Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 > How are you going to keep track of all this? It sounds like a good system > though. > Lou created a handsome chart, complete with Elvish language running along the bottom. He keeps track of when he uses each cut and of each cut that he earns. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 > How are you going to keep track of all this? It sounds like a good system > though. > Lou created a handsome chart, complete with Elvish language running along the bottom. He keeps track of when he uses each cut and of each cut that he earns. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Enrique's schedule is supposed to be a workout Monday, Wednesday and Friday, followed by on Monday school at the computer lab, on Wednesday, his AS Friends Group, and on Friday, an appointment with Telfer, autism teacher consultant. Mostly this stuff doesn't happen. He worries and worries about the workout and if he goes he cannot do anything else. It has been driving me nuts for some time. Lou has been complaining that he cannot get Enrique to do anything with him. So he wanted (who is a SCHOOL consultant, mind) to meet with him and me to discuss his parenting time. is a very nice person. She agreed even though it is nowhere in her job description. She and I had an ulterior motive. Lou's workouts were ruining some very important activities for Enrique. Now I want Enrique to do the workouts; he really needs those too, but somehow they were coming first, before school, before other appointments that seemed far more important. So Enrique and I met with before the Lou, and me meeting to discuss ways to get Lou to loosen up on Enrique so that he would not have all these workout related panic attacks. We discussed some strategies, and planned to get Lou to agree to learn to play a Gamecube game or a gameboy advance game. We talked about the reasons that Enrique does not want to go to Lou's apartment (cobwebs in the bathroom; my house may be untidy but we have NO cobwebs visible), no comfortable place to sit, no room to pace, etc. We planned to try to persuade Lou to give Enrique some measure of control over his own life and to let him make the occasional choice. We walked away from this meeting feeling fairly gloomy about persuading Lou to do anything. Last Tuesday we met with Lou. He got off to a bad start by saying that he wished I would support him better when he came to get Enrique to go to the workout. I told him he had no idea what went on before he got there, the hours of Enrique following me around begging me to get him out of the workout, the knowledge that nothing I could say would convince Lou anyway, how torn I felt between the two of them. Lou dropped it. I said that sometimes I honestly thought that Enrique would attend more workouts and more of everything if we simply left it entirely up to Enrique whether or not he could go. But I said that seemed risky too because it might not work and then he wouldn't have done a workout for ages. Lou looked thoughtful. He seemed convinced especially when described the horrible panic attack of the preceding day when she came to try to persuade Enrique to attend school that day. Then Lou suggested a plan that is truly brilliant; I gotta hand it to him. He had the idea, I worked out the details, and Lou fine tuned it some more. Everyone, Enrique included, is pleased and hopeful about it. Enrique now has a system of cuts on a quarterly basis. School happens once a week. He can miss twice on a quarterly basis. Supposedly he visits Lou once a week (I said twice but Lou, Mr. Parental Rights, knocked it down to once a week); he can miss that twice on a quarterly basis. We decided that Enrique would visit Lou on a weekend night. Lou agreed to learn Gamecube and Gameboy advance. AS Friends Group which Enrique likes, no cuts YMCA Workout, happens three times a week, six assigned cuts on a quarterly basis. meetings, once a week, two assigned cuts on a quarterly basis No cuts for miscellaneous meetings. However he starts the quarter with two extra cuts that he can use for anything, and, here is the beauty of the system, he can earn more cuts in the following ways. Four consecutive sessions of school earns one cut. Two activities with his father and another sibling earns one cut. One month's perfect visits with Lou earns a two free cuts Three consecutive workouts earns a free cut One month without using free cuts earns a free cut voluntary outdoor activity earns a free cut strenuous physical activity earns a workout cut Non-nintendo visit with Lou earns a free cut. So if he goes for a jog outside with Lou he can earn three cuts in a couple of hours! We all agreed that there must be absolutely no persuasion. Enrique simply says he is using a cut and he gets to use it. No questions asked. When he runs out he must think of one of the many ways of earning more. We are very much hoping that this will reduce Enrique's panic attacks way way down. