I want DMPS capsules, but have no prescription

[Guest guest]

Hello everybody.

I have done 17 rounds ALA(12.5;25;33 mg) and 5

round DMSA(25mg). Digestion has improved and my mind

is far more clear.

I could have done many more rounds, but getting

up every 3 hours just really makes me tired.

DMPS has a half life that is about 7-8 hours. This

would be great for me, because then I could get

good sleep while chelating. This way I can chelate

a lot more.

The problem is that I don't have a prescription.

I live in the Netherlands and I am certain that

no doctor here will give me a prescription.

Is there a way I can get DMPS from USA without

prescription? I have read about a product called

''Mercout'' which has DMPS in it, but it requires

no prescription. Not that I want to use this product.

I need DMPS with a hypoallergenic filler. I have some

nasty allergies.

If anybody can help/advise me with this issue I would be

very grateful.

Thank you in advance.

Greetings,

Ali

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately DMPS requires a prescription as well both in the US and Canada.

Note that if you do DMPS+ALA instead of DMSA+ALA, you still have to

dose every 3 hours for the ALA...

Mercout is 30 x 130mg pills DMPS for $300. They don't look easy to

split. They could not tell me on the phone if there were additional

ingredients other than DMPS, which does not inspire confidence!

http://www.mercout.com/product.php?productid=4 & cat=9 & page=1

However they are located in New Zealand, where DMPS does not require

a prescription. Perhaps you could find a compounding pharmacy there

that would ship to you.

There is also a pharmacy in Armenia that will sell you 100 100mg DMPS

caps for $1350.

http://www.consultdrminas.com/index.php?cnt=3 & sub=24

The problem with the above is fillers and quality are not tested .

Use at your own risk. Personally, I find it scary, as I have no

knowledge of pharmaceutical regulatory conditions in Armenia.

And remember, cheltation is a marathon, not a horse race!

>Hello everybody.

>

>I have done 17 rounds ALA(12.5;25;33 mg) and 5

>round DMSA(25mg). Digestion has improved and my mind

>is far more clear.

>

>I could have done many more rounds, but getting

>up every 3 hours just really makes me tired.

>

>DMPS has a half life that is about 7-8 hours. This

>would be great for me, because then I could get

>good sleep while chelating. This way I can chelate

>a lot more.

>

>The problem is that I don't have a prescription.

>I live in the Netherlands and I am certain that

>no doctor here will give me a prescription.

>

>Is there a way I can get DMPS from USA without

>prescription? I have read about a product called

>''Mercout'' which has DMPS in it, but it requires

>no prescription. Not that I want to use this product.

>

>I need DMPS with a hypoallergenic filler. I have some

>nasty allergies.

>

>If anybody can help/advise me with this issue I would be

>very grateful.

>

>Thank you in advance.

>

>Greetings,

>

>Ali

>

>

--

Ralph Nader on the need for moral courage:

[Guest guest]

--- In frequent-dose-chelation , Ross

wrote

>

> Mercout is 30 x 130mg pills DMPS for $300. They don't look easy to

> split. They could not tell me on the phone if there were additional

> ingredients other than DMPS, which does not inspire confidence!

> http://www.mercout.com/product.php?productid=4 & cat=9 & page=1

MercOut will shop international. They have for me before. I believe

their additional supplements (not the DMPS) have a lot of different

things in them you would not want to take. I'm not sure about the DMPS

itself. I don't know what they fill it with.

> However they are located in New Zealand, where DMPS does not require

> a prescription. Perhaps you could find a compounding pharmacy there

> that would ship to you.

http://www.pharmaceutical.co.nz/ is a compounding pharmacy in Auckland

I have used. Not sure if they will ship international. I would be

surprised, but you could always ask.

Alternatively, hope a flight to Seattle (you can probably go direct on

KLM for a decent price in the winter) and visit .

-Ed

[Guest guest]

>

> --- In frequent-dose-chelation , Ross

> <mrossgrp@> wrote

> >

> > Mercout is 30 x 130mg pills DMPS for $300. They don't look easy to

> > split. They could not tell me on the phone if there were additional

> > ingredients other than DMPS, which does not inspire confidence!

> > http://www.mercout.com/product.php?productid=4 & cat=9 & page=1

>

> MercOut will shop international. They have for me before. I believe

> their additional supplements (not the DMPS) have a lot of different

> things in them you would not want to take. I'm not sure about the DMPS

> itself. I don't know what they fill it with.

Yes, the " AM capsules " contain ALA, NAC, cysteine, and some other

ingredients. You would want to skip those entirely.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you everybody for answering.

Ok. So I understand that getting DMPS without

prescription is impossible in the US.

Is it possible for a US doctor to prescribe me

DMPS which can then be sent to me in the Netherlands?

Does anybody know such a doctor which prescribes

DMPS? I can't come to the US unfortunately. Maybe

online consultation or something?

Anybody know how much this might cost? All the supps

I am using are already quite expensive, but what can I

do. I must pay to get healthy.

I will email the New Zealand pharmacy. Let you guys

know if they will compound and ship internationally

without prescription.

Thanks in advance for help/advise.

Greetings,

Ali

[Guest guest]

Hi again.

I was just checking the ingredient list

of this ''Mercout''.

Here it is:

http://www.mercout.com/skin1/images/supplement_facts.gif

The ''Mercout'' package includes AM and PM capsules.

The AM capsules contain stuff like MSM, NAC, which both

redistribute mercury.

The PM capsules seem to be pure DMPS, although I assume

there is always a filler used. I will email them what

the filler is.

