Intro & Yogurt question

[Guest guest]

Hi all:

I've been on SCD for almost a year, but since I don't have major problems, have

not been motivated to be 100% faithful. The major symptom it has inadvertently

cured for me is my major depression, which I have not suffered from for almost a

year (that's a whole success story in itself, just started a new job on

Wednesday, where I came in first amongst 275 people who applied for the job,

after two tests and one interview).

I don't have D any more (I used to alternate between the two, and have

" explosive " episodes where I had to get to a bathroom right NOW!), so SCD (even

not 100% compliant) has cured that for me.

Currently, I'm battling C and bloating. I take two stewed prunes every morning

and evening, and if I'm faithful, that keeps me regular, but it does not address

the underlying issue, which is still, I believe, gut dysbiosis. So, back to the

intro, and here's my question.

Looking at BTVC, the intro doesn't really have yogurt, except as a moistener for

DCCC. Is it meant to be on the intro? Here's what's on the intro for me:

- chicken soup (without carrots),

- gelatin with fruit juice and saccharine,

- the cheesecake (the yogurt in this is cooked, so no probiotic effect),

- broiled fish or meat

- diluted fruit juice

- eggs, cooked or raw (I usually make a shake with two eggs, homemade yogurt and

honey)

- maybe yogurt-moistened DCCC, although I never really liked it plain

Am I missing anything? Do this for a day or two (since I don't have D), then

introduce one food at a time? I'm also dealing with major bloating (big tummy),

so maybe I should stay on the intro until that resolves, then introduce foods

one at a time? I remember the first time I did the intro being exTREMELY hungry

all the time, so I'llup the fat content, won't skim it off the chicken soup,

make yogurt from cream, eat fattier meats etc. Would coconut oil be allowed on

the intro? or should just introduce it after the intro?

Oh, and I do believe I'm fighting a yeast overgrowth as I get these athletes

foot bubbles on my feet, which I had a while back, a yeast rash on my

finger/hand, and I have chronic sinusitis, which I believe is also

yeast-related.

Thanks everyone.

Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

ps: I'm on Pecanbread and not the scdlist because I have three kids and just

like the ideas for feeding this wonderful food to my three NT children, even

though I'm the only one doing SCD (they're just GF) so sorry if this question is

not child-related :-)

[Guest guest]

I'm sure others will help you with the big questions, but just a

thought. STarting a new job and doing the intro may not be a great

combination. The intro and die off can make you feel yucky, cranky,

and tired, and that's a lot with a new job.

Just a thought.

Colby

celiac

scd 2.5 months

>

> Hi all:

>

> I've been on SCD for almost a year, but since I don't have major

problems, have not been motivated to be 100% faithful. The major

symptom it has inadvertently cured for me is my major depression,

which I have not suffered from for almost a year (that's a whole

success story in itself, just started a new job on Wednesday, where I

came in first amongst 275 people who applied for the job, after two

tests and one interview).

>

> I don't have D any more (I used to alternate between the two, and

have " explosive " episodes where I had to get to a bathroom right

NOW!), so SCD (even not 100% compliant) has cured that for me.

>

> Currently, I'm battling C and bloating. I take two stewed prunes

every morning and evening, and if I'm faithful, that keeps me

regular, but it does not address the underlying issue, which is

still, I believe, gut dysbiosis. So, back to the intro, and here's my

question.

>

> Looking at BTVC, the intro doesn't really have yogurt, except as a

moistener for DCCC. Is it meant to be on the intro? Here's what's on

the intro for me:

> - chicken soup (without carrots),

> - gelatin with fruit juice and saccharine,

> - the cheesecake (the yogurt in this is cooked, so no probiotic

effect),

> - broiled fish or meat

> - diluted fruit juice

> - eggs, cooked or raw (I usually make a shake with two eggs,

homemade yogurt and honey)

> - maybe yogurt-moistened DCCC, although I never really liked it

plain

>

> Am I missing anything? Do this for a day or two (since I don't have

D), then introduce one food at a time? I'm also dealing with major

bloating (big tummy), so maybe I should stay on the intro until that

resolves, then introduce foods one at a time? I remember the first

time I did the intro being exTREMELY hungry all the time, so I'llup

the fat content, won't skim it off the chicken soup, make yogurt from

cream, eat fattier meats etc. Would coconut oil be allowed on the

intro? or should just introduce it after the intro?

