Re: crying day - long sob story

May 10, 2003

Another person I need to bitch slap. On second thought, I think I'll

borrow Georga's sword. I'm so sorry this happened to you and Rowan,

. Since you have already discussed these issues and Mrs. Day is

not accomodating you, can you go higher up the chain of command? I also

recommend writing Mrs. Day a letter expressing your concerns. It may not

help, but at least you will have documentation (make a copy of the letter

for yourself). My AIM screenname is AutumnIndigo and my MSN is

autumnindigo@... if you ever need to talk.

Maggie

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May 10, 2003

he wasn't there. i

> asked mrs. day where he was. she said he had to be taken out of the

> classroom because he was fussing and making too much noise. we have rule

> that rowan is never taken out - obviously to avoid reinforcing the

> behaviour - we have been over this a million times with mrs day.

Oh, why are they so STUPID that they can't see this. Putter's bus driver

yesterday (LONG post on this that I need to write) suggested that I drive

Putter to school since he was having a tantrum. Oh, yes, lady, and Putter

is smart as a whip and just what would his wicked little brain make of THAT!

i tried the library and sure enough rowan and jason were

> there curled up on the sofa reading a book.

Ah, now I expect he will behave better in the future since he got this

terrible treatment

jason said rowan struggled and

> complained for about 20 seconds about putting his shoes back on - that was

> it. jason said mrs. day was all stressed about the possibility of rowan

> continuing to make noise through the concert.

Grr. Idiot.

these little shows are very

> important to mrs day and she plans 2 or 3 a month. she expects the

children

> to perform perfectly. in the past, not really rowan's shining moments as

he

> stands there flapping his hands and humming. mrs day finds this

upsetting

> as it takes attention away from the other children.

How? If they see him up there regularly they will grow used to it and

hardly notice at all. NT minds are GOOD at filtering things out.

> it gets worse..... rowan was scheduled to be " the special person "

yesterday.

> i am sure other classes have similar schemes - this child does attendance

> and calendar etc and brings show and tell.

Yes, Putter does this and he always performs well on his day.

the class gets to ask 5 W

> questions for show and tell i.e what is it?, where did you get it? etc.

> rowan and i practiced his answers the night before and again in the

> morning - i wrote a little index card of prompts in case he got stuck. i

> was so proud of him - he knew most of the answers before we even began to

> practice. i was excited for his peers to see this - they are all so

pleased

> when rowan speaks. well, mrs day decided they didn't have time to do the

> special person show and tell

I am sorry, this woman IS EVIL (I am sorry that I called you nn evil critter

for writing a long post because I would have had to write immediately if I

had had a day like this too.) How dare she do that to a spectrum child? Or

any child.

because some people were still struggling with

> the mother's days songs and they needed more rehearsal time! wtf??? the

> school day is 6 fucking hours long and she couldn't spare two minutes for

> the little boy who had been arduously practicing for his special day??

GRRRRRRRRRRRR

any

> other child would have asked " when do i get to do my show and tell? " she

> took advantage of the fact that rowan cannot. i hate her!

I hate her too.

> we left. we didn't stick around for the concert. my mother's day gift is

> still sitting on his desk. mrs day may find rowan to be a challenge but

you

> know what teaching is the challenge she chose and she is compensated for

> this work. rowan has challenges too and he sure as hell didn't choose

them.

> she was very upset that we were leaving.

Good.

i hope she lays awake at night

> thinking about how disgustingly she behaved.

I bet she won't. She sounds way too insensitive to do that. Geez. What a

fiend.

> if you have read this far thanks for the use of your shoulder :'o(

>

Sorry, and poor mistreated Rowan. What an awful day.

Salli

May 10, 2003

I am just downright upset about this for you. I JUST posted last

week about how wonderful the families and children reacted to another

severely autistic boy in my daughter's class during their concert.

Sure, he was disruptive, loudly grunting, standing up at the wrong

time, flapping...but nobody stared and the girls even waved and

smiled and said hi to him. It sounds to me like that teacher doesn't

want to deal with him at all. Why does she feel it appropriate to

remove him from the class when it's been discussed already NOT to?

And about the show and tell, oh I'd be LIVID! I think Sissi should

give you some good ideas on how to fight back. She's really good at

it (MY HERO).

I haven't followed your story, I'm sorry, so I don't know if you've

laid into this school, teacher, principal, superintendent before or

what, and I dont' know Canadian laws on the subject. I do so hope

you can express yourself to them and let it be known on no certain

terms will this be tolerated!

Sending utter bitchdom your way, so you can forward it on to the

appropriate people.

> i had one yesterday. you know how it is - you are going merrily

along

> thinking this life's not so bad after and someone decides to piss

on your

> parade. well yesterday rowan's bitch of a teacher did a good job in

> reminding me that my son, by no fault of his own, will have to put

up

> intolerance and ignorance for the rest of his life.

