Re: Just done my first proper round of chelation... dry hair...

[Guest guest]

Bob,

From my family/personal/yahoo group experience...upper respiratory

infections are common with adrenal fatigue.

And the adrenal fatigue might be blocking your thyroid from getting to

your cells which could give you dry skin and hair.

Do you notice any new adrenal symptoms? Sensitive to light? Crave

protein? Can't handle sweets or excitement? Blood sugar issues? Wake

up starving? Wake frequently....

Tasia

>

> >

> After a few days my sinus condition flared up but this may well be

> unrelated and is probably just a co-incidental upper respiratory

> tract infection. I also think my intestinal yeast may have flared up

> leading to some die off on stopping the round of drugs.

>

> Other than that I have not noticed any effects. Is this usual and

> does this give any indication of whether or not significant mercury

> toxicity exists. It is now a week after finishing the round and my

> hair and skin are still very dry but that is all.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bob

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I've just done a round of chelation therapy according to the Cutler

> protocol. I took 100mg DMSA with 100mg ALA every 3 hours for 45

> doses, this worked out at 6 days and 5 nights. This was after doing

> a test round a few months ago starting with 25mg doses and ramping up

> to 100mg based on good tolerance.

>

> I have found that my hair and skin have become incredably dry. I

> recall that ALA can sometimes cause this side effect if taken without

> sufficient biotin, however the product I took contained biotin also

> (Jarrow 100mg Easy Solv tablets with 333mcg biotin). In addition to

> this I also take on a regular basis another 5mg biotin, b complex,

> vit C, magnesium, zinc, vit D, etc.

>

> After a few days my sinus condition flared up but this may well be

> unrelated and is probably just a co-incidental upper respiratory

> tract infection. I also think my intestinal yeast may have flared up

> leading to some die off on stopping the round of drugs.

>

These two side effects could be from moving metals indicating some

toxicity. It would take more rounds and observations of how you do on

and off round to have a better feeling for how toxic you are.

I would try future rounds at lower doses in case side effects creep up

on you, but the decision, of course, is your own.

The dry skin can be thyroid related. Do you have other hypothyroid

symptoms? Chelating slower would be less stressful on your thyroid.

J

> Other than that I have not noticed any effects. Is this usual and

> does this give any indication of whether or not significant mercury

> toxicity exists. It is now a week after finishing the round and my

> hair and skin are still very dry but that is all.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bob

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, thanks all replies.

I realise it was a pretty aggressive dosing regime. I felt reasonably

confident given my good tolerance previously...

So far as my medical condition is concerned it is complex but the

diagnosis is CFS/ME, i've been ill for 11 years. I would never have

suspected mercury poisoning in my case as I don't have one amalgam.

The only possible source I can identify is vaccinations. My interest

was piqued when a hair mineral analysis came back showing very high

levels of mercury. From memory, in the weeks leading up to the test

I'd been building up my glutathione levels (which had tested low) using

undenatured whey protein and detoxing heavily (v sleepy and spaced

out). Could this be connected to/explain the high level of mercury

deposits in my hair??

There is no evidene of an adrenal component to the problem, various

different tests have shown that i maintain good adrenal function, 24hr

urine collection was normal, I even had an insulin tolerance test done

showing good release of both GH and cortisol. Despite these normal

test results is there any way that adrenal function can still be

impeded? Receptor problems?? Possibly worth noting that the salivary

test showed very high levels of DHEAs. (I have light sensitivity but

only as a side effect from taking Ciprofloxacin.)

I have always suspected that i could have thyroid issues but the tests

i've had done (quite comprehensive including T3) have never confirmed

this although the results haven't exactly been consistent, and even if

it is unlikely it may still be possible. Following an infection from

drinking unpasteurised sheeps milk I have always felt cold especially

at night when i sleep under a mountain of duvets.

I may try a few more rounds of chelation, at a lower dose...

Anyone know if Bausch and Lomb rigid gas permiable contact lense

cleaning and soaking and wetting solutions contained mercury

preservative from 1993 to 1999? Also Beconase corticosteroid nasal

aerosol spray from 1988 to whenever it was withdrawn (1992?) (after

that i used the pump action corticosteriod sprays for several years

until 1998)?

Best wishes,

Bob

> From my family/personal/yahoo group experience...upper respiratory

> infections are common with adrenal fatigue.

>

> And the adrenal fatigue might be blocking your thyroid from getting to

> your cells which could give you dry skin and hair.

>

> Do you notice any new adrenal symptoms? Sensitive to light? Crave

> protein? Can't handle sweets or excitement? Blood sugar issues? Wake

> up starving? Wake frequently....

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation achoohoo wrote:

Hi, thanks all replies.

