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Trisha replied

Expensive!

Thanks Trisha - normally that would be descriptive enough! But a mum is

writing a piece for our next newsletter on why she joined the nct. One of

the reasons is that she would not have breastfed if she hadn't come along to

Bumps and Babies and she wants to make the point that a £36 " thank you " is

nothing compared to the price of not breatfeeding, not to mention the other

benefits. Could anyone put a rough figure on it?.

Fiona

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> Trisha replied

> Expensive!

>

> Thanks Trisha - normally that would be descriptive enough! But a mum

is

> writing a piece for our next newsletter on why she joined the nct.

One of

> the reasons is that she would not have breastfed if she hadn't come

along to

> Bumps and Babies and she wants to make the point that a £36 " thank

you " is

> nothing compared to the price of not breatfeeding, not to mention

the other

> benefits. Could anyone put a rough figure on it?.

> Fiona

This is very interesting cos there was a query on the bfc list about

whether there are any statistics as to if anyone actually decides to

bf having been to NCT classes, or have they already decided one way or

the other.

Ruthie

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Well, a big box (900grams) is about 5-6 quid I think, at least that's

the case for progress milk (DS is still on it). 26 grams makes 6

ounces so that should be about 200 fluid ounces milk per box...

But not totally sure how much milk a baby needs from birth to 6

months on average? I know they usually drink a pint a day from about

6 months (ca 16 fluid ounces?), but that's supplemented with food and

water. So perhaps btw 40 and 50p a day for a 6 months plus baby? Does

that sound about right? I work in metrics usually so a bit confusing.

You'll have to make your own calc for a newborn upwards though.

Karina

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Ruthie said

This is very interesting cos there was a query on the bfc list about

whether there are any statistics as to if anyone actually decides to

bf having been to NCT classes, or have they already decided one way or

the other.

Obviously this is one incident but this woman didn't even go to nct classes,

she came along to the weekly coffee morning and saw mothers breast feed

(probably for the first time) and kept asking questions about it. When asked

if she was going to breastfeed , the answer was no. We have a real good mix

of people at the coffee morning and everyone who had breastfed spoke in its

favour but more importantly (I think, and for this woman) those who had

done both i.e. breast fed one baby and bottle fed another were quite clear

on what was the best option - easiest for mother and best for baby. We

never made a big thing about breastfeeding but if the subject came up I

would draw her attention. Before anyone takes offence I " failed " to breast

feed my first two children so I know the feelings which go along with this

subject.

Anyway for a very young mother (21) to decide to breastfeed after not giving

it any real thought apart from " I won't be doing that " and then to become

someone who says " Thank God I was breastfeeding - it made me feel useful and

important " - that's quite a turn around, without any classes or formal

anything but just drip drip drip (of breast milk!) week after week - I'm

sure you get my point.

I'll just go to the baby section in Tesco and see the prices for myself - or

perhaps shock myself.

Fiona

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> there was a query on the bfc list about

> whether there are any statistics as to if anyone actually decides to

> bf having been to NCT classes

anecdotally, from the class I attended, four out of five were planning to bf.

One was concerned over the impact on her breasts (she talked about a big

conflict in her head over her breasts as sexual vs nurturing objects). After

the BFC week she was *going to think about it*. She is bf now and says that it

was because it was explained to her that the *damage* was done by being pg and

she wasn't saving herself from any stretching etc by not bfing. I am not

certain whether she got this from the class or from one of her mail groups.

Of the others, three are bfing without (significant) problems and one has had

big problems with nipples and is presently expressing only. I think that all

have started to introduce an expressed bottle or a formula bottle now as well

hth

james

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After the BFC week she was *going to think about

it*. She is bf now and says that it was because it was explained to

her that the *damage* was done by being pg and she wasn't saving

herself from any stretching etc by not bfing.

Ooh I tell 'em that but not quite in that " damage " way. I tell them

a story about a bf class I did for another teacher once, when there

was a radio presenter amongst the mums. (I never find out the names

of the parents of classes I do for other teachers...too short a time

to learn them so I don't even try!). Anyhow, a yr or so later I heard

this presenter on LBC radio, and she was talking bf, so I phoned in,

and she remembered me, and said that when I did her class I didn't

answer a question she asked. I said " that's not like me, what was the

question? " (NB this was all live on air!). She said " I asked you:

Would my boobs ever point north again? " I laughed and said " I can

answer that one now ...it's being pregnant and having given birth that

will prevent your boobs ever pointing north again, not whether or not

you bf. "

They all laugh when I tell that story, and the message gets home

amusingly rather than scaringly. :))

Ruthie

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Well, I was one of those people who had to go to Tesco's or Asda's or Boots and

pay those prices of formula because for three days straight after my c-section

last year I tried and tried and tried to breastfeed my son but unfortunately he

would just scream the place down in so much distress that in the end I had to

give up and bottle feed him, he took to the bottle like a duck to water and I

don't really think he has lost out for not being breastfed but it was so

upsetting for it not to happen because I had weighed up the option early on in

pregnancy and had really wanted to breastfeed.

What really made the situation worse was that when Cara (his cousin) was born 11

days later she did take to breastfeeding but her mum decided as soon as she came

out of hospital that it was too much of a pain to do it and put her daughter on

the bottle. That annoyed me because as much as I know that it is up to the

individual I also feel that if you are able to do it successfully then there is

no reason not to bottle-feed, it also was upsetting because she was so blasé

about it and after the struggle that she knew I had gone through my husband and

I thought that she could have been a bit more sensitive really.

I would love to try and breastfeed a second child because it might be totally

different next time around but I also feel that I would not want to put the baby

through the distress of trying again if they also did not want to breastfeed.

Has anyone else had this kind of a problem?

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Re: Re: Price of Formula

Ruthie said

This is very interesting cos there was a query on the bfc list about

whether there are any statistics as to if anyone actually decides to

bf having been to NCT classes, or have they already decided one way or

the other.

Obviously this is one incident but this woman didn't even go to nct

classes,

she came along to the weekly coffee morning and saw mothers breast feed

(probably for the first time) and kept asking questions about it. When

asked

if she was going to breastfeed , the answer was no. We have a real good

mix

of people at the coffee morning and everyone who had breastfed spoke in

its

favour but more importantly (I think, and for this woman) those who had

done both i.e. breast fed one baby and bottle fed another were quite

clear

on what was the best option - easiest for mother and best for baby. We

never made a big thing about breastfeeding but if the subject came up I

would draw her attention. Before anyone takes offence I " failed " to

breast

feed my first two children so I know the feelings which go along with

this

subject.

Anyway for a very young mother (21) to decide to breastfeed after not

giving

it any real thought apart from " I won't be doing that " and then to

become

someone who says " Thank God I was breastfeeding - it made me feel useful

and

important " - that's quite a turn around, without any classes or formal

anything but just drip drip drip (of breast milk!) week after week - I'm

sure you get my point.

I'll just go to the baby section in Tesco and see the prices for myself

- or

perhaps shock myself.

Fiona

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