also adrenal stress do need a lot of

protein.

----------As I said above, I seem to be living proof of this, so I totally

agree with Andy on this point. I have a very high need for protein, and seem to

only be able to satisfy it with meat. Just my experience.---------Jackie

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Andy

[Guest guest]

Josie, it's not a case of not eating properly.  I was veggie for seven years.  I

ate kale, broccoli, spinach, nuts, beans and rice, etc. I began having sugar

issues and ate nuts in between meals.  I subscribed to several Vegetarian

magazines and had cookbooks. 

 

When first diagnosed as anemic, I started taking 25 mg of iron per day, the

recommended dosage.  I tested again months later and was *still* under the

optimum.  I doubled the dosage to 50 mg per day and was *still* anemic (!!). 

That told me that something serious was going on...and now I know it was

interference by that horrible mercury.

 

Just wanted you to know that I did all the right things with regards to diet. 

It wasn't enough.  I'm not saying this is for you, because we all have to make

our own decisions on what's best for us, but this is my story.

 

Best of luck,

Robyn

 

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I think the downfall for most people turning veggie is when they have

been so used to eating meat that they don't consider other sources of

nutrition but I have never eaten it in the first place and will never

eat it no matter what.

~Josie

[Guest guest]

It's been awhile, and mercury has messed with my memory of that time, but I

believe it was both B-12 and iron deficiency.

 

You jogged my memory, too-- that both of my parents have anemia issues.  They're

now in their 80's.

 

So...it seems to be a genetic thing, as well.

 

Best,

Robyn

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Robyn, was your diagnosis iron-deficiency anemia, or a different type

of anemia?

~beigetable