>

> Oh, and I do believe I'm fighting a yeast overgrowth as I get these

athletes foot bubbles on my feet, which I had a while back, a yeast

rash on my finger/hand, and I have chronic sinusitis, which I believe

is also yeast-related.

>

> Thanks everyone.

>

> Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

>

> ps: I'm on Pecanbread and not the scdlist because I have three kids

and just like the ideas for feeding this wonderful food to my three

NT children, even though I'm the only one doing SCD (they're just GF)

so sorry if this question is not child-related :-)

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Colby:

Actually, things are easier now that I've started my new job. Before,

I was applying for jobs, doing interviews, and working as a temp in a

variety of offices, often jumping into a new situation and learning

on the fly. Now, I have my own office, have a permanent position, and

a bunch of nice people to work with, and a well-defined and well-

paced training schedule. I feel like I can breathe peacefully for the

first time in a long while. Hence the desire to tackle this C and

bloating. I started the intro this afternoon (had some peanut butter

this morning). So far so good, although no lessening of bloating yet.

I did have a few glasses of sparkling water with hermesetas

(saccharine) tablets added. I did make the cheesecake from BTVC, but

I wonder if honey might be one of my problems.

I also wonder how well we can trust that honey doesn't have any

additives? I'm using Kidd Bros. honey made here in British Columbia.

Maybe that's my problem?

Any advice on my other questions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

> >

> > Hi all:

> >

> > I've been on SCD for almost a year, but since I don't have major

> problems, have not been motivated to be 100% faithful. The major

> symptom it has inadvertently cured for me is my major depression,

> which I have not suffered from for almost a year (that's a whole

> success story in itself, just started a new job on Wednesday, where

I

> came in first amongst 275 people who applied for the job, after two

> tests and one interview).

> >

> > I don't have D any more (I used to alternate between the two, and

> have " explosive " episodes where I had to get to a bathroom right

> NOW!), so SCD (even not 100% compliant) has cured that for me.

> >

> > Currently, I'm battling C and bloating. I take two stewed prunes

> every morning and evening, and if I'm faithful, that keeps me

> regular, but it does not address the underlying issue, which is

> still, I believe, gut dysbiosis. So, back to the intro, and here's

my

> question.

> >

> > Looking at BTVC, the intro doesn't really have yogurt, except as

a

> moistener for DCCC. Is it meant to be on the intro? Here's what's

on

> the intro for me:

> > - chicken soup (without carrots),

> > - gelatin with fruit juice and saccharine,

> > - the cheesecake (the yogurt in this is cooked, so no probiotic

> effect),

> > - broiled fish or meat

> > - diluted fruit juice

> > - eggs, cooked or raw (I usually make a shake with two eggs,

> homemade yogurt and honey)

> > - maybe yogurt-moistened DCCC, although I never really liked it

> plain

> >

> > Am I missing anything? Do this for a day or two (since I don't

have

> D), then introduce one food at a time? I'm also dealing with major

> bloating (big tummy), so maybe I should stay on the intro until

that

> resolves, then introduce foods one at a time? I remember the first

> time I did the intro being exTREMELY hungry all the time, so I'llup

> the fat content, won't skim it off the chicken soup, make yogurt

from

> cream, eat fattier meats etc. Would coconut oil be allowed on the

> intro? or should just introduce it after the intro?

> >

> > Oh, and I do believe I'm fighting a yeast overgrowth as I get

these

> athletes foot bubbles on my feet, which I had a while back, a yeast

> rash on my finger/hand, and I have chronic sinusitis, which I

believe

> is also yeast-related.

> >

> > Thanks everyone.

> >

> > Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

> >

> > ps: I'm on Pecanbread and not the scdlist because I have three

kids

> and just like the ideas for feeding this wonderful food to my three

> NT children, even though I'm the only one doing SCD (they're just

GF)

> so sorry if this question is not child-related :-)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Theresa,

Hmmm... it does look like Elaine recommends just small amounts of yogurt on

intro.... although it isn't really clear. I would think it's okay, though maybe

not in huge quantities? Since you've already been on SCD for a while, I think

you might want to keep it in.

