Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation DeanNetwork wrote: > hi Dean, i posted my hair test but have not heard anything yet and > wondered if you had received it ok. i had to send it with email on > microsoft as i couldn't see how to attach through fdc i'm quite new to > pc's > thanks dudley Hi Dudley, Yes, I did put it up a few days ago and informed you, but I think that emails from living (at) livingnetwork.co.za are being blocked by your SPAM mail as you have missed replies from me and Livingnetwork before. You are hair test 194. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html DeanSA ------------------------------ Hi Dudley, Your hair test does not meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport, which might mean that your body handles mercury better than some of us do, and the supplements you were taking may have helped to normalize your test. Also, did I read your history right, and you've been amalgam-free since April '07 ? So possibly your body burden is down, and your hair test wouldn't show mercury that could still be in your brain. Sorry, but sometimes they aren't clear-cut! But clearly you had symptoms from improper amalgam removal, and may have been enough to push you over the edge. Especially in combination with other things. When mineral transport is orderly, as in your case, then Andy says that what is in the toxic section on top usually accurately reflects what is going on in your body. And you have a number of elevated toxic metals, which are probably contributing to your health problems. I would suggest you order his Hair Test Interpretation book, so you can read up on each of these. And I would investigate your possible sources of exposure, some of which may be job-related. The highest is antimony, which is commonly used as a flame retardant in bedding, etc., or almost anything flammable like curtains, upholstery, and carpets. I would check to see if you had any exposure from your job also. Some other things are elevated also, but the one I would be most concerned with would be the lead. Andy says to be concerned with lead in the yellow, and yours is. Again, I would look for sources of exposure, and again, possibly job related. HTI lists possible sources of exposure for each metal, so I do suggest you get the book. You have some other elevated metals, but they usually come down when you chelate and lower your body burden of the other metals. So I believe you have multiple metals contributing to your health problems, of which mercury is probably only a part of this. But, you can't safely chelate the other metals until the mercury was removed from your mouth, so it was a necessary step anyway. So, if you're sure *all the amalgam* is out of your mouth, then I would suggest you start chelating with DMSA, because it is the best chelator for lead, and it works for mercury too. After 3 or more months, then you can add in ALA, because this should help with the antimony, which is similar to arsenic, so chelates the same, and Andy says that ALA is the best chelator for that. Otherwise, your ratios look good, except your Ca/Mg is out of range, which can point to blood sugar regulation problems, so you may want to investigate that. And your test does not have the classic adrenal stress pattern, so hopefully that's ok for you. But many of us have adrenal and thyroid problems, so it's good to be aware of that, and do some testing, if you do have any symptoms. I'll comment more below, in your comments.--------Jackie Health history hair test 194 1.My symptoms are feelings of unreality, pressure in my head, dizziness, muscle weakness, muscle tremors, feelings of impending doom, insomnia, when laying in bed - any thoughts make me feel uneasy. ---------Your symptoms are probably from a combination of all the metals you are dealing with. You can read about these in HTI. Many of the symptoms overlap between the different metals.---------Jackie Prior to having my amalgams out unsafely, I was a fit 54 year old. I ran and cycled regularly and held down a very physical job as a Stonemason. ----------Your physical job probably helped to detox you through sweating regularly, but as I said above, I would also investigate it as being a possible source of exposure for you too.---------Jackie ---------And I totally understand how frustrating it is to not be able to do what you used to do. ------------Jackie 2. My first amalgam was at the age of 8 or 9. My teeth were steadily filled from then on I still have my wisdom teeth. I have never had a brace. I have had/got a front bridge since I was 20 years old. I have had some root canals (not sure when). I have also had 2 more bridges fitted about 2 years ago, and this was when I first started getting ill, as unbeknown to me, at the time, in order to fit the bridges they were drilling out mercury fillings, without any precautions. The last of this dental work was carried out in April 07 when the dentist was drilling away at my teeth and no-one was sucking out the debris and before I had the chance to spit, I swallowed half the stuff in my mouth, when I finally got to spit I saw that it was all old amalgam fillings ground up, this alarmed me as I had heard that amalgam can be dangerous, but didn't realize it had mercury in it. 6 weeks later I started to get symptoms. ----------Even without it showing up in your hair test now, these symptoms after exposure does tell you that mercury is/was a problem for you, or it was enough to tip you over the edge. And this sounds like it was a fairly large exposure too. It is always so disheartening to hear stories like this, when it could have easily been avoided, if the dentist would have known better.-----------Jackie 3. I still have a front bridge. My other bridges have been removed and three amalgams underneath have also been taken out. I have also had my root canal teeth removed, this was all done by a mercury free dentist, hopefully safely, but all he used was 5 IV Vit C's during my dental work, oxygen mask on my nose, high powered suction, and special drill bit to break up the amalgam, but NO rubber dam. ---------------My dentist used something called the " cleanup tool " , and not a rubber dam, which the IAOMT says is safe to do. I didn't feel like I swallowed anything during the removals, so hopefully they did a good job, and you're ok in that respect.