Use of Sacchromyces Boulardi

[Guest guest]

Ok, not sure if I've spelled that right. Anyway, there is a post here

about using it after the intro diet, but after exploring around the

pecanbread web site, I see it is not recommended as a probiotic. Any

comments? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm not sure I have a definitive answer. Elaine really did not have time to

research the many new probiotic bacterial strains that have come out on the

market over the past several years. She was uncomfortable with " experimenting "

when it came to some of these strains.

She worried about supplementing with many of the other strains and wondered why

people couldn't just stick with good ole " tried and true " acidophilus only. She

knew that one was a good " space taker-upper " (technical term I made up!),which

would prevent the harmful pathogens from opportunistically taking over.... and

that acidophilus was basically harmless to those of us on SCD. I've always been

happy enough to do this " Elaine's way " and not branch off into using other

strains.

That doesn't mean that some of the others may not be beneficial.... but she

just would have wanted to be absolutely, solidly SURE, before recommending

something other than what worked for her and so many other people over so many

years.

I'll admit, I personally have not researched this strain at all... so I can't

say anything negative about it.

I went to Elaine's website, www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and searched around

in the " Knowledge Base " but all I was able to find was that it " isn't allowed on

SCD " , because the effects of it (and several other bacterial strains and

soil-based organisms) " have not been well researched or documented " .

If I can find out anything else, I'll post it.

Patti

Use of Sacchromyces Boulardi

Ok, not sure if I've spelled that right. Anyway, there is a post here

about using it after the intro diet, but after exploring around the

pecanbread web site, I see it is not recommended as a probiotic. Any

comments? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Elaine approved this strain at some point, to the best of my knowledge.

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[Guest guest]

I looked all over her website and could not find anything except one passage

that included it along with soil-based strains and said none of them were legal.

Can you give me a link to the message or section that verifies it's legal? If I

could have that in my own files that would be really helpful.

Thanks Summer....

Patti

Re: Use of Sacchromyces Boulardi

Elaine approved this strain at some point, to the best of my knowledge.

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I do not have a link, perhaps one of the other mods has some link info.

It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that only the

Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did make the original

enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not reflected on the online lists.

Summer

Patti wrote:

I looked all over her website and could not find anything except one

passage that included it along with soil-based strains and said none of them

were legal.

Can you give me a link to the message or section that verifies it's legal? If I

could have that in my own files that would be really helpful.

Thanks Summer....

Patti

Re: Use of Sacchromyces Boulardi

Elaine approved this strain at some point, to the best of my knowledge.

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Patti,

Found this article by Jody G:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:ZcV5TZQ7rfkJ:www.autismone.org/AutismOne2005/\

uploads/Goddard%2520Jody3.doc+Saccharomyces+Boulardii+Specific+Carbohydrate & hl=e\

n & gl=us & ct=clnk & cd=1

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[Guest guest]

> I do not have a link, perhaps one of the other mods has some link info.

>

> It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that only

> the Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did make the

> original enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not reflected

> on the online lists.

>

> Summer

She said it was OK to use the one with rice bran oil if it really

helped. I believe she stated that on the Lyris listserv.

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

For some reason I too know she approved it. I actually use it myself and do find

it helpful.

I do know that it is non-colonizing and not related to Candida at all. It is esp

good for traveler's d. As with anything that we use in the *unknown* realm, use

with caution and at your own risk. I agree with Patti that it may be ok however,

Elaine did not have time to research every bacterial strain that came along.

Charlene

UC 8 years

SCD 5 1/2 years

> I do not have a link, perhaps one of the other mods has some link info.

>

> It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that only

> the Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did make the

> original enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not reflected

> on the online lists.

>

> Summer

She said it was OK to use the one with rice bran oil if it really

helped. I believe she stated that on the Lyris listserv.

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

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[Guest guest]

In the research I've done on this, it is a yeast not commonly found

in the human body. It seems to push out the candida (probably

causing MAJOR die-off for some people) as it colonizes in your

system. Most of the research states to use it for about 3 months,

then when you come off it, it dies off. It seems to only stay in

your system for the amount of time that you take it. It will affect

the gut flora. There are studies to be found if you google - it

works very well with the HIV/AIDS population, and a couple of studies

on IBD and Crohn's, but didn't see any on autism. Be careful if you

decide to use it - some of them have illegals in them.

Hope this helps.

Sue

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> > I do not have a link, perhaps one of the other mods has some

link info.

> >

> > It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that

only

> > the Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did

make the

> > original enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not

reflected

> > on the online lists.

> >

> > Summer

>

> She said it was OK to use the one with rice bran oil if it really

> helped. I believe she stated that on the Lyris listserv.

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> SCD 6 years

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[Guest guest]

" It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that only

the Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did make the

original enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not reflected

on the online lists. "

I just looked at pecanbread.com to check on this. There is no mention

of the cellulose vs. the rice bran enzymes on pecanbread.com. I just

listed the 3 varieties of enzymes that Houston's sells. The chewables

are not allowed because of the sweeteners, but the others are fine.

S. Boulardii is allowed on SCD. Elaine herself approved it.

As soon as I get some time, I'll go through the most recent Kirkman's

Catalog and add any other supplements that I see that are fine for SCD.

There are other companies that make products that are fine for SCD.

It's just that I don't have the time to read the catalogs for every

supplement manufacturer to make a comprehensive list.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Great! I was beginning to think I was delusional, I thought Elaine had approved

it. Thanks Jody!

Summer

" Jody G. " wrote:

" It would be nice to clarify. Pecanbread website also says that only

the Houston's SCD version enzymes are legal, but Elaine did make the

original enzymes with rice bran oil legal as well, but not reflected

on the online lists. "

I just looked at pecanbread.com to check on this. There is no mention

of the cellulose vs. the rice bran enzymes on pecanbread.com. I just

listed the 3 varieties of enzymes that Houston's sells. The chewables

are not allowed because of the sweeteners, but the others are fine.

S. Boulardii is allowed on SCD. Elaine herself approved it.

As soon as I get some time, I'll go through the most recent Kirkman's

Catalog and add any other supplements that I see that are fine for SCD.

There are other companies that make products that are fine for SCD.

It's just that I don't have the time to read the catalogs for every

supplement manufacturer to make a comprehensive list.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

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