Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Can you help provide words of wisdom and advise on the following: A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old who is about to be referred to a paedatrician because she is not mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I may forward them to this Mum. The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or lying on her tummy. Obviously the Health Visitor who initially proffered a visit to the specialist is either over cautious or can see something else. As you can imagine it is a worry for the Mum when so many other Mums out there tell her not to worry because each child goes at their own pace; some concentrate on mental skills not physical first; my child was just the same etc etc etc. Perhaps you have been in the same situation yourself. What happened? Let me know Regards Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Caroline, Calvin (eldest) stood at 11m & walked unaided at 12m. Bethan didn't stand until 16m and walked a week later. However Calvin didn't talk much until he was over 2? (nothing interesting to say until then according to DH), where as Beth (just 2 last week) has been very verbal/noisy since she was born and already has a decent vocabulary (one that I can understand anyway). I didn't seek advice or referral for either child as I didn't see a need. 11m is very early to get a child referred unless the professionals can see something else, or the waiting list for referrals is very long. In which case she'll probably be walking by the time she's seen LOL! HTH, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In article <9sb846+59b0 (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>, caroline_molloy@... writes >A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old >who is about to be referred to a paedatrician because she is not >mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder >if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I >may forward them to this Mum. > >The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert >in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or >lying on her tummy. >Perhaps you have been in the same situation yourself. What happened? Not me, but one of the other babies from dd1s ANT group didn't move *at all* until he was 17 months. Perfectly OK now. Incidentally, he was one to appeared to decide to concentrate on one thing at a time - in his case teeth, which he had all of by about 18 months! It does sound rather odd to refer at 11 months. Actually, I've just realised I met a just one-year-old yesterday morning who has *just* started to commando crawl to move around - previously he was only bum-shuffling. -- Cath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 DD1 (now aged three and a half) was just the same. She was quite a placid baby and it seemed that she just could not be bothered to move. She started to crawl just before her first birthday, walked at 17 months and is fine now with her " gross motor skills " . I did not get stressed about it as I did not crawl until well after my first birthday and my younger brother beat me to walking (I was 2 years 2 months and he was 9 months!). My niece (now 19 months) was very slow to crawl, from memory she started about 13 months and is still not walking but again she is quite placid and quite content for the world to come to her. Also I know six babies born in the same month as DD2 (April 2000). Until recently she was the only one walking!! The other five all did not crawl until 11-13 months (and three have elder siblings which sometimes makes babies get on the move faster). Please tell this mum not to worry - early mobility/walking is not an indicator of intelligence, and anyway she will save a fortune in shoes! And I bet once this baby is on the move she will start to wish it sat still for five minutes!!! Francesca Bum Shufflers > Can you help provide words of wisdom and advise on the following: > > A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old > who is about to be referred to a paedatrician because she is not > mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder > if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I > may forward them to this Mum. > > The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert > in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or > lying on her tummy. > > Obviously the Health Visitor who initially proffered a visit to the > specialist is either over cautious or can see something else. > > As you can imagine it is a worry for the Mum when so many other Mums > out there tell her not to worry because each child goes at their own > pace; some concentrate on mental skills not physical first; my child > was just the same etc etc etc. > > Perhaps you have been in the same situation yourself. What happened? > > Let me know > Regards > Caroline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 > My niece (now 19 months) was very slow to crawl, from memory she > started about 13 months and is still not walking but again she is > quite placid and quite content for the world to come to her > > The child sits and reaches a lot and bum shuffles a bit. She is > alert > > in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or > > lying on her tummy. This might be the clue to it. If everything is brought to her to play with there is no need to get it for herself. It is like babys learning to talk by asking for things. The mum could start by placing things just out of reach so she has to start rocking to reach them. OTOH has Mum been depressed at all and this is 'learned ' behavior? the baby not being stimulated and encouraged to roll with play? DB did not crawl - went from bum shuffle to walking with the help of mums large German shepherd. DB used to roll onto him, grab hand full of long fur and Rupert Bear would just stand up and offer support. I was up and running by 12 months then went to crawling cos' there were less things to fall over and 4 wheel drive better for traction. DD1 cruised at 13months walked at 14months. DD2 walked at 11 months because her sister kept nicking her toys! - but then again shes always been a determined little madam and never content to let people do things for her or help. Stroppy baggage. Germain Jersey British Channel Islands 49º11'30 " N 02º06'12 " W WGS84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Caroline wrote A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old who is about to be referred to a paediatrician because she is not mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I may forward them to this Mum. One of my brothers children was like this,and was referred at 14 months for assessment which all turned out to be normal and she walked a month later,completely by-passing crawling stage.She was a happy ,chubby contented baby and seemed quite happy to sit. She is now an