Yep- another yogurt question....

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My son - age 5- on SCD since mid April for multi food

allergies/intolerances, asthma and stomach problems started goat

yogurt about 2 (?I think?) weeks ago. He did really well with the

small amounts of goat yogurt for several days. Thinking it would go

bad fast, I made a lot of custards and souffle bread to use it up.

He had a lot of those items w/ goat yogurt and a nice size bowl of

the yogurt mixed with applesauce and cooked strawberries (weird

combo, but he likes it) the last day of goat yog.

That night he was pretty wheezy and had to use his asthma medicine

so I figured I way overdid the yogurt that day. Knowing I was

running out of goat's milk yogurt, I had a batch of organic cow's

milk/organic cream incubating ready for the next day.

He ate a few spoonfuls for 3 days and each night had some wheezing,

one night really bad requiring his inhaler. No stomach upset.

Behaviorwise, I have been shocked! The boy who never wants to play

with toys and only wants to watch TV or play video games all day (we

don't let him of course) gave up afternoon TV time -voluntarily- to

happily play with his sister outside. You have to know him to know

how big a change in behavior this is. This is headline making news

in our family!

Ordinarily I would yank any food that makes him wheeze right out of

his diet. (I almost did that with bananas at the start, but

Antoinette wrote me and encouraged me to keep them in and she was

right- the wheezing stopped.) Plus, I feel the yogurt is doing

something beneficial in there because of the behavior change. No

yogurt today and he's been a bit more back to whiny, " I wannaaaa

watch teee-veee, I'mmmm boooorrrred. " -that kind of stuff, but also

no wheezing so far.

So, I figure the cow's milk yogurt is out for him for now- but it

was so nice and delicious I will continue that for me. Should I

retry the goat yogurt since maybe the wheezing was a die off sign?

On the other hand, aren't inhaler's yeast promoting? Am I

cancelling the yogurt's benefits out by having to use it some?

Hope this makes sense- typing fast while supper is cooking.

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD since 4-17-06

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Janet,

It's GREAT to hear about your " headline news " ! That warms the heart and gives us

all the momentum to keep on keepin' on.

On the goat yogurt, it seems like you *may* have let him have too much, too

fast. I would re-try the goat. He would not have gotten any probiotic benefit

from the cooked items (the bread, etc.) but it may have been too soon to

challenge his gut with the dairy itself.

Yeah, the wheezing could have been die-off... and might have gone away. Next

time, I would just suggest a small amount daily... for a few weeks. SLOWLY add a

bit more. It will last about three weeks in the fridge.

Patti

Yep- another yogurt question....

<<I feel the yogurt is doing something beneficial in there because of the

behavior change. >>

<<Should I retry the goat yogurt since maybe the wheezing was a die off

sign?>>

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> Janet,

> Yeah, the wheezing could have been die-off... and might have gone

> away. Next time, I would just suggest a small amount daily... for a

> few weeks. SLOWLY add a bit more. It will last about three weeks in

> the fridge.

You can often react to the yogurt without it being a severe type of

allergy. I get a swollen waistline and stuffy nose from it sometimes,

but the benefit to my " operating system " is well worth a few seconds

of temporary discomfort. Same thing happens from time to time with cow

cheese.

>

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carol & Patti, That's what I was thinking, but wanted

confirmation from those who had seen or heard of the different types

of die off. Now that I know it lasts 3 weeks, I can really stretch

that stuff out- Good to know! Of course, he loves and begs for it

so I will have to hide it in the top/back of the fridge from him!

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD since 4-17-06- food

allergies/intolerances- asthma, mostly gone- eczema, gone- chronic

loose stools even 2 yr GF, GONE!

>

> > Janet,

> > Yeah, the wheezing could have been die-off... and might have

gone

> > away. Next time, I would just suggest a small amount daily...

for a

> > few weeks. SLOWLY add a bit more. It will last about three weeks

in

> > the fridge.

>

> You can often react to the yogurt without it being a severe type

of

> allergy. I get a swollen waistline and stuffy nose from it

sometimes,

> but the benefit to my " operating system " is well worth a few

seconds

> of temporary discomfort. Same thing happens from time to time with

cow

> cheese.

> >

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> SCD 6 years

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Janet, this is just wonderful news about your CODY! Our one daughter

coughed during die off, had a runny nose and a eczema like rash. It lasted much

of the first two months, and then vanished. Be patient because food

intolerances take time to " heal out of " , when they where caused by a leaky

damaged gut. I hope that you continue your success and eating of the goat

yogurt, to see if like us these strange reactions VANISH.

When we feared that the " die off " reaction was casein, we took the yogurt out!

A BIG OOPS. Kiki started to regress and autistic symptoms reemerged. This is

when I discovered that it was " die off " and not dairy reactions! We got the

courage and put back in the goat yogurt. She had one more " baby " like die off

reaction, and became much, much happier and active. The most unbelievable is

our " mute " and asd daughter was and is still always sounding like a baby

chimp...she is trying desperately to learn how to talk now! She doesn't stop!

Three month set back wasn't fun, but are back on track again! To us the SCD TM

yogurt has worked magic. We are getting our daughter back.

Best to you! Antoinette and family of five (SCD 2/06) (add, adhd, autism,

celiac, malabsorption, multiple food sensitivities and more)