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I had to make what felt like a rather weird decision today/yesterday.. a friend

had told me that she had met her old childminder in the playground with 8 kids

with her (she was back when my friend used her only licecend for 5) and she now

minds 2 kids who's mother I know from the toddler group I help run.. (mother no

longer comes to said group as she has started working).. however their aunt

still comes every week and recently I have become very friendly with her (you

know that early stage where you are thinking you are really nice and I would

like to get to know you better).. Well her son goes to the playgroup that Phoebe

goes to so I see her at least 3 times a week.. so after much pondering I decided

to tell her as I felt that I would want to know if it was my children.. I kept

it quite short just said to her that I would want to know if it was me and that

perhaps her sil did not mind or knew but I just felt it would be better to pass

it on.. She said actually you have made a decision easier for me as I have been

told by someone else that this childminder " swaps " kids with another childminder

if they have errands to run or when the pick up school kids (they both have the

max of small kids they are allowed so I don't see how this could legally work)

and she had been pondering about telling her sil as she felt that this was only

second hand information but with what I had just told her she wanted her to

know..

I found it really hard though I guess because it is like you are challenging

someone's judgement.. In my heart I felt that I have done the right thing but

part of me still feel like I was passing on gossip...

In the toddlergroup that I help run there is 5 childminders.. only one of them

would I be willing to leave my kids with.. one over school holidays regularly

have 10 kids (as some are over 8 you can't do a lot) another was minding a baby

(6 mnt) baby's father arrived to pick up baby early and found no one home as it

was just around school pick up time he waited around a little (knowing she minds

2 kids after school) and when she arrived she arrived with school kids 2

toddlers she minds but no baby.. when he asked where his child was he was told

upstairs in the house sleeping.. she had not wanted to wake baby so had popped

out to pick the school kids out as baby would probably not wake anyway..... (so

baby had been left alone in the house)... a 3rd minder I watched hit a child

then turn around and say to another minder Oh his mother doesn't believe in

smacking but what does she know!!!!!.... when one of the other mothers

questioned this with her she said Oh you new young mother all your idea's you

don't know anything.. (said child is no longer in her charge I think someone

tipped mother off)..

Only one of the minders do I think is wonderful she currently has 2 kids but she

used to have 3 one has moved away.. But I watch both kids come up to her for

cuddles and wanting books read and she just has endless patience with them.. the

kids are obviously happy in her care and feel safe as they have that way around

her that you only see in kids who are comfortable around the adult they are

with.. She also is really lovely to talk to and I often sit and have a word with

her .. Should I ever need a childminder I have no doubt in my mind I would ask

her..

Sorry this sounds like a sound of on childminder's and I know that there is many

good ones around (and I do know other's than this one) I just don't get why it

turns into something that horrid and money grapping after all it is children we

are talking about..

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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Lonnie,

I am with you all the way. If the childminders are minding

more kids than they are licensed for or doing something

directly against the parents’ wishes, I would definitely

tell.

I have an acquaintance whose minder I see with her son in

the park frequently, and for some reason, I feel that

something is wrong. Since I haven’t seen or heard anything

really wrong, I can’t say anything. But the son, who always

smiles and says hi to us when he’s with his mum, never does

when he’s with the nanny. Just this morning, Max was

definitely having more fun with the slides when Calvin and

I got there and were talking to him, etc, as the nanny was

seated on the other side of the play area, not even paying

attention.

There are some childminders that come to one of the

playgroups I take Calvin to, and a few in particular (well,

one specifically!) who never intervene even if their

charges are brutally attacking smaller children. It’s up to

the mums of the other kids to try to protect their darlings

and teach the brutes how to get along in society. My little

darling is a bit of a monster at times and can be pushy and

hit and all, but he gets in trouble for it.

Finding a good childminder is so hard and you never know

what’s going on when you’re not there. I don’t want to say

your friends have to be your spy network, but in a way,

they do. Better than hidden CCTV cameras in all the rooms

of your house...

Phyllis

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> Sorry this sounds like a sound of on childminder's and I know that there

is many good ones around (and I do know other's than this one) I just don't

get why it turns into something that horrid and money grapping after all it

is children we are talking about..

>

> Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

> & expecting a Christmas delivery...

It's difficult isn't it! That's why I am personally not comfortable leaving

my children in paid childcare - unless you know the person really well, and

even then sometimes, you just don't know what goes on in the privacy of

their own home.

I also used to see a lot of childminders when I was heavily into the toddler

group scene with my oldest two, and can honestly say I only ever met one

that I would have left my children with - she was a very genuine lovely kind

lady who obviously loved and cared for the children she brought to toddler

group - and the children adored her. I also met a lot that I wouldn't leave

my children with in a million years.

Hannah, 27

Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 6 months

Visit me on the web at :-

http://hannahshome.20m.com

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Lonnie wrote:

> I had to make what felt like a rather weird decision

today/yesterday.. a friend had told me that she had met her old

childminder in the playground with 8 kids with her >>>>>>>>>>>>>..

I think I would have been with you on that one and mentioned the

number of children she had.

Also leaving the baby in the house - that is totally unacceptable -

anything could have happened.

I have never used a childminder but we have 2 nurseries here and I

looked around both of them. The 1st one had a baby in a big Silver

Cross Pram with a sheet over the top " to stop the olders ones

throwing things into it " Well, she then lifted the sheet up to show

the baby laid in the pram with a bottle in its mouth. With the

amount of noise in the room there is no way they could have heard

that baby choking.

Guess which nursery never got my child!

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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