-----------Jackie The problem is since this work was carried out my symptoms have got worse. I couldn't breathe through the nose mask very well and felt I was breathing through my mouth!!. They also made a silly statement that - they said that the 5 IV Vit C's would of got rid of nearly all the mercury from my body, after this I lost confidence in them - even though he is a member of the IAOMT. -----------The Vit C IV's are helpful, in that it is an antioxidant, and will help with the oxidative stress caused by the mercury vapor released from the removals, but no, it does not chelate, and won't get rid of the mercury in your body, just help you deal with the effects of it. It seems that the dentists need to stick to removal, and leave chelation to those that understand it better.---------Jackie 4. My mother lost all her teeth before I was born. 5. Polio, TB, Smallpox and Diphtheria were all given to me when I was at school, not sure when. I have also had a few tetanus injections, the last one being approx. 10 years ago. 6. The supps I have been taking daily are Vit C 3 gms, Aloe Vera 10000mg (50mg extract) 6 tabs, Superantioxidant 3 tabs, Grapefruit seed extract 30 drops, B50 complex 1 tab, Probiotic 1 tab, Adult MultiVit and Mineral 1 tab, Milk thistle complex 150mg 3 tabs. I was taking all of these when the hair test was done. ----------As I stated before, these may have helped to normalize your hair test, and/or you may just be less prone to deranged mineral transport, and/or be a better excretor of mercury than some of us. But the large exposure you had, still certainly affected your health, and was probably just too much all at once for your body to deal with.----------Jackie 7. I have now stopped all the above supps and have started on the basic Cutler supps list. So far I have introduced the Vit C, Zinc (elemental) and B50. ----------Good. Andy's top four are zinc, magnesium, Vit C and E. But keep adding others, especially as you read about your specific metal problems and your symptoms.-----------Jackie I have just completed a week sulphur free exclusion diet and feel it has made no difference. ------------Good that you tested this. How did you feel when you added back sulphur foods? Still no difference? Do you feel better if you eat *lots* of sulphur foods? Some people are very low, and do feel better when they eat lots. And some people are the opposite. With your possible blood sugar problems and different metal issues, you may feel better on a high protein/low carb diet. You could also try taking chromium picolinate with every meal also. Good luck, and keep us informed. I would be especially interested if you find sources of your exposures.----------Jackie 8. Bedfordshire, England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 > You are hair test 194. > http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html > > DeanSA > > ------------------------------ > hi jackie, i hope this is the correct way to reply to your message > Hi Dudley, > > Your hair test does not meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport, which might mean that your body handles mercury better than some of us do, and the supplements you were taking may have helped to normalize your test. Also, did I read your history right, and you've been amalgam-free since April '07 ? So possibly your body burden is down, and your hair test wouldn't show mercury that could still be in your brain. Sorry, but sometimes they aren't clear-cut! But clearly you had symptoms from improper amalgam removal, and may have been enough to push you over the edge. Especially in combination with other things. > Dudley the only thing that i can think of that may have lowered my body burden is that i was taking a product called Humet R which is supposed to be a chelator of mercury otherwise how would my body burden have gone down? so do you think that most of the mercury is in my brain? or could the test be inacurate? > When mineral transport is orderly, as in your case, then Andy says that what is in the toxic section on top usually accurately reflects what is going on in your body. And you have a number of elevated toxic metals, which are probably contributing to your health problems. I would suggest you order his Hair Test Interpretation book, so you can read up on each of these. And I would investigate your possible sources of exposure, some of which may be job-related. > Dudley what does mineral transport orderly mean? Where do i order the book from please. i have a metal pin in my toe which is made from stainless steel. would this affect anything? In my work i wouldn't have any contact with any other metals as stonemasonary is just stone and lime,theres quite a lot of dust. > The highest is antimony, which is commonly used as a flame retardant in bedding, etc., or almost anything flammable like curtains, upholstery, and carpets. I would check to see if you had any exposure from your job also. > > Some other things are elevated also, but the one I would be most concerned with would be the lead. Andy says to be concerned with lead in the yellow, and yours is. Again, I would look for sources of exposure, and again, possibly job related. HTI lists possible sources of exposure for each metal, so I do suggest you get the book. > > You have some other elevated metals, but they usually come down when you chelate and lower your body burden of the other metals. So I believe you have multiple metals contributing to your health problems, of which mercury is probably only a part of this. But, you can't safely chelate the other metals until the mercury was removed from your mouth, so it was a necessary step anyway. > > So, if you're sure *all the amalgam* is out of your mouth, then I would suggest you start chelating with DMSA, because it is the best chelator for lead, and it works for mercury too. After 3 or more months, then you can add in ALA, because this should help with the antimony, which is similar to arsenic, so chelates the same, and Andy says that ALA is the best chelator for that. > > Otherwise, your ratios look good, except your Ca/Mg is out of range, which can point to blood sugar regulation problems, so you may want to investigate that. And your test does not have the classic adrenal stress pattern, so hopefully that's ok for you. But many of us have adrenal and thyroid problems, so it's good to be aware of that, and do some testing, if you do have any symptoms. > Dudley so my adrenals and thyroid seem ok so i can start chelating? i had my blood sugar levels checked at my Drs and it was ok but this was a diabetes check so i don't know if thats the right one to check for. Dudley ca/mg is that calcium and magnesium? does out of range mean high or low, and what testing would i do for adrenols and what would the symptoms for that be? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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