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Coming up soon (it's 8:10 my time) is a segment about a child with autism

on the Today Show. Apparently she was helped with intensive music

therapy. I just wanted to let you all know. I'll be watching, unless it

comes on after I leave.

Maggie

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I only caught the end but it sounded very encouraging! Did anyone get the name

of the therapy?

Warm Regards

& ASD 11/25/00 in Maine

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Coming up soon (it's 8:10 my time) is a segment about a child with autism

on the Today Show. Apparently she was helped with intensive music

therapy. I just wanted to let you all know. I'll be watching, unless it

comes on after I leave.

Maggie

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http://www.msnbc.com/news/909205.asp

Alfred Tomatis, who theorized that autistic children have under-developed inner

ears that can be re-trained through intensive sound therapy.

While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered me.

I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens daughter

has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a typical

school.

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>> Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy,

> receives only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical

> school. And he is NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

>

> I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Usually, when someone says " cured " , they mean that a child no longer

meets the DSM criteria for a diagnosis of autism. Many of these kids

continue to have significant challenges however...things like ADHD,

DSI, or pragmatic language disorder, and may require support of one

kind or another off and on for years.

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I don't know what cured means. The impression I got from watching her on the

show is that she considered her daughter " cured " . The show is more then likely

slanted anyway to give that impression.

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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>>bothered by the claims of miracle cures<< I am still new to most of this

however I was bothered also. There was a clip on the girl on home video saying

" I love you " but she never made eye contact and 4 seems very young to stop all

therapy. Just my humble opinion since I am new

Warm Regards

& ASD 11/25/00 in Maine

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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>>Just my humble opinion since I am new<< I should add that I will still read

all about it because one just never knows LOL...I am pathetic LOL

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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We stopped all therapy with Greggory at 4 yrs old. Every child is different. At

5 yrs old Alec can say I love you But I would never dream of him being able to

stop all therapies at this point.

Jacquie H

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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I think you are right Raena. Most people think of cured as not meeting criteria.

As for me I don't think cured is a good word. Like how would I cure Greggory

from himself? And Greggory has not met criteria for years and is is still very

much autistic.

Jacquie H

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>> Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy,

> receives only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical

> school. And he is NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

>

> I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Usually, when someone says " cured " , they mean that a child no longer

meets the DSM criteria for a diagnosis of autism. Many of these kids

continue to have significant challenges however...things like ADHD,

DSI, or pragmatic language disorder, and may require support of one

kind or another off and on for years.

Raena

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Jacquie,

I am curious...how old is now? What grade is he in? How would you

say that the autism affects his life before and after therapy? I don't

believe in miracle cures either. I think they give false hope.

Maggie

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>>We stopped all therapy with Greggory at 4 yrs old<< Sorry I am just putting my

foot in my mouth alot lately :-(....You know how us new youngin types are...I

didn't even know that stopping therapy was an option so young. I have so much to

learn....So my goal is for to start K mainstream without an aide...Now I

think I have a new goal.

Sorry if I offended you.

Warm Regards

& ASD 11/25/00 in Maine

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the

womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now in

a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he

is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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You are fine! Really/ Nothing much bothers me so never worry of offending me. :)

I am an oldtimer when it comes to autism. LOL Well I have 5 yrs under my belt

with a dx for Greggory and 4 yrs with Alec. Every child is different. Every

child's needs are different. The last time we all compared ATEC scores Greggory

came up with the lowest score and Alec the highest score. Ack! they are my kids.

They have the same parents and the same family and the same dx! I know all too

well that what is appropriate for some kids is not for all kids. Just something

to remember. Especially if you ever feel pressured to do something or not do

something for your child. :)

Jacquie H

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show

bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the

womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now

in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy, receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And he

is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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----- . Like how would I cure Greggory from himself?

You can't and I think that is what bothers me when shows like this say things

so broad. The mother does not mention that the child still does x and x but has

improved because of this therapy. Instead they call it a miracle cure.

I don't believe in cures. I believe in therapy and I believe that with therapy

that children can learn to function within normal limits in today's society.

They will always be quirky and have some difficulties but the ultimate goal is

quality of life.

Why can't someone just say the therapy has increase my child's quality of life

and We hope that it continues into the future.

