Re: Adrenals, supplements, ACE

[Guest guest]

>

> Same happened to me with ACE (and my saliva tests came up very low

> too, especially in the morning.) I was told by Dr. Peatfield to

> start ACE low and only increase the ace dose slowly every 7-10 days.

> I had target doses of 200mg….but no change…so next target was

> 500mg…next 750mg…next 900mg. I'm at 1000mg at breakfast now and its

> working:-) I got strange symptoms at 100mg. so I started at 25mg and

> gradually built up to 1000mg over 4 months. At first increasing the

> dose too much made me ill and I had to back down again, but I went

> from 500mg to 1000mg in 4 weeks at the end. But at the start I had

> to go real slow. Only now, after 4 months and at 1000mg ACE are my

> adrenals are coming on line. Temps are stable and blood pressure

> does not drop on standing up. Feeling better too.

>

> I suggest low and slow…it worked for me eventually.

>

> Sunshine

>

Sunshine, I have followed your reports on this closely and am

following your plan. I know you started at 25mg and then went to 50,

but did you stay with 25mg increases after that or go to 50? So, was

it 25, 50, 75, 100 or 25, 50, 100?

It sounds like you take the whole dose in the morning, is that correct?

I'm glad you mentioned that you're now at 1000 and really starting to

notice it work. Did you start ACE at the same time you started the

other adrenal support vits (B/C etc)? Or did you start them first and

the ACE later?

Low and slow for sure!!

[Guest guest]

Sunshine,

I'm thinking of starting ACE as well. My first few rounds (3 so

far) have really fatigued me a lot. What is the brand you are using?

>

> Same happened to me with ACE (and my saliva tests came up very low

> too, especially in the morning.) I was told by Dr. Peatfield to

start

> ACE low and only increase the ace dose slowly every 7-10 days. I

had

> target doses of 200mg….but no change…so next target was 500mg…next

> 750mg…next 900mg. I'm at 1000mg at breakfast now and its working:-

) I

> got strange symptoms at 100mg. so I started at 25mg and gradually

> built up to 1000mg over 4 months. At first increasing the dose too

> much made me ill and I had to back down again, but I went from

500mg

> to 1000mg in 4 weeks at the end. But at the start I had to go real

> slow. Only now, after 4 months and at 1000mg ACE are my adrenals

are

> coming on line. Temps are stable and blood pressure does not drop

on

> standing up. Feeling better too.

>

> I suggest low and slow…it worked for me eventually.

>

> Sunshine

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Sunshine, I have followed your reports on this closely and am

> following your plan. I know you started at 25mg and then went to

50,

> but did you stay with 25mg increases after that or go to 50? So,

was

> it 25, 50, 75, 100 or 25, 50, 100?

-------------ACE: I started at 25mg, then 10 days later moved to

50mg, after that I moved up each time by 50mg's every 7-10 days.

Each time I got impatient and pushed it up higher than 50mg's, my

temps went up and they stabilised a little bit more for a short time,

but then other reactions happened that outweighed the benefits and

made me sick, so I was forced to back down again.

These pushes, even though they made me sick, they did show me that I

was on the right track. I believe I have had adrenal fatigue for most

of my life, my temp has always been below normal, so when the ace

dose is pumped up too quickly my body could not handle the extra

hormones, it's not used to them and my body needed time to adapt.

(I'm assuming this, I did ask in Yahoo FDC in December and this was

the best idea we could come up with. Dr. P thought this was correct

too.)

I monitor my temps daily and I have found this monitoring essential

to keep my interest and it's plainly obvious the temps perfectly

reflect how I feel in real life. The higher they are, the more stable

they, are the better I feel.

During the last 4 months I had various…..ermmm…various health mini-

crisis's…like a bad chelation round and other things that hurt me and

made me ill. I noticed that whenever I had a problem my temps dived

and the stability was completely lost….until I recovered and then

went back to how they where before the mini crisis.

In the last 6 weeks, this happened 3 times, I decided to increase the

ACE dose by more than the 50mg at those times of most need. It was a

calculated risk. I pumped up by 100mg those times and the last

problem 2 weeks ago I upped the dose by 250mg to 1000mg's. I feel

this help me recover a little quicker.

After 4 months of continually increasing the dose my body is

obviously now able to handle the extra hormones. Yesterday was the

highest daily average temp I have ever had….a 36.6. the day before

was 36.5. That's 3 temps taken at 9am, noon and 3pm and averaged.

>

> It sounds like you take the whole dose in the morning, is that

correct?

-------------Dosing times: yes, I dose all in the morning. When I

initially started dosing , I was dosing morning, noon, and dinner and

no way could I sleep at night…I very quickly realised the ACE was

doing this and stopped the evening dose. But it was only when I

stopped the lunchtime dose that my sleeping went back to normal. I

have not retested this now that I'm on 1000mg's. I feel that it is

worth a try to maybe dose 750mg at breakfast and 250mg at lunch…but

have not tried this yet.

>

> I'm glad you mentioned that you're now at 1000 and really starting

to

> notice it work. Did you start ACE at the same time you started the

> other adrenal support vits (B/C etc)? Or did you start them first

and

> the ACE later?

-----------No….i had been on Cutler style supplements for 3-4 months

already when I started the ACE.

Interestingly I recently stopped all my supplements, except the ACE

and Kelp, to see if I really needed them….and I was rewarded with a

huge drop in temp, wildly unstable temps and feeling like rough as

hell. Upon restarting the supplements my temps came up and stabilised

and came back to normal. A good experiment….shows i need all those

supplements, they defo help me. Everything Cutler has said has so far

turned out to be correct. Don't stray from the protocol! :-)

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

>

> Sunshine,

> I'm thinking of starting ACE as well. My first few rounds (3 so

> far) have really fatigued me a lot. What is the brand you are using?

>

>

----------Brands: I initially started with the Thorne research because

they are only 50mgs. Then I was taking 10 a day it was getting

expensive so I switched brands to what Cutler said was ok, many other

people on Yahoo FDC also seem to be using the same…

" Nutricology " Allergy Research Group, Adrenal Cortex, 100 Capsules –

these have 250mg Adrenal Cortex tissue(bovine) in them. I get them from

iherb.com

Sunshine