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DEBBIE

katie is having a horrible time as well> she " s just getting use to her new

classes plus a month of no formal ot or speech> i get behind her and hold

her arms at her sides> it " s not funny at all> it makes me so sad i don " t

know how i get threw the day> my happy little girl is screaming and slapping

me over and over> when she " s not busy flushing the damn toilet> hang in

there i " m with you>>> sometimes you just need to wait it out>

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Hi everyone. Sorry if this comes out sounding like a vent. It's not my

intention. First I will say that I love my children....ya gotta believe me -

LOL.

Ok - seriously, Evan's rages/meltdowns/tantrums (whatever you want to call them)

are getting so much worse. By worse I mean lasting longer and/or more violent.

I don't even know what to do anymore. I'm sure when you read " violent " you

probably thought I was crazy. Yes, I know he's only 4.5 years old and I am MUCH

bigger than him. But when he is having one of those meltdowns, his strength is

beyond belief. I've been kicked and bitten and punched - all within 15 minutes.

I am so confused. Am I doing something worse? Why are they getting worse now.

He's doing so well in school. He's actually starting to say things every once

in a while without being prompted and he's becoming more open with people. So

what is going on? Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better while

another part is getting worse??

Love, prayers and heart hugs,

Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum Disorder,

Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3 angel babies

whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

9:1-3

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Debbie,

We believe you about the rages and violence. A lot of our kids have gone

through that and some still are.

It is possible that he's behaving the way he is because of the forward

progress he's making. However, if it continues, you may have to talk to his

Dr. about it and possibly medication. I think that is probably the reason

most of us have finally gone the medication route for our kids. I know the

aggression is why I first did that! Also, frustration can lead to tantrums

too, so if you can find anything in particular that is bothering him, you

could try to remove it.

Hang in there!

Sue

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I'm not getting the originals and it's VERY frustrating !!!

ellen

Re: Help, please, before I pull all of my hair

out.....

>Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part

is

getting worse??

>

Yes yes YES.

It has ALWAYS been our experience here. And when you listed all the

progress he's making at the end there, I thought to myself, " well, THAT'S

why! "

Sorry I have no productive advice, though -- was never violent, so it

was tolerable just to wait it out.

Jacquie

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>Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part is

getting worse??

>

Yes yes YES.

It has ALWAYS been our experience here. And when you listed all the

progress he's making at the end there, I thought to myself, " well, THAT'S

why! "

Sorry I have no productive advice, though -- was never violent, so it

was tolerable just to wait it out.

Jacquie

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In a message dated 5/8/03 4:03:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Anglhrtsmom@... writes:

> So what is going on? Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better

> while another part is getting worse??

>

>

I don't know but I understand-(((Debbie Evan & Family))))

The Grammas & Keion

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I know exactly how you feel. Micki (8) has been having

uncontrollable rages lately. When she has them both me and my wife

have problems holding her down so she dosen't hurt herself. When we

do this we get scratched and bit and hit. We have come to just

finding a place where she will be the least hurt and cause the least

damage and let her ride out the rage.

It was getting to the point that if something was not done we were

going to have to find someplace else to have Micki live until we

could get her the help she needed.

My wife and I talked to a Developmental Ped this past Monday and he

is probably going to put her on Resperdal (sp?). We take Micki to

see him on Monday. (Only 4 more days!!! :) From what I have heard and

read it is amazing in controlling the rages.

She does also have frustration tantrums also, but hopefully we can

resolve those if we can calm her down a little bit.

Hope this helps.

Good luck and keep everyone up to date.

Wilhelm

MickisDaddy

8 yo recently diagnosed Autism and Mental Retardation

> Hi everyone. Sorry if this comes out sounding like a vent. It's

not my intention. First I will say that I love my children....ya

gotta believe me - LOL.

>

> Ok - seriously, Evan's rages/meltdowns/tantrums (whatever you want

to call them) are getting so much worse. By worse I mean lasting

longer and/or more violent. I don't even know what to do anymore.

I'm sure when you read " violent " you probably thought I was crazy.

Yes, I know he's only 4.5 years old and I am MUCH bigger than him.

But when he is having one of those meltdowns, his strength is beyond

belief. I've been kicked and bitten and punched - all within 15

minutes. I am so confused. Am I doing something worse? Why are

they getting worse now. He's doing so well in school. He's actually

starting to say things every once in a while without being prompted

and he's becoming more open with people. So what is going on? Is

this common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part

is getting worse??

