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I wonder how many of us have sleep issues....apnea or not. In order for me

to sleep I have to have a mask (any light no matter how tiny or soft will

keep me awake) and ear plugs or I use little tiny Sony ear buds to listen to

talk radio (most of which would bore you off to sleep...which is why I use

it). I also have an anti-anxiety med that I take only at night...because I

can't turn the brain off and will obsess over every thought. I run and

re-run conversations with people, potential conversations...potential

problems. It is horrible. Before the meds if I woke up in the middle of the

night I could kiss that nites sleep good-bye. Sleeping pills made me groggy

the next day...so they weren't an option and Tylenol PM's worked only some

of the time. Now I take my " sleepy time " meds and the longest I wait to fall

asleep is 30 min. Fifteen is more normal now.

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Speaking of no OFF switch at night....what time is it right now where you are???

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So how is the trip coming along, besides what I've been reading from the

infamous trip coordinator...ready to get back to the grim of the home life??

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I need at least 8 hours a night, but for the last few years, I can't

seem to get more than 5. It makes me crazy. My doc gave me a scrip

for Ambien, too, but my problem is not falling asleep, it's staying

asleep. With the Ambien, I'm good for 4 hours, then wide awake. I

find Tylenol PM works better for me. At least sometimes, it helps me

fall back asleep...not so with Ambien.

I don't know what the problem is...menopause, stress, WLS, just plain

old aging...I don't know, but I don't like it. I'm looking forward

to my breast reduction on July 8th to get some rest with my beloved

percoset...LOL

in NJ

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> I had an awful time sleeping the first two years post-op. I heard

> somewhere that it was due to the rapid weight loss and metabolism

being screwed up. Whatever it was, it sucked. Still have problems

sleeping through the night. Have always been a night owl, but even

going to bed really late, 1-2 a.m., I get 2-3 hours then am up for

the rest of the night. Doc gave me a prescription for Ambien and I

take it once or twice a month to " catch-up " and always feel much

better in the morning.

> However, can definitely say my sleep pattern since wls has been

> completely altered. Thank God I don't require a lot of sleep to

begin with. My friends tell me that they would go nuts if they only

had 3-4 hours of sleep a night. Then they wonder why I'm so wacky. lol

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Sigh. That'd be me. I'm answering email. But worse, I'm still answering it

AFTER I am asleep. When I get up to visit the facility, I'm still writing

answers. Sometimes I have go do it so I can get back to sleep.

I have no brain off switch at night and no brain ON switch in the morning

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We're in FL, so it's midnight

I'd just be sitting down to my email about now. Come to think of it, I just sat

down

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You wrote, " -I seem to require a lot of sleep, something new for me. "

This past week during this really big attack, I did nothing but sleep for

five days straight. Obviously I have arisen, thank goodness. Missed Thanksgiving

completely.

I think sleep is like pain, they are both two of God's miracles to help us

know when to slow down and take it easy. Most of us are so Type A. I used to

just push the need for sleep away and would stay up for days. The one blessing I

have learned through this disease is the value of a good night's sleep. I have

learned through complimentary therapies about the healing and ordinary

physiological processes that can only occur during these different sleep states.

When I realized how important and significant a good regular sleep cycle is to

my

health, I put it on my treatment plan as doctored ordered.

Like most of us I suffer with insomnia, I don't know if it is the disease or

narcotics, (or the Dextrostat I take to stay awake during the day from the

narcotics), but I am grateful to the Xanax I take at bedtime.

I used to have shame about my medication regimen, uppers, downers, narcotics,

antianxieties, etc. But, I also learned a long time ago, that every body has

to do what ever they have to do to get through the day, just one day at a

time. I evaluate my treatment plan based on my A1C, overall BS's (which are

finally less than 130!! Yeah!), pain trend, ability to participate in my ADL's,

sleep pattern, fluid balance / hydration / nutrition. Overall, I think I am

doing

okay, my dental problems were such a fluke, though. But my gums are now

healed. The most important indicator of my overall well being is my spiritual

and

emotional health. And, , I had to eliminate all the toxic people from

my rolodex.