> yesterday rowan's class was having a mother's day tea at 2 in the

> afternoon. i arrived at his classroom at about 10 to 2. he wasn't

there. i

> asked mrs. day where he was. she said he had to be taken out of the

> classroom because he was fussing and making too much noise. we have

rule

> that rowan is never taken out - obviously to avoid reinforcing the

> behaviour - we have been over this a million times with mrs

day. " michelle

> we are about to have a concert here and he can't behave like

that " she

> said she had sent him to the principal's office with jason (college

student

> on placement) to phone me. it turns out rowan's regular aid was

called out

> on an emergency from her son's school. i went to the office they

hadn't seen

> rowan or jason. i tried the library and sure enough rowan and

jason were

> there curled up on the sofa reading a book. jason said rowan

struggled and

> complained for about 20 seconds about putting his shoes back on -

that was

> it. jason said mrs. day was all stressed about the possibility of

rowan

> continuing to make noise through the concert. these little shows

are very

> important to mrs day and she plans 2 or 3 a month. she expects the

children

> to perform perfectly. in the past, not really rowan's shining

moments as he

> stands there flapping his hands and humming. mrs day finds this

upsetting

> as it takes attention away from the other children.

> it gets worse..... rowan was scheduled to be " the special person "

yesterday.

> i am sure other classes have similar schemes - this child does

attendance

> and calendar etc and brings show and tell. the class gets to ask

5 W

> questions for show and tell i.e what is it?, where did you get it?

etc.

> rowan and i practiced his answers the night before and again in the

> morning - i wrote a little index card of prompts in case he got

stuck. i

> was so proud of him - he knew most of the answers before we even

began to

> practice. i was excited for his peers to see this - they are all

so pleased

> when rowan speaks. well, mrs day decided they didn't have time to

do the

> special person show and tell because some people were still

struggling with

> the mother's days songs and they needed more rehearsal time!

wtf??? the

> school day is 6 fucking hours long and she couldn't spare two

minutes for

> the little boy who had been arduously practicing for his special

day?? any

> other child would have asked " when do i get to do my show and

tell? " she

> took advantage of the fact that rowan cannot. i hate her!

> we left. we didn't stick around for the concert. my mother's day

gift is

> still sitting on his desk. mrs day may find rowan to be a

challenge but you

> know what teaching is the challenge she chose and she is

compensated for

> this work. rowan has challenges too and he sure as hell didn't

choose them.

> she was very upset that we were leaving. i hope she lays awake at

night

> thinking about how disgustingly she behaved.

> if you have read this far thanks for the use of your shoulder :'o(

>

> M.G.mum to

> Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

> Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

> married to and living in Northern Ontario

> .

May 10, 2003

jason said mrs. day was all stressed about the possibility of rowan

> continuing to make noise through the concert. these little shows are very

> important to mrs day and she plans 2 or 3 a month. she expects the

children

> to perform perfectly. in the past, not really rowan's shining moments as

he

> stands there flapping his hands and humming. mrs day finds this

upsetting

> as it takes attention away from the other children.

, I think you need to talk to this teacher. It sounds to me like

she has, um, " issues " . I understand that these little shows are important

to her. But she is there to serve the kids, not for her to use the kids to

perform like trained seals and elicit parental praise for the gratification

of her ego (sorry, that's how I see it). It would be one thing if the

activity was bothering Rowan, but if he is comfortable he should be able to

flap, spin, and chirp to his heart's content.

imho, I think she is setting a terrible example for the other children. And

what a crappy thing to do and say to you about your child. sheesh!

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 12 weeks

May 10, 2003

,

Oh, I'm SO sorry for you and Rowan!!!!!! That just ISN'T fair. This

teacher just doesn't " get it " . I wish you could send her here for 's

teacher to train. She'd get her in shape REALLY fast! I wish there were

some way I could give you and Rowan a big hug!!! I also second having Sissi

help you write a letter AND borrowing Georga's sword. Seriously though,

this woman NEEDS to listen to you or SOMEBODY on what is acceptable and what

isn't with regards to Rowan. It isn't right, and it is teaching the other

kids the wrong thing.

{{{{ & Rowan}}}}

ellen

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May 10, 2003

(((((((( and Rowan))))))))

That was awful of her. I guess she doesn't get it that her job is a

TEACHER....and every day she must act like one. So what lesson did removing

Rowan from the classroom TEACH him?? I'm sure not a very good one. I'm so

sorry you had such an awful day. And I agree, I hope the " teacher " feels awful

about what she did.

Debbie E

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Date: 2003/05/10 Sat AM 11:16:32 EDT

To: <parenting_autism >

Subject: crying day - long sob story

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May 10, 2003

Maybe you should write her about how her behavior with Rowan made you feel

and that it is unacceptable to you for her to slight your child on his

special day because he had to prepare harder for it than any of her other

children!

Sorry she had to pull this crap on both of you :-(

Hugs,

Sue

May 10, 2003

Oh, MICHELLE. (((hugs)))

What a BITCH. What a heartless, cruel, nasty, unempathetic BITCH. Who says

OUR KIDS are the ones who have no consideration for other people's feelings?

What consideration does SHE have for ROWAN'S feelings??????

