Re: Goat milk/yogurt catastrophe! ok to go cow???

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I decided to buy organic cow milk and make a batch of yogurt. Today was the

first day I gave it to (1/2 cup) and I am happy to say its been five

hours and I have not seen any regressed behaviors. I am going to continue to

use it unless something changes. I have to admit, this batch of yogurt is the

best batch I have made to date.

---- jenniferandmiguel@... wrote:

[Guest guest]

Cow yogurt is a little harder to digest. But this is what Elaine always

intended for us to use. If you are digesting it well go for it. The casein is

rendered harmless in any type of milk when fermented the SCD way for 24 hours.

Expect a die off reaction though if you are eating 1/2 cup to start with. Those

who have time and can go slow, usually add it slower.

Don't let the die off scare you away from using the yogurt. Die off looks will

look like the flue, dizziness, irritability, some times rashes.....and is not

fun. It doesn't last forever though. But is much needed to go through this

transition to get to the other side...so to speak. We went fast too. Didn't

feel we had time to loose. Came too sick and malnourished.

The goat milk yogurt is always More drinkable. The cow is much prettier to look

at, more firm and cheaper.

God Bless trusting the yogurt! I will pray for your success! Antoinette

(family of five SCD 2/06 thanks to celiac/asd and more and healing when no other

way worked.)

[Guest guest]

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SO interesting - we are absolutely mirroring each other - even down to

our sons' names! I'll keep you up-to-date if anything changes for

. He had 1/2 cup of cow yogurt yesterday and 1/4 cup this morning.

son - 7yo, ASD, SCD 4 yrs 3 months

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Hi Patti,

I missed your message at first because I'm trying to read from the

list rather than getting the emails. There are SOOOO many messages...

We used goat milk for the yogurt way back when, because 's

little gut was so damaged. He seesm to be doing fine with the cow

yogurt now. I do not like the Meyenburg milk at all! I used to get

some really beautiful goat milk from Trader Joe's. I think it was

Summer Hill Farm. They stopped carrying it and went to Meyenberg -

because of the longer shelf life. Yuck! The yogurt is not nearly as

nice - very runny and musky tasting. The Summer Hill was a lot better,

but I can only find Meyenburg around here (Seattle area).

We'll see what happens with the cow yogurt, but he's doing well so far.

Thanks again for writing and thanks also to everyone who posted

positive messages about our story. I wish I could stay on the list,

but all the " noise " from people trying to argue with you, Mimi, Jody

and Carol really gets to me. Good grief.

Love to all,

son - 7yo ASD, SCD 4yrs 3 months

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> Hi ! I remember you from when you started.

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> Have you always avoided cow dairy because he's had reactions to it

pre-diet? I would be tempted to try cow. I am so lucky that Katera

tolerates cow.... it definitely makes a nice, thick yogurt. I have

made plenty of goat yogurt, too... but can't always get good milk.

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> I honestly don't know what to tell you about the Meyenberg milk. I

only used it once... and thought the yogurt was AWFUL. A friend of

mine who raises goats told me that Meyenberg mixes the milk of all

kinds of different breeds together... and that in fact, you never know

what you're really getting (in terms of how much of which breed). I

know there is a real difference in taste, fat content, etc... between

different breeds of goats.

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> So.... I guess that was no help. Short of buying your own flock of

goats, I don't know what to suggest.

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> Patti

> Goat milk/yogurt catastrophe! ok to go cow???

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> Hello all, it's been a long time, but I need help!

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> I've been giving my son goat yogurt for the four years we've been on

> SCD. I used to get great goat milk at Trader Joe's, but they stopped

> carrying it. Now, all I can find is Meyenberg. I've been using it for

> the past few months with no problem. I don't like it as much, but it

> works ok.

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> I've been trying to make a batch of yogurt for the past two days and

> I've ruined three quarts of goat milk. Everytime I try to heat them,

> they curdle and get disgusting before the temp even reaches 150, let

> alone 185. What's going on??? I'm not doing anything differently -

> same milk, same pan, same thermometer.

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> Has anyone experienced this? What can I do? What does this mean about

> the milk?

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> Has anyone gone from using only goat products to using cow products

> (yogurt and cheese)? How did it go?

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> If you believe strongly that it will be a huge mistake for me to try

> giving him yogurt made from whole organic cow's milk, please let me

> know why. I've always felt strongly that the goat was better, but I'm

> about to lose it with this milk!

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> BTW - usually gets about 1/2 cup yogurt per day in a smoothy.

> He also eats a little as ice cream, which I know is not giving him the

> probiotic. He seems to be doing fine, a couple of days without any,

> but I consider it a " medicine " for him - he needs it.

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> What should I do??

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> Thank you so much!!!

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> son - 7 years old, ASD, SCD 4 years (very happy, healthy kid!)

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