Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 In a message dated 5/10/03 9:18:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jbsmom@... writes: > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it > will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? > Thanks! NO NO NO NO NO PECS were a livesaver for us. I have like a gazzilion of them. I had given the first gazzilion to someone but I have some more. I actually have sheets of food that just needs to be laminated if you are interested I'll send them. started using at 2 1/2 and now a little over a year later has over 600 words. If I search around some I think I can even find the procedure for the stages of using PECS. No time like the present. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hi I believe IEP will be around the end of the month. One thing that he school case manager and I talked about were PECS but will wait until the SLP comes back from Maternity leave. is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 PECS encouraged to talk. Whenever he used the board, his aide would prompt him to say the word also. At first she would say it for him, eventually he would try to say the word himself and she would help him if he needed. He still has his PECS board; they use it in class to set out the day's schedule. PECS also helped give a sense of control over what was happening around him. Frustrati0on over not being able to communicate caused most of his early tantrums. He started PECS when he was four; I wish he'd started earlier. HTH Tuna >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one > concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal > communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? > Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===== mom to: , 8, ASD , 4, NT Normal is just a setting on the washing machine. - Whoopi Goldberg ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. No, no, and definitely no. Everyone worries about this. What floored me with Putter was when I realized just how basic and deep was his disability. He did not understand communicating at all. He did not even get the most basic notion of give and take. I have told this story here before but you were not here so I'll say it all again. When Putter was four I took him to The Autism Center at our local university. There they started him on PECS (he was also doing PECS at school, but I didn't see him there). He caught on instantly. It was really really easy for him. But the talking part was always harder for Putter. One of my strongest memories is of a therapist at The Autism Center trying to get Putter to echo a word. The therapist would say, " Cat, " or something to Putter and he would say, " Java java. " To my shock he was REWARDED with a chip for saying " Java java. " I questioned the director of The Autism Center, and I was told that he was rewarded because he understood that he was to make a sound in response. Later, when he was ready, they would work on the shaping of the sound. He did not know that humans talked back and forth. He did not know what a tiny baby knows; babies who coo back and forth with their mother knew far more than Putter. I had not realized how deep this lack was. But the physical and visualness of PECS changed all of that. Putter handed in a card with a picture and a nice written word and he got a treat. He had to say the words too and because it was pictured and written, well, he just got it. He left PECS behind long ago. The director of his classroom at his school said it was often so. They start PECS and the kids start talking. As with every technique, it doesn't work for all, but for some it is almost miraculous. And I have NEVER heard that it prevents a kid from learning to talk. If they are going to talk, PECS will help. If they are not going to talk, then PECS is useful. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 ABSOLUTELY NOT! I believe it helped to start talking. When they give you the picture of what they want, you repeat the word, it actually helps them to get the idea that words mean somehting. Same with signing. And, since it reduces the frustration level, that's a HUGE bonus. ellen PECS question Hi I believe IEP will be around the end of the month. One thing that he school case manager and I talked about were PECS but will wait until the SLP comes back from Maternity leave. is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 http://www.pecs.com/ http://trainland.tripod.com/pecs.htm http://www.pecs-uk.com/ I'll look for more. Tuna ===== mom to: , 8, ASD , 4, NT Normal is just a setting on the washing machine. - Whoopi Goldberg ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 Quite the opposite. My son will not use the pecs cards, rather he starts speaking what's on them. > Hi I believe IEP will be around the end of the month. One thing that he school case manager and I talked about were PECS but will wait until the SLP comes back from Maternity leave. > > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! > > Warm Regards > > > Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 > In Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Thanks Everyone! I was hoping that was going to be the answer!! Do/did your child use them both at home and school and carry them with him/her? (like to a store)? The teacher talked about a PECS book with Velcro? I haven't seen it yet. Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Re: PECS question PECS encouraged to talk. Whenever he used the board, his aide would prompt him to say the word also. At first she would say it for him, eventually he would try to say the word himself and she would help him if he needed. He still has his PECS board; they use it in class to set out the day's schedule. PECS also helped give a sense of control over what was happening around him. Frustrati0on over not being able to communicate caused most of his early tantrums. He started PECS when he was four; I wish he'd started earlier. HTH Tuna >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one > concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal > communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? > Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===== mom to: , 8, ASD , 4, NT Normal is just a setting on the washing machine. - Whoopi Goldberg ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Thanks for the offer ! I would love them however I will not know until the end of the month if the SLP thinks we should go the PECS route. Exactly I am the mom, can't I tell them? hmmmmm >> started using at 2 1/2 and now a little over a year later has over 600 words.<< uses 600 words?? Wow that is so exciting, I hope gets there!! Thanks again!! Re: PECS question In a message dated 5/10/03 9:18:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jbsmom@... writes: > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it > will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? > Thanks! NO NO NO NO NO PECS were a livesaver for us. I have like a gazzilion of them. I had given the first gazzilion to someone but I have some more. I actually have sheets of food that just needs to be laminated if you are interested I'll send them. started using at 2 1/2 and now a little over a year later has over 600 words. If I search around some I think I can even find the procedure for the stages of using PECS. No time like the present. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 What Salli said ... : ) the important thing is that the kids learn what communication is ... whether it is verbal of pictoral is unimportant. Also, your quality of life will improve *drastically* once your child can communicate just a few basic things. Any tool you can use to facilitate this is a good thing in my opinion. Re: PECS question > > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it > will deter verbal communication. > > No, no, and definitely no. > > Everyone worries about this. What floored me with Putter was when I > realized just how basic and deep was his disability. > > He did not understand communicating at all. He did not even get the most > basic notion of give and take. > > I have told this story here before but you were not here so I'll say it all > again. When Putter was four I took him to The Autism Center at our local > university. There they started him on PECS (he was also doing PECS at > school, but I didn't see him there). > > He caught on instantly. It was really really easy for him. But the talking > part was always harder for Putter. One of my strongest memories is of a > therapist at The Autism Center trying to get Putter to echo a word. The > therapist would say, " Cat, " or something to Putter and he would say, " Java > java. " > > To my shock he was REWARDED with a chip for saying " Java java. " I > questioned the director of The Autism Center, and I was told that he was > rewarded because he understood that he was to make a sound in response. > Later, when he was ready, they would work on the shaping of the sound. > > He did not know that humans talked back and forth. He did not know what a > tiny baby knows; babies who coo back and forth with their mother knew far > more than Putter. I had not realized how deep this lack was. > > But the physical and visualness of PECS changed all of that. Putter handed > in a card with a picture and a nice written word and he got a treat. He had > to say the words too and because it was pictured and written, well, he just > got it. > > He left PECS behind long ago. > > The director of his classroom at his school said it was often so. They > start PECS and the kids start talking. > > As with every technique, it doesn't work for all, but for some it is almost > miraculous. > > And I have NEVER heard that it prevents a kid from learning to talk. If > they are going to talk, PECS will help. If they are not going to talk, then > PECS is useful. > > Salli > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 > Thanks Everyone! I was hoping that was going to be the answer!! Do/did your child use them both at home and school and carry them with him/her? Putter used them at school for quite a while (six months? a year? not sure, really), and The Autism Center gave us a book for home. He used it probably two months at home and then he got good results with talking so we didn't use the PECS book any more. It is still on my desk though. (like to a store)? The teacher talked about a PECS book with Velcro? I haven't seen it yet. > He didn't take it to stores. I didn't need him to tell me what he wanted in stores! Putter's communication even when non-verbal was pretty good even though he didn't even point. He always managed to let me know, LOL. Actually I hardly needed him to tell me what he wanted at home, but we were trying to get him to talk. Some kids this will be their main form of communication so they would need a pretty complex system of probably several notebooks. The other good thing about PECS is that if you use pictures with the word written on it you will encourage your child's probably incipient hyperlexia. Reading is very helpful for kids with autism as it tends to be easy for them to pick up if they are going to pick up language at all. is young and is already doing better than Putter (Putter did not have four words at two) so I would expect that would move along nicely. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Tuna said it well. The same goes for your using signing with him. Sue Re: PECS question > PECS encouraged to talk. Whenever he used the > board, his aide would prompt him to say the word also. > At first she would say it for him, eventually he would > try to say the word himself and she would help him if > he needed. He still has his PECS board; they use it in > class to set out the day's schedule. > > PECS also helped give a sense of control over > what was happening around him. Frustrati0on over not > being able to communicate caused most of his early > tantrums. > > He started PECS when he was four; I wish he'd started > earlier. > > > > HTH > > Tuna > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one > > concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal > > communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? > > Thanks! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > ===== > mom to: > , 8, ASD > , 4, NT > > Normal is just a setting on the washing machine. > - Whoopi Goldberg > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 When I first started with PECS I had to wait and wait for people to make them for me. I got sick of waiting so I went to Rite Aid and bought some food and toy board books. I put magnets on the back and laminated the front with contact paper. Then I did drills with cookies until one day the light clicked on and kept running and running to the frig to give me PECS to see what she would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 When I first started with PECS I had to wait and wait for people to make them for me. I got sick of waiting so I went to Rite Aid and bought some food and toy board books. I put magnets on the back and laminated the front with contact paper. Then I did drills with cookies until one day the light clicked on and kept running and running to the frig to give me PECS to see what she would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 In a message dated 5/11/03 7:53:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jbsmom@... writes: > Exactly I am the mom, can't I tell them? When the kids are under 3 you think that because they have a degree you should wait. But the number of hours you put in with him compared to what she does??? If you think this is the right thing you don't need to wait. It can't hurt him. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 In a message dated 5/11/03 7:53:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jbsmom@... writes: > Exactly I am the mom, can't I tell them? When the kids are under 3 you think that because they have a degree you should wait. But the number of hours you put in with him compared to what she does??? If you think this is the right thing you don't need to wait. It can't hurt him. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 > is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! I found exactly the opposite to be true. We would probably still be saying nothing BUT numbers if weren't for PECS. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 one day the light clicked on and > kept running and running to the frig to give me PECS to see what she would > get. > > I LOVE seeing the " light click " express on their face!!! Makes everything seem possible! nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Yes. Alec uses less actual spontaneous speech when he uses PECS. Of course he is much more pleasant and we know what he wants when he uses them. Ugh. Jacquie H PECS question Hi I believe IEP will be around the end of the month. One thing that he school case manager and I talked about were PECS but will wait until the SLP comes back from Maternity leave. is 2 1/2 and uses 4 words. My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 >>>>> My DH's one concern with PECs is that it will deter verbal communication. Has anyone found this to be the case? Thanks! <<<<< Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Welcome ... I'm sure people have already answered, but yes...PEC's may very well help. I know people who cut out pictures from magazines and use those.... Good luck! Penny Re: PECS question I have a non verbal autistic son who is 2 1/2 and would love to hear more about this " PECS " He is now in home threaphy with a mix of several methods of teaching ABA, sign language, etc, but his teachers have not mentioned PECS. where can I find out more about it. My son gets so frustrated at then whole family because at times we don't know what he wants. He will drag us around the house and into a room and will get so upset, because we don't understand what he wants. Do you think pecs could help?Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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