You need to talk to the principal. And if that doesn't work, talk to the

sped principal at your school board. They can't say Rowan is in full

inclusion when he's not being included! Not to mention that removing him

from the classroom is in direct violation of his IEP, which the teacher

signed! If she wanted the option of removing him from the classroom she

should have asked for it to be in the IEP!!!!

I'm so sorry your first year of inclusion you get saddled with that bitch.

Please don't think she is the standard for regular classroom inclusion. In

three years, we've never had a teacher treat that way. Next year will

be someone different, and from the sounds of it you can only go up from

here.

:-(

Jacquie

May 10, 2003

What a bitch.

The year is almost over. Aren't you glad?

Sissi

May 10, 2003

In a message dated 5/10/03 11:18:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

michellemg69@... writes:

> if you have read this far thanks for the use of your shoulder :'o(

>

-can you imagine if your sweet boy didn't have you to look out for

him? He could have ended up with a mom like that anal-retentive control freak

teacher-yeah teaching is tough but dayum our kids deserve the SAME

considerations as any other. (((Rowan)))

The Grammas & Keion

May 10, 2003

Oh , i wish i could come knock some sense into that woman(loose term

there, grrrr). I just had to do the Mothers tea thing myself this week and as

'nice " as it was it still felt like watching a side show or something. Yes, it

is cute, but still...As to the bitch from hell teacher, look on the bright

side..school is almost out and you will not have to deal with her again..have

you considered kind of interviewing(for lack of better word) the teachers at the

next grade up and seeing which would actually do the best and putting a request

in with the principal for that teacher? I know schools will allow that if there

is a specific reason...just a thought

Hugs

Missy

May 10, 2003

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

the school day is 6 fucking hours long and she

couldn't spare two minutes for the little boy who had

been arduously practicing for his special day??

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now that's just horrible. This woman should not be

teaching.

((( & Rowan)))

Tuna

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, 4, NT

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May 10, 2003

This reminds me.

I did this book show for this teachers aid. She works in a sped classroom.

There are 5 or 6 kids in the class, each with different disablities.

Yesterday she chased off a substitue teacher because she wasn't being fair

to the kids. I was so proud of her. The sub didn't make it past noon.

LMAO!

The kids missed library day on Thurs for some reason and she made

arrangements to take them yesterday because it is a big deal to the kids.

The sub didn't like that. Said they didn't have time to take the kids to

the library. And Betty told her that they were making Mothers Day cards.

Well, Betty got back from the library with the kids and the sub had the kids

cards done, because they didn't have time. It was schedualed that they

would have X amt of library time and X amount of card time. Betty went off

on her. YEAH! The teacher left. LOL!

She said that the teacher was yelling at the kids and everything. So glad

that Betty went off on her.

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Re: crying day - long sob story

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> the school day is 6 fucking hours long and she

> couldn't spare two minutes for the little boy who had

> been arduously practicing for his special day??

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> Now that's just horrible. This woman should not be

> teaching.

>

> ((( & Rowan)))

>

> Tuna

>

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> , 8, ASD

> , 4, NT

>

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May 10, 2003

>. these little shows are very

> important to mrs day and she plans 2 or 3 a month. she expects the

children to perform perfectly. in the past, not really rowan's

shining moments as he stands there flapping his hands and humming.

mrs day finds this upsetting as it takes attention away from the

other children.

>

What a bitch!!! She needs to be slapped. I'm not even PMSing and I'm

more than willing to take her on! DAMN! They're kids, NONE of them

are going to behave perfectly and she needs to get a grip and go

micro-manage someone else's life!

> well, mrs day decided they didn't have time to do the

> special person show and tell because some people were still

struggling with the mother's days songs and they needed more

rehearsal time! wtf???

>

My NT daughter's bitch of a 4th grade teacher pulled that shit on her

this year because she doesn't like Sami or me. I don't kiss her ass

and act like she's God. I treat her like a partner in my daughter's

education and it ticks her off to no end that I don't treat her with

awe. I don't care if her husband is a psychiatrist. OBVIOUSLY she's

not that great of a teacher or she'd be teaching at one of the snotty

schools closer to her husband's office instead of being out here in

the boonies with all of us unwashed, unintelligent red necks. :PPPP

Tina

May 10, 2003

In a message dated 5/10/03 11:18:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

michellemg69@... writes:

> i hope she lays awake at night thinking about how disgustingly she behaved.

>

Want me to come kick her ass?

Big Hug

May 10, 2003

, I am so sorry that you and Rowan had such a horrible day.

This woman is a clueless bitch and I am sorry to admit that I am a

public school teacher with people like her. Mrs. Day doesn't get the

idea of inclusion and you are right, she took advantage of the fact

that Rowan wouldn't complain. But, by God, , you can and you

should! This behavior is unprofessional and harmful and she should

be reported. I would fire off a letter to her, the principal and the

superintendent and just tell them what you told us. This woman needs

to stopped! This is outrageous! Leggs

May 10, 2003

, sorry you and your son had to go through that. Sounds like the teacher

could use a social story to me!

Warm Regards

Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99

In Maine