Re: Anger as side effect of chelation?

[Guest guest]

>

> Has anyone else experienced this, and does this sound like

> > an expected side effect of chelation?

> >

> Absolutely. I have found that this side effect has diminished greatly

> but still the odd round on day one I am miserable to live with,

> everything so to speak pisses me off---and I am usually very tolerant.

> I feel so angry, grumpy. For me is passes after the first day but prior

> it happened all the time, even off round.

>

> It will get better. Let your family know.

>

> Colette

>

Thanks, everyone, for your replies. The encouragement is helpful.

I chelated for three months with DMSA before starting ALA, according to the

protocol.

The first two rounds with ALA were not too bad, with only minor side effects

(beyond what

I had already been dealing with). I thought, " oh, this isn't going to be too

bad. " Then, just

as I finished the third round, I started feeling this anger, actually a feeling

of rage, that

was very distinctive. It was definitely not just a " bad day " kind of thing. I

can sometimes

be irritable, but I never feel the kind of boiling rage that I was feeling

yesterday! It is

better today, thankfully.

I think I started with too high a dose of ALA (100 mg). I will be lowering that

for the next

round!

Thanks again, and best wishes to everyone.

[Guest guest]

Since alot of us have experienced this, does anybody know exactly

what it is? Is it yeast or mercury?

[Guest guest]

> Since alot of us have experienced this, does anybody know exactly

> what it is? Is it yeast or mercury?

I believe from what I have read and from my own experience that there

are two distinct issues; mercury in the HPA and mercury in brain tissue.

In both cases processes (like release of cortisol, a glucocorticoid)

that relate to fear and anger can be disordered by the presence of Hg

at hormone receptor sites. If cortisol is not properly regulated,

well, wild swings in cortisol are definitely not the norm, not in

average everday activities. It can become a fight or flight roller

coaster.

I am less clear about how HG can affect the pre frontal cortex

(agression inhibition comes from that area of our brains that governs

" higher thoughts " and in the amygdala, a more " primitive " brain area

that seems to generate aggressive behaviors. But it seems quite clear

that HG messes with subtle feedback loops wherever they occur and

especially when they are governed by hormones or horomone like

substances (nerurotransmitters for example)....

don't think yeast has much to do with anger problems directly. Yeast

may create circunstance whereby mercury methylates into the more toxic

form and adds to body burden however.

Doug

[Guest guest]

I wonder what role (if any) liver metabolism could play in this?

>

>

> > Since alot of us have experienced this, does anybody know exactly

> > what it is? Is it yeast or mercury?

>

> I believe from what I have read and from my own experience that there

> are two distinct issues; mercury in the HPA and mercury in brain tissue.

>

> In both cases processes (like release of cortisol, a glucocorticoid)

> that relate to fear and anger can be disordered by the presence of Hg

> at hormone receptor sites. If cortisol is not properly regulated,

> well, wild swings in cortisol are definitely not the norm, not in

> average everday activities. It can become a fight or flight roller

> coaster.

>

> I am less clear about how HG can affect the pre frontal cortex

> (agression inhibition comes from that area of our brains that governs

> " higher thoughts " and in the amygdala, a more " primitive " brain area

> that seems to generate aggressive behaviors. But it seems quite clear

> that HG messes with subtle feedback loops wherever they occur and

> especially when they are governed by hormones or horomone like

> substances (nerurotransmitters for example)....

>

> don't think yeast has much to do with anger problems directly. Yeast

> may create circunstance whereby mercury methylates into the more toxic

> form and adds to body burden however.

>

> Doug

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you, Nanci and well said.

Kai

Dont forget the power of nutrition..

This week for the first time since getting ill 33 years ago, I

feel like a nice person.. I added more molybdenum to my diet

and my coordination is so much better and my brain feels

refreshed..

The fear of falling and being pushed around when I felt

off of balance was very hard for that part of me that needs

to be in control.. We are all people who have aged before

our time.. We all have our buttons .. we all are like anyone

else who wants to rule the world..LOL> . I just try to

remember to be thankful that I may not have to end up ill at

the end of my life and will maybe be able to be a nicer

person into my old age ..

>> I try to remind myself that I cannot save the world and

I do not need to keep up with everyone.. I am going at the

pace that is right for me..

nanci

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