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>>Just something to remember<< Thanks, you are so right. This spectrum is so

hard for me to get my head around. I just get to the point where I think I know

and then something else comes along. Just seeing my husband's nephew and

together showed me how different dealing with each ASD child is. I need to shake

the whole " black and white " approach I have always lived by (its an accounting

thing)...

Warm Regards

& ASD 11/25/00 in Maine

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>

> While I like the idea of music therapy something about the show

bothered

me. I'm always bothered by the claims of miracle cures. I'm glad the

womens

daughter has been discharged from all therapy, all services and is now

in a

typical school.

>

Just for the record: my son's been discharged from all therapy,

receives

only OT consults every 3 months now, and is in a typical school. And

he is

NOT cured, and he is DEFINITELY autistic.

I'd like to know how people define 'cured'.

Jacquie

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I don't understand the next question though -- do you mean what was he

like

before, compared to now? Or do you mean how much did it impact his

functioning before and how much does it now? Or was therapy worth it?

I

want to answer, but I want to be sure of what I'm answering! LOL.

Jacquie

Yes! All three, lol, if that's okay. Has had any sensory

integration therapy as well? I'm pursuing it for --I'm wondering

if it's worth it. And by the way, I think it is very impressive for

AND you that he is mainstreamed and no longer needing extra services.

Maggie

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> Jacquie,

>

> I am curious...how old is now? What grade is he in? How would you

> say that the autism affects his life before and after therapy? I don't

> believe in miracle cures either. I think they give false hope.

is 6 1/2; he'll be 7 at the end of August. He's in first grade.

I don't understand the next question though -- do you mean what was he like

before, compared to now? Or do you mean how much did it impact his

functioning before and how much does it now? Or was therapy worth it? I

want to answer, but I want to be sure of what I'm answering! LOL.

Jacquie

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> I think you are right Raena. Most people think of cured as not meeting

criteria. As for me I don't think cured is a good word. Like how would I

cure Greggory from himself? And Greggory has not met criteria for years and

is is still very much autistic.

> Jacquie H

Yeah, doesn't fit the classic dsm criteria for autism any longer

either. But there's a HUGE gap between him and NT, which is what people

claiming 'cure' always seem to be inferring...

Jacquie

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Even if when I go to the ped and she said " she's cured " (not going to happen)

I wouldn't stop therapy until 7 at the earliest. Alot of my friends have

said that there kids regressed when the " work " at school got harder at this

age.

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> I don't believe in cures. I believe in therapy and I believe that with

therapy that children can learn to function within normal limits in today's

society. They will always be quirky and have some difficulties but the

ultimate goal is quality of life.

>

> Why can't someone just say the therapy has increase my child's quality

of life and We hope that it continues into the future.

>

I think the word 'cure' takes away the feelings of fear that are inherent in

our lives. Fear of the future, fear of the unknown, fear of not doing

enough, not being enough... To say 'my child is cured' is to say, 'we have

nothing more to be afraid of. we've beaten the demon.' Unfortunately, this

is cowardly. IMHO, anyway.

The strong and courageous are able to say 'he's not cured, but therapy has

increased my child's quality of life and we hope it continues into the

future.'

Jacquie

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I totally agree! had more trouble with his sensory and social as he

moved up in elementary and the stress increased!

Sue

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> Even if when I go to the ped and she said " she's cured " (not going to

happen)

> I wouldn't stop therapy until 7 at the earliest. Alot of my friends have

> said that there kids regressed when the " work " at school got harder at

this

> age.

>

>

>

>

>

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Today Show

> > Importance: High

> >

> > June 9, 2003

> >

> > TO: All Chapters

> >

> > FROM: Pietrasanta

> > Vice President of Communications

> > and

> > Tobin

> > Director of Media Relations

> >

> > RE: Today Show

> >

> >

> >

> > We have received word that on Wednesday, June 11, NBC's Today show will

be

> > airing a segment on the dietary supplement glutathione, and its

potential

> > application for CF. Glutathione -- in pill form or when aerosolized --

may

> > have a therapeutic benefit in the lungs of people with CF. The piece

will

> > include interviews with Hudson, a mother from Utah who has three

> > children with CF, and Dr. Preston , executive vice president for

> > medical affairs at the CF Foundation, among others.