agile,active bright bubbly 7 year old. Most children referred will go on to develop normally as there is a huge range of normal . The paediatrician will look for any causes for delay crawling/walking (although 11 months is still fairly early for walking) and check hips etc. They will also assess general development in other areas which from what you say sounds normal. Hope this helps Kate (GP before I was a SAHM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In message <9sb846+59b0 (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>, caroline_molloy@... writes >Can you help provide words of wisdom and advise on the following: > >The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert >in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or >lying on her tummy. My DD1 never bothered with crawling, she bum shuffled (looking for all the world like she was a yogic flyer) and then walked. Nothing else (except now when she is following DD2 around - who started off bum shuffling and moved to crawling very soon after, and is showing few signs of wanting to walk at 9 months (DD2 was walking at this age)). She is, however, *very* fast, and frequently uses her mouth as a third hand (OW!) HTH Yours, -- Helen Armfield helen@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 >Can you help provide words of wisdom and advise on the following: > >A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old >who is about to be referred to a paedatrician because she is not >mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder >if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I >may forward them to this Mum. > >The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert >in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or >lying on her tummy. > >Obviously the Health Visitor who initially proffered a visit to the >specialist is either over cautious or can see something else. Has the *mother* expressed any concern (or given the impression that she is concerned when she was only making conversation!)? I say this because you mention that a referral was 'proferred' (obviously in reality it always is, you are not compelled to turn up but...) In the general scheme of things, this baby would have been seen by the HV for the 8 month developmental check and no big deal if she wasn't all that mobile at that point - so I am definitely wondering (as an ex-HV) how this referral has come to be made at 11 months. My hunch would be that it is the lack of rolling that is the interesting part. (And I think someone else has mentioned the issue of waiting times) I seem to remember that the average age for walking is later in bottom shufflers compared with conventional crawlers or 'creepers/commando crawlers' - though it sounds too early to say whether she is a real bum shuffler. Is your area one that does ultrasound neonatal hip screens? >As you can imagine it is a worry for the Mum when so many other Mums >out there tell her not to worry because each child goes at their own >pace; some concentrate on mental skills not physical first; my child >was just the same etc etc etc. Personally (I am having this problem over DS2's communication skills or lack of it, so please excuse the rant which probably isn't much help) I often find it a *monumental* pain in the neck when people tell me " Oh don't worry, they all do it in their own time " because they *don't* all. Very often it comes across as just not wanting to listen to your concern. The worst thing is people who don't see him regularly saying " Oh, before long you'll be wanting to shut him up " because they too have a listening problem and are not hearing me say that he " talks " +++, just doesn't communicate. (He is improving, slowly but honestly, if an ex-HV and an ex-education for the deaf specialist (DHs aunt who sees him fairly often and plays with him properly at that when she does) are not convinced he doesn't have a problem (nor are we convinced he *does* other than that he is clearly slower than average, you'd think people might accept that consulting the next level of specialist is worthwhile.) Sometimes people seem to equate expression of concern about a specific area as a statement that a child is globally delayed - " Oh, but he's a bright little thing " as if bright children never have problems with communication or mobility or whatever!!!! It *is* helpful to hear about others who have developed in the same way so that you don't automatically assume that it *must* be that something is wrong. Referral does not mean that anyone thinks anything *is* wrong - I think that's something very important to remember. But yes, I am fairly surprised by the referral. -- jennifer@... Vaudin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 DD2 was a bum shuffler, pulling herself along with both legs. It is much more practical than crawling because you can carry your toys with you. She walked at just over a year, but didn't learn to crawl until she was about 2! IMHO a child will move when they are ready. love Bum Shufflers Can you help provide words of wisdom and advise on the following: A lady who attends the bumps and babes group has an 11 month year old who is about to be referred to a paedatrician because she is not mobile yet. Below I have given you a bit more background and wonder if you can perhaps share some of your experiences with me so that I may forward them to this Mum. The child sits and reaches alot and bum shuffles a bit. She is alert in every other sense - just not crawling, rolling, turning 360 or lying on her tummy. Obviously the Health Visitor who initially proffered a visit to the specialist is either over cautious or can see something else. As you can imagine it is a worry for the Mum when so many other Mums out there tell her not to worry because each child goes at their own pace; some concentrate on mental skills not physical first; my child was just the same etc etc etc. Perhaps you have been in the same situation yourself. What happened? Let me know Regards Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 I was a bum shuffler. We have home film of me moving with incredible speed! I simply wasn't interested in crawling, and could get around so well on my bum that I didn't walk until I was well over 2 (and then had to be bribed with a bottle of beer, according to family legend). It's never held me back particularly and the main disadvantage seems to have been that I wore out the bum on all my trousers and had to have patches. Vicki At 22:12 07/11/01, you wrote: >DD2 was a bum shuffler, pulling herself along with both >legs. It is much more practical than crawling because >you can carry your toys with you. She walked at just >over a year, but didn't learn to crawl until she was >about 2! > >IMHO a child will move when they are ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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