Why are you not eating the carrots in the soup?

My only other comment is that I believe Elaine meant for us not to use much fat

during intro... and beginning days/weeks. So, I guess I would say go easy on

that.

After intro, you might think about introducing beets, as they are known for

helping with C. Also, at a point you can tolerate them, lentil soup would be

great. Lots of fiber. I buy the pink lentils.... which are the same as the

greenish brown ones... only they're de-hulled, and take less time to cook.

For yeast, have you tried the carrot juice and garlic? I will hunt up a post

regarding that and re-post it.

Patti, interim list moderator

Intro & Yogurt question

Hi all:

I've been on SCD for almost a year, but since I don't have major problems,

have not been motivated to be 100% faithful. The major symptom it has

inadvertently cured for me is my major depression, which I have not suffered

from for almost a year (that's a whole success story in itself, just started a

new job on Wednesday, where I came in first amongst 275 people who applied for

the job, after two tests and one interview).

I don't have D any more (I used to alternate between the two, and have

" explosive " episodes where I had to get to a bathroom right NOW!), so SCD (even

not 100% compliant) has cured that for me.

Currently, I'm battling C and bloating. I take two stewed prunes every morning

and evening, and if I'm faithful, that keeps me regular, but it does not address

the underlying issue, which is still, I believe, gut dysbiosis. So, back to the

intro, and here's my question.

Looking at BTVC, the intro doesn't really have yogurt, except as a moistener

for DCCC. Is it meant to be on the intro? Here's what's on the intro for me:

- chicken soup (without carrots),

- gelatin with fruit juice and saccharine,

- the cheesecake (the yogurt in this is cooked, so no probiotic effect),

- broiled fish or meat

- diluted fruit juice

- eggs, cooked or raw (I usually make a shake with two eggs, homemade yogurt

and honey)

- maybe yogurt-moistened DCCC, although I never really liked it plain

Am I missing anything? Do this for a day or two (since I don't have D), then

introduce one food at a time? I'm also dealing with major bloating (big tummy),

so maybe I should stay on the intro until that resolves, then introduce foods

one at a time? I remember the first time I did the intro being exTREMELY hungry

all the time, so I'llup the fat content, won't skim it off the chicken soup,

make yogurt from cream, eat fattier meats etc. Would coconut oil be allowed on

the intro? or should just introduce it after the intro?

Oh, and I do believe I'm fighting a yeast overgrowth as I get these athletes

foot bubbles on my feet, which I had a while back, a yeast rash on my

finger/hand, and I have chronic sinusitis, which I believe is also

yeast-related.

Thanks everyone.

Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

ps: I'm on Pecanbread and not the scdlist because I have three kids and just

like the ideas for feeding this wonderful food to my three NT children, even

though I'm the only one doing SCD (they're just GF) so sorry if this question is

not child-related :-)

[Guest guest]

I'm glad the job is easier now. That should help. I " m still a

newbie, but I will tell you waht I know and hopefully some one more

experienced can chime in if I've not answered your questions. The

intro always seems to be a good idea from watching this board. It

really wallops the bad bacteria so that you can progress toward more

healing. A lot of people recommend limiting the fat in the beginning

because it can be hard to digest. THey up the protein instead,

because as you heal the hunger is for protein so that you can build

new gut tissue. Everyone is different though. But healing does take

a lot of protein. It seems like you might want to follow the advice

in BTVC or on the site (can't remember which), Elaine recommended

cutting the honey back quite a bit if you think you have yeast. THen

she thougth you could increase it as it came under control. I could

never find when to introduce yogurt, I do know it was after the

intro - someone posted it a couple of weeks ago, but I can't

remember. Don't forget the epsom salt baths and activated charcoal

for the yucky die off feelings. Don't be surprised if the bowels do

weird and strange things over the next few weeks. It really is

different to get them cleaned out. Be real slow and methodical about

adding food in so you can assess how you handle it. We rushed the

first time and had to start again. We still had a wallop of a die

off the second time. So it pays to go back to the intro. Best to

you.

Colby

celiac

2.5 months scd