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Re: Re: New to group, husband has kidney pain - Dean.

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> I don't know what a " kidney cleanse " is or what it does.

Hi Dave

A recipe of different herbs to slowly clean the kidneys. I have used Dr

's one for years and don't believe there is anything contraindicated

according to Andy's protocol.

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/kidney_cleanse.html

> Ok, so this is not the lower back pain that we were talking about with

> Cari's

> husband? ...

I don't know, I was generalizing.

>Ah, maybe I get it, you see two basic kinds of back pain. One related to

>kidneys and the other related to adrenals

Yes, and the only conclusive way to know in my opinion (which is becoming

quite off topic now),

is to support the adrenals, or clean the kidneys and check the response to

each.

> Because his pain was

> throughout the back, you believe that it was related to the adrenals

> radiating

> pain from T12 throughout the whole back, rather than the kidneys. Is that

> it?

This is getting a little too theoretical for me :-)

I would need to assess the person with my hands for clarity.

> Ok, so am I understanding that you see chelation as causing damage to

> organs,

> particularly the adrenals, the thyroid and the kidneys, and that this

> potential

> damage needs to be diverted by adrenal support, thyroid support and

> " kidney

> cleanses " ?

I would say that these organs come under stress, and if they are not

properly supported then they can be damaged.

> If I'm understanding,

> you also believe, in a sort of chiropractic way, that in the face of

> chelation,

> those organs will lead to back problems in the area of the nerves that

> enervate

> the organs. Am I right?

It was commonly accepted by the medical profession not so long ago that a

'sick/stressed' organ referred pain to its corresponding area as dictated by

spinal innervations. e.g. appendix to the right and down from the navel

(McBurney's point).

All anatomy books still carry these patterns of referral.

The rest I have learned over the years working clinically with people and

does not fit within the discussions of this group.

Thanks,

Dean

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