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 That is an amazing system, I hope it works out great for all of you!! Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Enrique's Cut System Enrique's schedule is supposed to be a workout Monday, Wednesday and Friday, followed by on Monday school at the computer lab, on Wednesday, his AS Friends Group, and on Friday, an appointment with Telfer, autism teacher consultant. Mostly this stuff doesn't happen. He worries and worries about the workout and if he goes he cannot do anything else. It has been driving me nuts for some time. Lou has been complaining that he cannot get Enrique to do anything with him. So he wanted (who is a SCHOOL consultant, mind) to meet with him and me to discuss his parenting time. is a very nice person. She agreed even though it is nowhere in her job description. She and I had an ulterior motive. Lou's workouts were ruining some very important activities for Enrique. Now I want Enrique to do the workouts; he really needs those too, but somehow they were coming first, before school, before other appointments that seemed far more important. So Enrique and I met with before the Lou, and me meeting to discuss ways to get Lou to loosen up on Enrique so that he would not have all these workout related panic attacks. We discussed some strategies, and planned to get Lou to agree to learn to play a Gamecube game or a gameboy advance game. We talked about the reasons that Enrique does not want to go to Lou's apartment (cobwebs in the bathroom; my house may be untidy but we have NO cobwebs visible), no comfortable place to sit, no room to pace, etc. We planned to try to persuade Lou to give Enrique some measure of control over his own life and to let him make the occasional choice. We walked away from this meeting feeling fairly gloomy about persuading Lou to do anything. Last Tuesday we met with Lou. He got off to a bad start by saying that he wished I would support him better when he came to get Enrique to go to the workout. I told him he had no idea what went on before he got there, the hours of Enrique following me around begging me to get him out of the workout, the knowledge that nothing I could say would convince Lou anyway, how torn I felt between the two of them. Lou dropped it. I said that sometimes I honestly thought that Enrique would attend more workouts and more of everything if we simply left it entirely up to Enrique whether or not he could go. But I said that seemed risky too because it might not work and then he wouldn't have done a workout for ages. Lou looked thoughtful. He seemed convinced especially when described the horrible panic attack of the preceding day when she came to try to persuade Enrique to attend school that day. Then Lou suggested a plan that is truly brilliant; I gotta hand it to him. He had the idea, I worked out the details, and Lou fine tuned it some more. Everyone, Enrique included, is pleased and hopeful about it. Enrique now has a system of cuts on a quarterly basis. School happens once a week. He can miss twice on a quarterly basis. Supposedly he visits Lou once a week (I said twice but Lou, Mr. Parental Rights, knocked it down to once a week); he can miss that twice on a quarterly basis. We decided that Enrique would visit Lou on a weekend night. Lou agreed to learn Gamecube and Gameboy advance. AS Friends Group which Enrique likes, no cuts YMCA Workout, happens three times a week, six assigned cuts on a quarterly basis. meetings, once a week, two assigned cuts on a quarterly basis No cuts for miscellaneous meetings. However he starts the quarter with two extra cuts that he can use for anything, and, here is the beauty of the system, he can earn more cuts in the following ways. Four consecutive sessions of school earns one cut. Two activities with his father and another sibling earns one cut. One month's perfect visits with Lou earns a two free cuts Three consecutive workouts earns a free cut One month without using free cuts earns a free cut voluntary outdoor activity earns a free cut strenuous physical activity earns a workout cut Non-nintendo visit with Lou earns a free cut. So if he goes for a jog outside with Lou he can earn three cuts in a couple of hours! We all agreed that there must be absolutely no persuasion. Enrique simply says he is using a cut and he gets to use it. No questions asked. When he runs out he must think of one of the many ways of earning more. We are very much hoping that this will reduce Enrique's panic attacks way way down. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 That is an amazing system, I hope it works out great for all of you!! Warm Regards Mom to ASD 11/25/00 & 5/10/99 In Maine Enrique's Cut System Enrique's schedule is supposed to be a workout Monday, Wednesday and Friday, followed by on Monday school at the computer lab, on Wednesday, his AS Friends Group, and on Friday, an appointment with Telfer, autism teacher consultant. Mostly this stuff doesn't happen. He worries and worries about the workout and if he goes he cannot do anything else. It has been driving me nuts for some time. Lou has been complaining that he cannot get Enrique to do anything with him. So he wanted (who is a SCHOOL consultant, mind) to meet with him and me to discuss his parenting time. is a very nice person. She agreed even though it is nowhere in her job description. She and I had an ulterior motive. Lou's workouts were ruining some very important activities for Enrique. Now I want Enrique to do the workouts; he really needs those too, but somehow they were coming first, before school, before other appointments that seemed far more important. So Enrique and I met with before the Lou, and me meeting to discuss ways to get Lou to loosen up on Enrique so that he would not have all these workout related panic attacks. We discussed some strategies, and planned to get Lou to agree to learn to play a Gamecube game or a gameboy advance game. We talked about the reasons that Enrique does not want to go to Lou's apartment (cobwebs in the bathroom; my house may be untidy but we have NO cobwebs visible), no comfortable place to sit, no room to pace, etc. We planned to try to persuade Lou to give Enrique some measure of control over his own life and to let him make the occasional choice. We walked away from this meeting feeling fairly gloomy about persuading Lou to do anything. Last Tuesday we met with Lou. He got off to a bad start by saying that he wished I would support him better when he came to get Enrique to go to the workout. I told him he had no idea what went on before he got there, the hours of Enrique following me around begging me to get him out of the workout, the knowledge that nothing I could say would convince Lou anyway, how torn I felt between the two of them. Lou dropped it. I said that sometimes I honestly thought that Enrique would attend more workouts and more of everything if we simply left it entirely up to Enrique whether or not he could go. But I said that seemed risky too because it might not work and then he wouldn't have done a workout for ages. Lou looked thoughtful. He seemed convinced especially when described the horrible panic attack of the preceding day when she came to try to persuade Enrique to attend school that day. Then Lou suggested a plan that is truly brilliant; I gotta hand it to him. He had the idea, I worked out the details, and Lou fine tuned it some more. Everyone, Enrique included, is pleased and hopeful about it. Enrique now has a system of cuts on a quarterly basis. School happens once a week. He can miss twice on a quarterly basis. Supposedly he visits Lou once a week (I said twice but Lou, Mr. Parental Rights, knocked it down to once a week); he can miss that twice on a quarterly basis. We decided that Enrique would visit Lou on a weekend night. Lou agreed to learn Gamecube and Gameboy advance. AS Friends Group which Enrique likes, no cuts YMCA Workout, happens three times a week, six assigned cuts on a quarterly basis. meetings, once a week, two assigned cuts on a quarterly basis No cuts for miscellaneous meetings. However he starts the quarter with two extra cuts that he can use for anything, and, here is the beauty of the system, he can earn more cuts in the following ways. Four consecutive sessions of school earns one cut. Two activities with his father and another sibling earns one cut. One month's perfect visits with Lou earns a two free cuts Three consecutive workouts earns a free cut One month without using free cuts earns a free cut voluntary outdoor activity earns a free cut strenuous physical activity earns a workout cut Non-nintendo visit with Lou earns a free cut. So if he goes for a jog outside with Lou he can earn three cuts in a couple of hours! We all agreed that there must be absolutely no persuasion. Enrique simply says he is using a cut and he gets to use it. No questions asked. When he runs out he must think of one of the many ways of earning more. We are very much hoping that this will reduce Enrique's panic attacks way way down. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Sounds like an intersting proposal. I hope it works to alleviate some of his anxiety! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Sounds like an intersting proposal. I hope it works to alleviate some of his anxiety! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 How are you going to keep track of all this? It sounds like a good system though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 How are you going to keep track of all this? It sounds like a good system though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Salli, this is brilliant. A great way to give Enrique a measure of control and learn responsible choices at the same time. But mostly I am happy that everyone involved was happy with the resolution. Immensely happy for you, (SAHM in GA) Chat! MSN elizabethloht@... n 34, mo, no formal dx Phoebe, 3 mo Enrique's Cut System > Enrique's schedule is supposed to be a workout Monday, Wednesday and Friday, followed by on Monday school at the computer lab, on Wednesday, his AS Friends Group, and on Friday, an appointment with Telfer, autism teacher consultant. > > Mostly this stuff doesn't happen. He worries and worries about the workout and if he goes he cannot do anything else. It has been driving me nuts for some time. > > Lou has been complaining that he cannot get Enrique to do anything with him. So he wanted (who is a SCHOOL consultant, mind) to meet with him and me to discuss his parenting time. > > is a very nice person. She agreed even though it is nowhere in her job description. > > She and I had an ulterior motive. Lou's workouts were ruining some very important activities for Enrique. Now I want Enrique to do the workouts; he really needs those too, but somehow they were coming first, before school, before other appointments that seemed far more important. > > So Enrique and I met with before the Lou, and me meeting to discuss ways to get Lou to loosen up on Enrique so that he would not have all these workout related panic attacks. > > We discussed some strategies, and planned to get Lou to agree to learn to play a Gamecube game or a gameboy advance game. We talked about the reasons that Enrique does not want to go to Lou's apartment (cobwebs in the bathroom; my house may be untidy but we have NO cobwebs visible), no comfortable place to sit, no room to pace, etc. We planned to try to persuade Lou to give Enrique some measure of control over his own life and to let him make the occasional choice. > > We walked away from this meeting feeling fairly gloomy about persuading Lou to do anything. > > Last Tuesday we met with Lou. He got off to a bad start by saying that he wished I would support him better when he came to get Enrique to go to the workout. > > I told him he had no idea what went on before he got there, the hours of Enrique following me around begging me to get him out of the workout, the knowledge that nothing I could say would convince Lou anyway, how torn I felt between the two of them. > > Lou dropped it. > > I said that sometimes I honestly thought that Enrique would attend more workouts and more of everything if we simply left it entirely up to Enrique whether or not he could go. But I said that seemed risky too because it might not work and then he wouldn't have done a workout for ages. Lou looked thoughtful. He seemed convinced especially when described the horrible panic attack of the preceding day when she came to try to persuade Enrique to attend school that day. > > Then Lou suggested a plan that is truly brilliant; I gotta hand it to him. He had the idea, I worked out the details, and Lou fine tuned it some more. Everyone, Enrique included, is pleased and hopeful about it. > > Enrique now has a system of cuts on a quarterly basis. > > School happens once a week. He can miss twice on a quarterly basis. > > Supposedly he visits Lou once a week (I said twice but Lou, Mr. Parental Rights, knocked it down to once a week); he can miss that twice on a quarterly basis. We decided that Enrique would visit Lou on a weekend night. Lou agreed to learn Gamecube and Gameboy advance. > > AS Friends Group which Enrique likes, no cuts > > YMCA Workout, happens three times a week, six assigned cuts on a quarterly basis. > > meetings, once a week, two assigned cuts on a quarterly basis > > No cuts for miscellaneous meetings. > > However he starts the quarter with two extra cuts that he can use for anything, and, here is the beauty of the system, he can earn more cuts in the following ways. > > Four consecutive sessions of school earns one cut. > Two activities with his father and another sibling earns one cut. > One month's perfect visits with Lou earns a two free cuts > Three consecutive workouts earns a free cut > One month without using free cuts earns a free cut > voluntary outdoor activity earns a free cut > strenuous physical activity earns a workout cut > Non-nintendo visit with Lou earns a free cut. > > So if he goes for a jog outside with Lou he can earn three cuts in a couple of hours! > > We all agreed that there must be absolutely no persuasion. Enrique simply says he is using a cut and he gets to use it. No questions asked. When he runs out he must think of one of the many ways of earning more. > > We are very much hoping that this will reduce Enrique's panic attacks way way down. > > Salli > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Sounds like a pretty good system! Good Luck! Penny :-D ----------------- We are very much hoping that this will reduce Enrique's panic attacks way way down. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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