Karyn E. , RN

Executive Director, PAI

http://www.pancassociation.org

Pancreatitis Association International

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Does anyone else have insomnia? I am lucky if I can stay asleep for

2 hours. It's been a few years since I've been able to sleep

normally. I used to be able to sleep solid for about 8 or 9 hrs. I

never feel rested. Some of it is b/c of the nausea & pain, I'm

sure. Any tricks out there to getting a better night's sleep? And

not a sleep number bed, I can't afford anything like that.

Hugs,

Deanna

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> You wrote, " -I seem to require a lot of sleep, something new for

me. "

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> This past week during this really big attack, I did nothing but

sleep for

> five days straight. Obviously I have arisen, thank goodness. Missed

Thanksgiving

> completely.

>

> I think sleep is like pain, they are both two of God's miracles to

help us

> know when to slow down and take it easy. Most of us are so Type A.

I used to

> just push the need for sleep away and would stay up for days. The

one blessing I

> have learned through this disease is the value of a good night's

sleep. I have

> learned through complimentary therapies about the healing and

ordinary

> physiological processes that can only occur during these different

sleep states.

> When I realized how important and significant a good regular sleep

cycle is to my

> health, I put it on my treatment plan as doctored ordered.

>

> Like most of us I suffer with insomnia, I don't know if it is the

disease or

> narcotics, (or the Dextrostat I take to stay awake during the day

from the

> narcotics), but I am grateful to the Xanax I take at bedtime.

>

> I used to have shame about my medication regimen, uppers, downers,

narcotics,

> antianxieties, etc. But, I also learned a long time ago, that every

body has

> to do what ever they have to do to get through the day, just one

day at a

> time. I evaluate my treatment plan based on my A1C, overall BS's

(which are

> finally less than 130!! Yeah!), pain trend, ability to participate

in my ADL's,

> sleep pattern, fluid balance / hydration / nutrition. Overall, I

think I am doing

> okay, my dental problems were such a fluke, though. But my gums are

now

> healed. The most important indicator of my overall well being is my

spiritual and

> emotional health. And, , I had to eliminate all the toxic

people from

> my rolodex.

>

> Karyn E. , RN

> Executive Director, PAI

> http://www.pancassociation.org

> Pancreatitis Association International

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Deanna,

For several years I had terrible problems like that. I know a lot of

it was stress, but even after the stress was removed, the sleeping

problems continued. I have them now because of the night sweats,

which we've finally attributed to wearing the duragesic patch, but

not as often as in the past.

There are a few things I do that really seem to help. You may have

already tried them, but just in case, I'll mention them anyway. First

of all, I try to cleanse my thoughts of anything stressful, work

problems, family concerns, tomorrow's " to do " list, etc., and just

think about something that evokes pleasant memories. I take a

Melatonin and draw a deep, hot bath with a couple drops of Bert's

Bees bath oil and soak until my skin's puckered up. I love the scent

of the bath oil and find it very soothing. Then I climb in bed with

the heating pad (if I'm in pain) set on low and put it either under

my back or on my abdomen (whichever hurts the most at the time). I

try to read for a while and sometimes I'll have a small snack of

peanut butter on two graham crackers (low fat varieties). Usually

this combination of events will do the trick, in fact once I actually

dozed off for a bit in the tub, so I don't do that anymore if no one

else is here!!! The water hadn't even gotten cold, so I know I wasn't

there too long!

You might give one or all of these suggestions a trick if you haven't

already. One thing I DON'T do is try to fall asleep with the TV on,

the light noise of it seems to help me drop off quickly, but it

always wakes me up again later in the wee hours.

Hope this helps. If this continues, Deanna, you really need to see

if your doctor can prescribe some type of sleeping aid. The lack of

adequate sleep could catch up with you and end up making you really

weak and more prone to illness.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

South Carolina

SC & SE Regional Rep.

PAI, Intl.

Note: All comments and advice are personal opinion only, and should

not be

should be substituted for a professional medical consultation.

Deanna wrote:

> Does anyone else have insomnia?

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