>

> Love, prayers and heart hugs,

>

> Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum

Disorder, Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and

my 3 angel babies whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

>

> 9:1-3

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Oh yes, Debbie, I have been there, and I completely understand how a toddler

can be threatening and dangerous. n can be that way and he is much

younger than Evan. I can tell you that in our house, we immediately isolate

n when he gets aggressive. The trick is to get him in his room at the

first signs of aggression before he gets out of control. If he is too out

of control to take upstairs, then I put myself in a locked room and wait it

out. n only has access to the living room and dining room downstairs

and his bedroom upstairs, so there are plenty of places to go if I need to

remove myself.

As I think someone else mentioned, periods of aggression are frequently

followed by big leaps forward developmentally. I hope that will be a silver

lining for you - - I know it is no fun now. Hang in there, and let us know

if we can help.

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 12 weeks

Help, please, before I pull all of my hair

out.....

> Hi everyone. Sorry if this comes out sounding like a vent. It's not my

intention. First I will say that I love my children....ya gotta believe

me - LOL.

>

> Ok - seriously, Evan's rages/meltdowns/tantrums (whatever you want to call

them) are getting so much worse. By worse I mean lasting longer and/or more

violent. I don't even know what to do anymore. I'm sure when you read

" violent " you probably thought I was crazy. Yes, I know he's only 4.5 years

old and I am MUCH bigger than him. But when he is having one of those

meltdowns, his strength is beyond belief. I've been kicked and bitten and

punched - all within 15 minutes. I am so confused. Am I doing something

worse? Why are they getting worse now. He's doing so well in school. He's

actually starting to say things every once in a while without being prompted

and he's becoming more open with people. So what is going on? Is this

common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part is getting

worse??

>

> Love, prayers and heart hugs,

>

> Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum

Disorder, Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3

angel babies whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

>

> 9:1-3

>

>

>

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>>>>>>>

Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part is

getting worse??

Love, prayers and heart hugs,

Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum Disorder,

Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3 angel

babies whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

9:1-3

<<<<<<<<<

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!

This will pass. It probably won't go entirely away, (Jacqui is 8 and still

rages), but you aren't doing anything wrong.

There is a lot going on in his brain, and if he's trying to talk more, it's

quite possible that he's working overtime to get things sorted out.

Hang in there. Keep him and yourself safe. Try to find something that will

help him calm himself...not always an easy task...

Penny

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>>>>>>>

Is this common for one part of the ASD to get better while another part is

getting worse??

Love, prayers and heart hugs,

Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum Disorder,

Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3 angel

babies whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

9:1-3

<<<<<<<<<

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!

This will pass. It probably won't go entirely away, (Jacqui is 8 and still

rages), but you aren't doing anything wrong.

There is a lot going on in his brain, and if he's trying to talk more, it's

quite possible that he's working overtime to get things sorted out.

Hang in there. Keep him and yourself safe. Try to find something that will

help him calm himself...not always an easy task...

Penny

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LOL.....I am assuming you think that other parents and people wouldnt understand

a 4.5 yr old being vieolent and not us. Right? ;) Alec has been violent since I

can remember. Started when he was 6 months old and he would attack and hurt

Greggory to see the reaction and laugh. I thought it was a baby thing but it

never stopped and only ever got worse. :( Greggory has never been violent. So I

don't know how much of that is a personality thing or a disorder or what. Have

you thought about meds? Anything new going on? I wish I could help.

Jacquie H

Help, please, before I pull all of my hair

out.....

Hi everyone. Sorry if this comes out sounding like a vent. It's not my

intention. First I will say that I love my children....ya gotta believe me -

LOL.

Ok - seriously, Evan's rages/meltdowns/tantrums (whatever you want to call

them) are getting so much worse. By worse I mean lasting longer and/or more

violent. I don't even know what to do anymore. I'm sure when you read

" violent " you probably thought I was crazy. Yes, I know he's only 4.5 years old

and I am MUCH bigger than him. But when he is having one of those meltdowns,

his strength is beyond belief. I've been kicked and bitten and punched - all

within 15 minutes. I am so confused. Am I doing something worse? Why are they

getting worse now. He's doing so well in school. He's actually starting to say

things every once in a while without being prompted and he's becoming more open

with people. So what is going on? Is this common for one part of the ASD to

get better while another part is getting worse??

Love, prayers and heart hugs,

Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum Disorder,

Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3 angel babies

whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

9:1-3

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