> >

> > It is important to note that glutathione -- while promising -- is still

in

> > the early stages of development as a treatment for CF and has not been

> > approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for clinical use.

Any

> > existing data on glutathione and CF is still preliminary. Using

therapies

> > that are not FDA-approved can present serious health risks to

individuals

> > with CF and should not be included in a therapeutic regimen without the

> > express consent of their CF physician.

> >

> > Please note that the airdate of this TV segment is subject to change. If

> > we learn that it will be rescheduled, we will let you know.

> >

> > We are in the process of creating a letter to patients and families, as

> > well as a Q & A document, that can be distributed to those who inquire

about

> > glutathione. We will send these to you as soon as possible after the

> > segment airs and also will post these materials on our Web site. As

> > always, people with CF should consult their CF physician before starting

> > any new therapy or halting an existing one.

> >

> >

> > M. Pietrasanta

> > Vice President of Communications

> > Cystic Fibrosis Foundation

> > 6931 Arlington Road

> > Bethesda, MD 20814

> >

> > (800) FIGHT CF

> > Fax:

> > Web site <http://www.cff.org>

> > E-mail: cpiet@...

> >

> > Please help the CF Foundation to raise awareness about CF in your

> > community and the strides being made toward a cure for this disease,

which

> > affects tens of thousands of Americans.

> >

> > Visit www.cff.org or call (800) FIGHT CF to learn more about the

services

> > and programs available to people with CF.

> >

> > By contributing your time, talent and enthusiasm to the CF Foundation,

you

> > can make a difference. Together, we are adding tomorrows every day to

the

> > lives of people with CF.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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this date has been changed BUT no new date has been given yet . It will

be posted

Fw: Today Show

Importance: High

Today Show

> > Importance: High

> >

> > June 9, 2003

> >

> > TO: All Chapters

> >

> > FROM: Pietrasanta

> > Vice President of Communications

> > and

> > Tobin

> > Director of Media Relations

> >

> > RE: Today Show

> >

> >

> >

> > We have received word that on Wednesday, June 11, NBC's Today show

> > will

be

> > airing a segment on the dietary supplement glutathione, and its

potential

> > application for CF. Glutathione -- in pill form or when aerosolized

> > --

may

> > have a therapeutic benefit in the lungs of people with CF. The piece

will

> > include interviews with Hudson, a mother from Utah who has

> > three children with CF, and Dr. Preston , executive vice

> > president for medical affairs at the CF Foundation, among others.

> >

> > It is important to note that glutathione -- while promising -- is

> > still

in

> > the early stages of development as a treatment for CF and has not

> > been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for clinical

> > use.

Any

> > existing data on glutathione and CF is still preliminary. Using

therapies

> > that are not FDA-approved can present serious health risks to

individuals

> > with CF and should not be included in a therapeutic regimen without

> > the express consent of their CF physician.

> >

> > Please note that the airdate of this TV segment is subject to

> > change. If we learn that it will be rescheduled, we will let you

> > know.

> >

> > We are in the process of creating a letter to patients and families,

> > as well as a Q & A document, that can be distributed to those who

> > inquire

about

> > glutathione. We will send these to you as soon as possible after the

> > segment airs and also will post these materials on our Web site. As

> > always, people with CF should consult their CF physician before

> > starting any new therapy or halting an existing one.

> >

> >

> > M. Pietrasanta

> > Vice President of Communications

> > Cystic Fibrosis Foundation

> > 6931 Arlington Road

> > Bethesda, MD 20814

> >

> > (800) FIGHT CF

> > Fax:

> > Web site <http://www.cff.org>

> > E-mail: cpiet@...

> >

> > Please help the CF Foundation to raise awareness about CF in your

> > community and the strides being made toward a cure for this disease,

which

> > affects tens of thousands of Americans.

> >

> > Visit www.cff.org or call (800) FIGHT CF to learn more about the

services

> > and programs available to people with CF.

> >

> > By contributing your time, talent and enthusiasm to the CF

> > Foundation,

you

> > can make a difference. Together, we are adding tomorrows every day

> > to

the

> > lives of people with CF.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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