Re: 4 tricky questions

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In frequent-dose-chelation charliewoodburn wrote:

Message for andy,

---------Just so you know, Andy doesn't read all the messages here all the

time, and responds occassionally. He has said that if you want him to look at a

post and/or answer a question, to post it to the group, and then send him a

personal email with the post number in it. No guarantee as to when he will

answer, I'm sure it depends on how busy he is.--------Jackie

I;ve been chelating for a year and a half now using DMSA and ALA. My

symptoms are much improved since i started.

-----------That's great! Would you mind giving us a progress report sometime,

so we can add it to our file? It's nice to hear progress reports, because most

people only post about their problems.---------Jackie

I have a few questions that have been on my mind for a while now:

1. I can still only tolerate 18.75mg DMSA (after 18 months chelation)

and 8mg ALA (after 10 months). This seems like a very low dose still

and is pretty inconvenient since i have to keep splitting the 25mg

capsules and cut them up. I ahve tried 25mg DMSA and 12.5mg ALA and

this has been ok for up to 5 rounds but then my symptoms deteriorate

and i have to come down again. Is this common? Or am i to assume i am

just a sensetive individual.

----------This certainly seems to vary alot by person, but there are some of

us that can only tolerate low doses, even after many months or years of

chelation. I'm one of them. So yes, we are either more sensitive, or maybe

more toxic, or some combination, or have something else affecting how much

chelation we can handle.

I did notice on your hair test that your adrenals look pretty stressed. But

the last one was a year ago. Anyway, have you or are you taking or doing

anything for adrenal support? And/or have you ever had any adrenal testing

done, like saliva testing? Weak adrenals may be one reason for you only

tolerating low doses of chelators.---------Jackie

2. Also i have stopped using ALA for a few rounds since my gut was

getting out of shape again and my arthritis and muscle spasm symptons

were coming back. I think this is because ALA excreates through the

liver and into the gut where as DMSA excreates through the kidneys. Is

this a good idea or am i just delaying things by stopping ALA?

---------Other people have mentioned taking breaks from ALA, especially if

symptoms have gotten worse. So nothing wrong with trying that. But you may

also want to review your supplements, and maybe try adjusting those too. You

can look in AI for ideas of things that might help specific symptoms. Looking

at your hair test and the muscle spasm symptoms mentioned above, I would think

that lots of electrolytes might be good for you.-----------Jackie

3. ALA crosses the BBB and DMSA does not, but does DMSA get into any

cells at all or is it just the brain? I am curious as to whether DMSA

will remove Hg from other organs such as the lungs, muscles or

adrenals or whether it is only ALA that will do this. My experience

shows me that DMSA removes Hg from my gut and will help with disbiosis.

---------My understanding is that DMSA only chelates *extracellular* spaces,

and that ALA is needed to get into the cells and cross the BBB. By reducing

body burden with DMSA, you can see improvements in various symptoms, but ALA is

needed to do the deep chelating.---------Jackie

4. I train very hard for rock climbing, and this is a very important

part of my life. I know that excersise puts stress on the adrenals

---------Have you done this all along during the time of your hair tests?

Because they do show the adrenal stress pattern in pretty much all of them,

especially your last test in August 2007. You may want to take it a little

easier on your adrenals, or support them as much as you can. Your training and

chelation are both stress on them. There are links in the links section about

Adrenals. Or ask questions.---------Jackie

and

depleates Glutathione. Would it be a good idea to suppplement with v

small doses of Glutathione? and if so what sort of starting dose would

you recommend considering i am v sensetive to DMSA and ALA.

----------You can search archives for posts by Andy about glutathione. I

checked onibasu/wiki, but didn't see anything. I'm sure there are posts in the

ANDY INDEX about it though. Anyway, my understanding is that oral

supplementation is a waste of money, because it will not be absorbed, or will be

destroyed before it can. And Andy says to never do glutathione IV's. They are

miraculously wonderful for some people, and horribly devastating for others, and

the damage can be severe and possibly permanent. So not worth the risk. But he

does say tha if you want to increase glutathione, that you can try taking the

precursors to it, which are NAC, glutamine, and glycine. He gives the ratios in

AI. But some people do not tolerate NAC, it is very sulfury, so shouldn't be

taken by some. In that case, just take the other two.---------Jackie

My hair tests are number 101 if this is of any help.

--------Always interesting to look at a series of tests. You had very

elevated mercury and silver, and it is good to see them coming down. Your last

test was a year ago, so a current one might be interesting to see. Any plans on

doing another one? And do you have the hair test book, so you can read about

the elevated silver and the adrenal stress, etc.? --------Jackie

Many thanks

Charlie