Side-effects of diet

[Guest guest]

My family started this diet last Sunday for my autistic daughter. She

has been sweatig like crazy when she sleeps. Is she possible sweating

out toxins?? Anyone ever heard of string poop? What about white

spots on skin (i.e. pigment issue). I know we have many many medical

issues going on with autism so I don't know if any of you know of

these things. Thanks for any help!

[Guest guest]

Sounds like the sweating could definitely be her body's way of detoxing. As far

as the other symptoms, do you mean these have newly appeared since starting the

diet? If so, I'd say yes, it's probably die-off related. She's been on the diet

less than a week.... BIG changes are going on down in the gut. This affects her

entire system. Be sure she drinks plenty of (legal) fluids.

Patti, mom to Katera

Side-effects of diet

My family started this diet last Sunday for my autistic daughter. She

has been sweatig like crazy when she sleeps. Is she possible sweating

out toxins?? Anyone ever heard of string poop? What about white

spots on skin (i.e. pigment issue). I know we have many many medical

issues going on with autism so I don't know if any of you know of

these things. Thanks for any help!

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Good to hear from someone else that this could be toxins.

It really caught me off guard. The Dr's office that put us on this

Dr. never told us that we could have this " die-off " .

The Pigment thing actually starte before the diet. But these kids

have so many mineral & vitamin deficiencies that I wondered if this

was something else going on that we didn't notice till she started

getting some color from the sun.

Anyone else experience the stringy poop?

Thanks!

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> Sounds like the sweating could definitely be her body's way of

detoxing. As far as the other symptoms, do you mean these have newly

appeared since starting the diet? If so, I'd say yes, it's probably

die-off related. She's been on the diet less than a week.... BIG

changes are going on down in the gut. This affects her entire

system. Be sure she drinks plenty of (legal) fluids.

>

> Patti, mom to Katera

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> Side-effects of diet

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> My family started this diet last Sunday for my autistic

daughter. She

> has been sweatig like crazy when she sleeps. Is she possible

sweating

> out toxins?? Anyone ever heard of string poop? What about white

> spots on skin (i.e. pigment issue). I know we have many many

medical

> issues going on with autism so I don't know if any of you know

of

> these things. Thanks for any help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Have you taken her temperature? My son Ben, 16, had fevers from 100-

104 on and off for over a month. Some blood tests indicated it was die

off. I was worried. He is awesome now--looks and feels better.

I didn't think he had one, but during a physical...they discovered it.

A little embarrassed! It was at least 101 that day.

Lorraine

SCD 6 months

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> My family started this diet last Sunday for my autistic daughter.

She

> has been sweatig like crazy when she sleeps. Is she possible

sweating

> out toxins?? Anyone ever heard of string poop? What about white

> spots on skin (i.e. pigment issue). I know we have many many medical

> issues going on with autism so I don't know if any of you know of

> these things. Thanks for any help!

>

[Guest guest]

no, i Haven't b/c it's only at night. I'll try that out.

> >

> > My family started this diet last Sunday for my autistic

daughter.

> She

> > has been sweatig like crazy when she sleeps. Is she possible

> sweating

> > out toxins?? Anyone ever heard of string poop? What about

white

> > spots on skin (i.e. pigment issue). I know we have many many

medical

> > issues going on with autism so I don't know if any of you know

of

> > these things. Thanks for any help!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I hope I am not hijacking this thread but I have a few questions related to

this same thing.

I am hoping for some insight or advice here. Today is day 5 of scd. We

have introduced applesauce, pearsauce and spinach. This morning for

breakfast we had 24 hour yogurt made with cow's milk, which I test IgG

allergic to (ds has not been tested) and a banana (both new additions but we

have never reacted to bananas before and Spencer was begging for one). Ds

has not really eaten well the last three days. He is saying no to all the

food. Today he ate the yogurt and banana, scrambled eggs, pearsauce, cooked

carrots with a couple of small pieces of chicken, more pearsauce, the intro

cheesecake and that's all. I worried all day that he was not getting enough

protein although he is nursing like a newborn - every two hours. When

should I begin to worry that he is not getting enough food? He is eating

much less than he did before we started and he does seem hungry, just not

interested in THIS food.

Also, tonight he has a fever of 102. Is this related to die off because of

the yogurt? Coincidence? Response of his immune system to the diet? He

has no other symptoms of cold or anything else.

After eating the yogurt I have two huge " lesions " on my tongue. I have been

told before that I have geographic tongue for any of you that know what that

is. The spots are the biggest spots I think I have ever had. I do get them

when I eat things I am not supposed to. And I feel mildly achey all over.

I might be tired from all the damn cooking I have been doing lol. Does the

tongue thing sound like die-off or maybe a reaction to eating cow's milk

yogurt, which I have not had for months? Do I put up with the reaction

because the yogurt is supposed to help so much?

And one last thing. What is die-off supposed to feel like? I am assuming

that it is different for each person. I should add that last night both of

us started taking pascalite clay to help with die off. If it's helping, I

am glad that it is but for the last three days I feel pretty much normal.