Anyway so the Mercout program has 30 times 125 mg DMPS which

is if I still can calculate with all this mercury in my body

3.75 grams total. This amount for 300 dollars. So one milligram

is 0.08 dollars.

I have read that at falls pharmacy 100 capsules DMPS each 50 mg is

207 dollars. So that is 5 grams total for 207 dollars, which means

0.414 dollars per milligram. So buying from this pharmacy is about

half the price, but you do need a prescription.

Let's say I would buy mercout. If I would use 25 mg DMPS every 6 hours

that would mean I need 100 mg a day, so about 300 mg per round(3

days). So the mercout package would be enough for 3750 mg/300mg is

about 12-13 rounds. Probably 15 rounds or so because I would start at

a lower dose.

So 20 bucks for a round of chelating with DMPS, lol! That would

be about 6 times or so more expensive than chelating with ALA at

the same dosage!

For health you need to pay.

Let me know what you guys think.

Greetings,

ali

[Guest guest]

> Ok. So I understand that getting DMPS without

> prescription is impossible in the US.

Yes

> Is it possible for a US doctor to prescribe me

> DMPS which can then be sent to me in the Netherlands?

>

> Does anybody know such a doctor which prescribes

> DMPS? I can't come to the US unfortunately. Maybe

> online consultation or something?

Any doctor in the US will at least need to see you once, for liability

reasons. Most people who consult with in Seattle only visit her

once, then correspond via email and phone.

[Guest guest]

Dear .

I have been using ALA for 17 rounds now. I have

also used DMSA 5 rounds.

I want to use DMPS because I can get good quality sleep.

I unfortunately have a lot of difficulty waking up to

take the ALA. Sometimes I wake up an hour later because

my head starts pounding(redistribution).

I was thinking about doing 15 or 20 rounds DMPS and then

starting ALA again. I also have too much copper. So DMPS

is a good choice as it chelates copper as well without

decreasing billiary excretion of it which ALA does.

I have only done 22 rounds of chelating in one year and 2

months. If I had been using DMPS, I would have done probably

40 rounds or more because DMPS has a long half life so I can

sleep better.

If you are correct in that ALA increases mercury excretion by 1200%

and DMPS only 30%, that means that using ALA for a round is the same

as using DMPS for 40 rounds or so. I don't think this is correct

.

I don't think people would use DMPS if it would excrete so little

mercury.

I might be wrong though.

Greetings,

Ali

ar

> >

> > Thank you everybody for answering.

> >

> > Ok. So I understand that getting DMPS without

> > prescription is impossible in the US.

> >

> > Is it possible for a US doctor to prescribe me

> > DMPS which can then be sent to me in the Netherlands?

> >

> > Does anybody know such a doctor which prescribes

> > DMPS? I can't come to the US unfortunately. Maybe

> > online consultation or something?

> >

> > Anybody know how much this might cost? All the supps

> > I am using are already quite expensive, but what can I

> > do. I must pay to get healthy.

> >

> > I will email the New Zealand pharmacy. Let you guys

> > know if they will compound and ship internationally

> > without prescription.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for help/advise.

> >

> > Greetings,

> >

> > Ali

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali,

>

> Dear .

>

> I have been using ALA for 17 rounds now. I have

That's great! Keep using it.

> also used DMSA 5 rounds.

You can keep using DMSA along with ALA if you want to.

>

> I want to use DMPS because I can get good quality sleep.

Using only DMPS you will not get well. Sleep deprivation is one of the

reasons people take days OFF between rounds.

> I unfortunately have a lot of difficulty waking up to

> take the ALA. Sometimes I wake up an hour later because

> my head starts pounding(redistribution).

It is recommended to stop the round if you miss a dose for more than

one hour.

Some people do better taking ALA more often. It helps with the

redistribution issues you comment on.

>

> I was thinking about doing 15 or 20 rounds DMPS and then

> starting ALA again. I also have too much copper. So DMPS

> is a good choice as it chelates copper as well without

> decreasing billiary excretion of it which ALA does.

You can take a break from ALA as long as you eventually resume it. For

copper issues, please read page 256 of Hair Test Interpretation.

Depending on you copper level, you should restrict ALA chelation

somewhat. You should reduce your copper intake avoiding meals high in

copper and reduce copper absorption using zinc and molybdenum. In HTI

it is also said that it is convenient to increase bile flow using

taurine, glycine, milk thistle and phosphatidylcholine with meals.

DMPS is not the option of choice for copper. See

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/19480.html.

>

> I have only done 22 rounds of chelating in one year and 2

> months. If I had been using DMPS, I would have done probably

> 40 rounds or more because DMPS has a long half life so I can

> sleep better.

For better sleep you may want to take melatonine. Also candida issues

produce insomnia. It happened to me when I started ALA.

>

> If you are correct in that ALA increases mercury excretion by 1200%

> and DMPS only 30%, that means that using ALA for a round is the same

> as using DMPS for 40 rounds or so. I don't think this is correct

> .

Please read Amalgam Illness and Hair Test Interpretation, you will

find there lots of information useful for you. Check AI, p. 202. The

figures for increasing of bile mercury excretion using ALA are found

in Gregus et al., " Effect of lipoic acid on biliary excretion of

glutathione and metals " , Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology, Volume

114, Issue 1, May 1992, Pages 88-96 .

>

> I don't think people would use DMPS if it would excrete so little

> mercury.

There two good reasons to use DMPS are symptom suppression and faster

clearance of blood mercury, for example after amalgam removal.

Hope you will find your way to get better.

Good luck!