I realise it was a pretty aggressive dosing regime. I felt reasonably

confident given my good tolerance previously...

---------Yes, but as TK and others said, you were probably lucky. And the

reason we have to warn against such high doses, is that we don't know who can

tolerate what and exactly what shape they are in, and many of us would not

tolerate those doses. We don't like to see people get worse

---------Jackie

So far as my medical condition is concerned it is complex but the

diagnosis is CFS/ME, i've been ill for 11 years. I would never have

suspected mercury poisoning in my case as I don't have one amalgam.

The only possible source I can identify is vaccinations.

----------Have you ever had amalgams? Have you had more recent vaccinations?

Can you think of any possible exposures back before you got sick 11 years ago?

Or anything else that might have preceded your illness?-------Jackie

My interest

was piqued when a hair mineral analysis came back showing very high

levels of mercury. From memory, in the weeks leading up to the test

I'd been building up my glutathione levels (which had tested low) using

undenatured whey protein and detoxing heavily (v sleepy and spaced

out). Could this be connected to/explain the high level of mercury

deposits in my hair??

-----------I don't know. When was this hair test done? Did/do you eat alot

of fish? At least with high levels of mercury, it does show that your body can

excrete it. Many of us here have very low hair levels, and there can be a

genetic component involved, as far as being good or poor

excretors.---------Jackie

There is no evidene of an adrenal component to the problem, various

different tests have shown that i maintain good adrenal function, 24hr

urine collection was normal, I even had an insulin tolerance test done

showing good release of both GH and cortisol. Despite these normal

test results is there any way that adrenal function can still be

impeded? Receptor problems?? Possibly worth noting that the salivary

test showed very high levels of DHEAs.

-----------I went looking for the link that had the 7 stages of adrenal

fatigue, and now its not there! I hate when that happens! I believe it used to

be at www.chronicfatigue.org, but I can't find it, so if anyone knows where it

is or if its still available, please let us know.

Anyway, the reason I was looking for it, is because I believe DHEA can go high

in the very early stages of adrenal fatigue, and that's what I was looking to

confirm at the above link. And you mention urine and saliva above, and I'm only

familiar with saliva testing for cortisol and DHEA.--------Jackie

(I have light sensitivity but

only as a side effect from taking Ciprofloxacin.)

-----------Are you taking this now or in the past? How did you do on it? I

got much worse after a couple rounds of Levaquin, which is in the same family of

antibiotics, fluoroquinolones. I'll never take it again.-----------Jackie

I have always suspected that i could have thyroid issues but the tests

i've had done (quite comprehensive including T3) have never confirmed

this although the results haven't exactly been consistent, and even if

it is unlikely it may still be possible. Following an infection from

drinking unpasteurised sheeps milk I have always felt cold especially

at night when i sleep under a mountain of duvets.

------------Standard lab ranges are way too wide, and you want to be in the

upper 1/3 or 1/4 of the range for Free T3 and Free T4 to feel best. Also have

you tested for antibodies? And finally, according to 's Temperature

Syndrome, you can have normal thyroid tests, but still have a thyroid problem,

which you diagnose by taking your temperatures. There is info about tracking

your temps at that website, and Dr. Rind also has info about this at his

website. If you always feel cold, I would definitely check into this thyroid

stuff and start tracking your temps. Dean also has good info about this at his

website, and I believe links to the above, so here's his link.---------Jackie

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/dentalnetwork/index.html

I may try a few more rounds of chelation, at a lower dose...

---------Yes, a lower dose would be safer.-----------Jackie

Anyone know if Bausch and Lomb rigid gas permiable contact lense

cleaning and soaking and wetting solutions contained mercury

preservative from 1993 to 1999? Also Beconase corticosteroid nasal

aerosol spray from 1988 to whenever it was withdrawn (1992?) (after

that i used the pump action corticosteriod sprays for several years

until 1998)?

------------I don't know exactly what products had what and when it was taken

out, but these are/were possible sources of exposure. And sometimes it can be

unknown to you, such as moving into a house/apartment that had a mercury spill

that you're not aware of, such as a broken thermometer, broken fluorescent

lights, etc. Others have mentioned feeling sick after being in labs that

probably had spills. So there are a number of possiblities.-----------Jackie

Best wishes,

Bob

> From my family/personal/yahoo group experience...upper respiratory

> infections are common with adrenal fatigue.

>

> And the adrenal fatigue might be blocking your thyroid from getting to

> your cells which could give you dry skin and hair.

>

> Do you notice any new adrenal symptoms? Sensitive to light? Crave

> protein? Can't handle sweets or excitement? Blood sugar issues? Wake

> up starving? Wake frequently....