Shouldn't I be feeling bad? If I am not, am I doing something wrong?

Tammy - SCD 5 days for food allergies

Mom to Spencer age 2 - asthma, food allergies.

Re: Side-effects of diet

Have you taken her temperature? My son Ben, 16, had fevers from 100-

104 on and off for over a month. Some blood tests indicated it was die

off. I was worried. He is awesome now--looks and feels better.

I didn't think he had one, but during a physical...they discovered it.

A little embarrassed! It was at least 101 that day.

Lorraine

SCD 6 months

[Guest guest]

> He is saying no to all the

> food. Today he ate the yogurt and banana, scrambled eggs, pearsauce,

> cooked

> carrots with a couple of small pieces of chicken, more pearsauce, the

> intro

> cheesecake and that's all.

That sounds pretty good. Some children refuse to eat anything on the

intro diet.

>

> Also, tonight he has a fever of 102. Is this related to die off

> because of

> the yogurt? Coincidence? Response of his immune system to the diet?

> He

> has no other symptoms of cold or anything else.

It could be die off but if it continues please see your doctor.

>

> After eating the yogurt I have two huge " lesions " on my tongue. I

> have been

> told before that I have geographic tongue for any of you that know

> what that

> is.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_784.html

>

Geographic tongue is a marvelous, descriptive name for one of the most

common medical conditions of the tongue. Parents usually are the ones

to notice several large, red, slightly depressed, unusually smooth

patches on the surface of their child's tongue -- when nothing was

there hours before. Often the red areas are bordered with distinct

white bands. The sharp borders of these irregularly shaped lesions give

the surface of the tongue the appearance of a map, perhaps a map of a

group of uncharted islands. The rather dramatic appearance of

geographic tongue looks to many like a burn, or like some kind of nasty

infection.

> The spots are the biggest spots I think I have ever had. I do get them

> when I eat things I am not supposed to. And I feel mildly achey all

> over.

> I might be tired from all the damn cooking I have been doing lol.

> Does the

> tongue thing sound like die-off or maybe a reaction to eating cow's

> milk

> yogurt, which I have not had for months? Do I put up with the reaction

> because the yogurt is supposed to help so much?

Yogurt should be introduced gradually if you haven't had it in a while

and goat's milk yogurt may be better tolerated. As an adult on the

diet, I use the goat's milk that is recommended for the children.

Occasionally I get an itchy leg from legal dairy but not always.

>

>

> And one last thing. What is die-off supposed to feel like?

It's a bit like the flu. Achy, tired, headache etc.

>

>

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

Tammy,

It does also seem to me that he is eating quite well for a brand-new SCD kid. I

wouldn't worry. You say he is refusing all the food.... but then you say he is

eating:

<<yogurt and banana, scrambled eggs, pearsauce, cooked

carrots with a couple of small pieces of chicken, more pearsauce, the intro

cheesecake >>

....plus, that he is nursing a lot. I think you'd be surprised to know how many

calories he is making up for with breast milk. That really sounds okay to me.

The fever definitely sounds die-off related to me. And the achiness you're

experiencing probably is, too.

I don't know much about geographic tongue... except that my younger sister had

it, and my six-yr-old granddaughter, too. I've heard it mentioned on this list

before, as being a symptom of gut-dysbiosis of some kind.... but am not sure

about that.

I don't know anything about the use of pasculite clay. We usually recommend that

people use activated charcoal... or epsom salts baths... to deal with die-off

symptoms.

I think you can expect your son's appetite and acceptance of the new foods to

pick up soon... but in the meantime, I would not worry. He will be okay eating a

bit less protein in food form for a while. Your milk certainly has quite a bit.

Remember, if he had bad gut pathogens flourishing in his intestinal tract, THEY

are starving and wanting him to find starchy carbs and sugar.... so if he is

asking for, begging for, his old favorites, the messages are in part coming from

the " bad guys " who are trying whatever they can to survive. The cravings come

from them! Once they've departed in significant numbers, cravings subside and

the " new foods " start to appeal more.

Have you looked at some of the " sneaky " recipes on www.pecanbread.com ? Look in

the recipe section, but also in the " overcoming difficulties " section.

As far as adding in the yogurt, we do *usually* suggest that it be started in

very small amounts.... and in goat yogurt form... for anyone who has been dairy

free prior to starting the diet. And it is usually not started right in the very

beginning, if someone has had past reactions/intolerance to dairy. You might

want to scale back a bit... or take a day or so off from the yogurt and see how

your tongue feels.

Patti

Re: Side-effects of diet

Have you taken her temperature? My son Ben, 16, had fevers from 100-

104 on and off for over a month. Some blood tests indicated it was die

off. I was worried. He is awesome now--looks and feels better.

I didn't think he had one, but during a physical...they discovered it.

A little embarrassed! It was at least 101 that day.

Lorraine

SCD 6 months