Re: Bad yeast/bacterial infection wtih or w/o chelating

[Guest guest]

I haven't had yeast problems myself. The person I remember who did,

and who found how to control symptoms during chelation is . If

he doesn't respond, try emailing him direct (search for in the

group search engine to find one of his posts, and there will be a

place to click on to send him an email).

The specific carbohydrate diet contains readily absorbed foods so that

the body and desired organisms are nourished, and the undesirable

microbes are starved. Initially, a person must stay on the beginner

diet (mostly chicken soup, cooked carrots, SCD yogurt, then introduce

cooked meats and vegetables) until symptoms start to resolve. You

would need to modify the diet to delete sulfur foods because sulfur

feeds yeast. As you add foods you would need to avoid those that are

high sugar (for example honey is SCD legal, but would need to be

avoided until the yeast is under control). You could try making the

SCD yogurt. It is a great source of probiotics. I make it from

goat's milk but you could make it from almond milk or coconut milk to

decrease the amount of sulfur. See the link:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yoghurt.htm

Also, see the file

Neutrophils, Yeast and DMSA.txt

in the files section here.

J

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> Hi, im having really bad problems with yeast it makes no difference if

> im chelating or taking a break it seems to be just as bad.

>

> I have a really white coating on tonuge, im reduced to eating salad's

> (so a totally yeast free diet) and i sometimes i get yeast infection of

> the penis.

>

> I've tried every anti funal possible with no die off whatsoever,

> currently im taking GSE and nystatin for yeast with no effect tbh. I'm

> taking all the supplements andy suggests in his book, plus L-Glutamine

> and slippery elm for the stomach.

>

> I am unable to take pro bitoics, not even dairy/soy free custom

> probitoics as they flare my stomach and yeast problems up. I've even

> done a parasite cleanse, which is the only time ive ever felt any die

> off sort of reaction.

>

> Has anybody been in a similar situation or know of anything which can

> help me out, i feel if i could get this under control, the chelating

> and my life would be come so much easier to cope with.

>

[Guest guest]

Is Nystatin the only prescription antifungal you've tried? I struggled

hard with yeast and tried every otc remedy and also found that the

parasite cleanse was the only thing that produced any kind of result.

Until I went to the doc and got a prescription for Diflucan

(fluconazole). I took a five-day round of Diflucan that was pretty

rough on my liver (I could feel it aching and was low-energy and

generally felt crummy) but by God, it knocked that yeast back!

So just in case you haven't looked into it, not all prescription

antifungals are created equal. Nystatin is considered pretty mild and

is often recommended as a maintenance treatment after yeast has been

knocked back by a short-term dose of something more powerful.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry to hear about your yeast problems. They are well beyond my

personal experience fighting yeast since apparently I only suffered

from yeast in the gut.

Normally chelation should go on along with fighting yeast problems,

but your case seems to suggest stopping chelation at all until you can

stop somewhat the awful yeast flareup.

Could you please tell us what supplements are you taking? I really do

hope you are not taking ALL that is suggested in Andy's book!

Also, what are you eating exactly?

I think is very right pointing out to Andy's file about yeast.

You need something boosting your immune system. I think she is also

right pointing out the need of a strict diet to control yeast. What

worked well for me was a low sulfur diet together with a strict

avoidance of anything having simple sugars (sweet things -even fruit-,

dairy products...) or yeast (like bread). Basically I ate lettuce,

tomatoes, chicken and brown rice or potatoes. Some people would say

that even brown rice and potatoes are not a good idea, but it worked

well for me.

I also tried a number of antifungals, but somehow managed to avoid

things very rough for the liver. I used (and I am still on) 1.500.000

I.U. of nystatin (sometimes even more) three/four times per day.

Adding some other non-Rx antifungals to this probably is also a good

idea. Beware about things like garlic, since it is very high in thiols

and would break down the magic of the low-sulfur diet.

Beware also of things slowing down too much your liver phase 1, like

GSE. If your stools become too discolored, stop them because of the

lack of bile.

Probiotics are very important. You should find some brand that you can

take. I don't understand how can probiotics flare up your yeast

problems! They are an important tool to control yeast on the long

term. Are you sure it is not a problem with lactose?

If all this fails -or is failing already- then probably Aine is right

and I would then try some other stronger Rx antifungals, like

fluconazole. Maybe you need something like that right now, I don't know.

The low-sulfur diet should not be maintained indefinitely, unless you

are one of those with elevated plasma cysteine. Now I eat sulfur foods

without problem. However, I cannot eat nothing sweet, not even an

apple. When I do it I find myself extremely tired the day after.

Hope something of this may help you. Good luck!

> Hi, im having really bad problems with yeast it makes no difference if

> im chelating or taking a break it seems to be just as bad.

>

> I have a really white coating on tonuge, im reduced to eating salad's

> (so a totally yeast free diet) and i sometimes i get yeast infection of

> the penis.

>

> I've tried every anti funal possible with no die off whatsoever,

> currently im taking GSE and nystatin for yeast with no effect tbh. I'm

> taking all the supplements andy suggests in his book, plus L-Glutamine

> and slippery elm for the stomach.

>

> I am unable to take pro bitoics, not even dairy/soy free custom

> probitoics as they flare my stomach and yeast problems up. I've even

> done a parasite cleanse, which is the only time ive ever felt any die

> off sort of reaction.

>

> Has anybody been in a similar situation or know of anything which can

> help me out, i feel if i could get this under control, the chelating

> and my life would be come so much easier to cope with.

>