Re: question regarding soymilk, vitamins and more

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You asked:

<<Thanks for letting me know that the kirklands is a caplet i can open

and pour on his food, good to know! Where can i order these vitamins

from?>>

It's Kirkman Labs... and the website is: www.kirkmanlabs.com They have a whole

line of supplements for ASD kids that are SCD compatible.

The almond milk is simple to do... I will post instructions in a separate

message. At this point, even if you didn't start SCD immediately with Luke, you

could make a test batch and see if he likes and accepts it. And don't dismay if

he doesn't at first.

You need to realise that the out-of-control bad gut bugs in his system will cry

out for MORE of the stuff they've been feeding on... and will make him CRAVE all

kinds of things that are bad for him, almost like an addict (well, EXACTLY like

an addict). These cravings WILL go away, though.

I'm sorry to barrage you with so much information right now. Especially since

you haven't read the book yet... it must be extremely overwhelming. I am going

to send a separate post regarding soy, so watch for that. Soy is definitely not

allowed on SCD... so if you start the diet with Luke, you would have to

eliminate it.

I don't mean for that to make you feel totally defeated.... my hope is that you

might see that the large amount of soy he is taking in right now *may* have

greatly contributed to making him worse.... and that, hopefully, once you read

the logic behind why it's bad for the gut, you'd have more positive insight into

why SCD may really turn things around for him.

In the meantime, while you're waiting for the book to arrive, you can go to

Amazon.com, search out Breaking the Vicious Cycle.... and actually read the

first couple of chapters of the book right there. That will give you a jump

start. The first 60 pages of BTVC contains the entire " meat " of SCD... the rest

is delicious recipes. So, it's a quick read... but you will probably read it

several times over and gain more and more insight.

Again, I want to assure you that MANY little ones begin SCD accepting only a few

foods that they have self-limited to.... most (if not all) of which are

" illegal " on SCD. MANY moms feel that SCD is going to be completely

impossible.... only to be gob-smacked (to borrow a term from a British friend

of mine) when a few weeks later, their children are eating VEGETABLES and other

healthy foods they thought they'd never touch! It's VERY common.... and I would

not be the least bit surprised if Luke follows suit.

I don't mean to make it sound like it will be a completely effortless

transition.... it might not be. I hope, though, that as you learn more about the

science behind this diet... and understand more about what's going on in your

little guy's gut... you'll have more confidence to proceed. You need to be

thoroughly convinced of the reasoning behind it all BEFORE you start.... so

you'll solidly know why you're doing it and what to expect.

Please, please, please read as much as you can at both the Pecanbread website

(www.pecanbread.com) ... especially the " Success Stories " and " Food Preparation "

links. And, go read as much as you can at the wonderful

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info .

We're here for you...

Patti, interim list moderator

Re: question regarding soymilk, vitamins and more

Patti,

why is soymilk one of the worst offenders for Luke? What is in the

soymilk that is harming him. I was told by my ped that the soymilk was

good for him. A nutritionist comes to see Luke twice monthly since

there are so many foods luke wont accept because of his sensory issues.

She is the one who told me to make sure he is getting a full 24 ozs per

day so that he gets all the proper vitamins he needs. To be honest i am

really nervous about starting SCD because so many of the foods he

accepts would have to go. I am worried he would be malnourished. I am

praying intently about this decision, dont want to do the wrong thing!

Thanks for letting me know that the kirklands is a caplet i can open

and pour on his food, good to know! Where can i order these vitamins

from?

Could you tell me how to make almond milk in a blender please?

thanks

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

WOW!! ok ok youve convinced me of the evils of soymilk. I guess i DO

need to take him off of it. I am anxiously awaiting my book and will

start preparing for the changes to come! i will just have to try out

this diet fanatically and trust it! I hope this helps my son and i wont

have to continue with mineral oil and prune juice and suppositories for

the poor kid anymore!!

karen

[Guest guest]

Patti,

thanks so much for all the information and support. Thanks for

answering so many questions for me also. I will go to the kirklands

website to order the vits. I guess i will save making almond milk till

he gets further into the diet. Thanks for letting me know i can read

the first couple chapters on amazon..that will give me a jumpstart! I

DO want to try this diet for luke. I will have to let go of my fears

and let the diet speak for itself. Its a bit overwhelming, but i trust

that it will do him some good, so i will go for it!! Luke is at the 25%

for his weight right now so i am a little concerned about him losing

weight. But from what i am reading he might lose a little at first only

to gain as he heals..so i wont freak out about this.

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

<<Patti,

thanks so much for all the information and support. Thanks for

answering so many questions for me also.>>

You are very welcome.

<<I will go to the kirklands website to order the vits.>>

It's KirkMAN's

<<I guess i will save making almond milk till

he gets further into the diet.>>

Well, since you have not yet started SCD, there is no harm in making a batch....

and seeing if he likes it. You'll get the practice... and some knowledge of his

taste for it. PLUS, it would be a heck of a lot better for him to be drinking

that instead of soy milk, even if you NEVER did SCD! Almond smoothies...

with a half-frozen, ripe banana tossed into the blender with some of the almond

milk... are to die for!

Try some of the other recipes, too.... from the pecanbread.com website. Test

them out. My entire family loves the peanut butter brownies (not for SCD

beginners... but yummy for a bit later). They are easy... and you'll be inspired

to know that some of the SCD goodies are really very good.

<<Luke is at the 25%

for his weight right now so i am a little concerned about him losing

weight. But from what i am reading he might lose a little at first only

to gain as he heals..so i wont freak out about this. >>

Another thing to be thinking about is that constipation is not uncommon in the

beginning... even for kids that were never constipated before. Since Luke is

already suffering from that, just be prepared. Test out the SCD legal

constipation protocol ahead of time.... be sure he'll accept it.

I think I already mentioned beets and/or beet juice... which often really help

with constipation. Beets are generally not for brand new SCD-ers either.... but

if constipation is chronic, you may need to try some...cooked & pureed, and if

necessary, spooned into an old Gerber jar to fool Luke. Save those jars!

Patti

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hi !

My son started SCD a month and a half ago at 10th percentile in

weight. He gained 3 lbs and almost an inch since starting the diet,

so I don't think all kids lose at first.

Good luck and SCD is definitely worth the shot!

Janet, mom to Cody- 5 yrs old- SCD since 4-17-06- multi food

allergies, leaky gut, speech delay, MB12 shots 1 1/2 yrs, high metals

in baby hair, Double DQ7 gluten intolerant genes and so on....

Luke is at the 25%

> for his weight right now so i am a little concerned about him losing

> weight. But from what i am reading he might lose a little at first

only

> to gain as he heals..so i wont freak out about this.

>

[Guest guest]

Patti;

Thank-you for this post! Needed to hear this right about now. Eagerly waiting

to be gob-smacked by my 2 yo daughter eating a plate of veggies and meat ;-)

Kim

Day 14 whole family dairy-free SCD (cultured butter for 2 yo)

3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT, expecting in December

Re: Re: question regarding soymilk, vitamins and more

...You need to realise that the out-of-control bad gut bugs in his system will

cry out for MORE of the stuff they've been feeding on... and will make him CRAVE

all kinds of things that are bad for him, almost like an addict (well, EXACTLY

like an addict). These cravings WILL go away, though...