Re: The Amount of Protein in the Diet

June 28, 2006

Anoinette,

Kids are so amazing because they don't analyze as much as we do. If her body is

craving fish oil its probably because she needs it. I remember when I got out of

the hospital and I was incredibly underweight (95 lbs on a 5'4 " frame) I craved

fish and I am not a big fish eater. I figured I probably some omega fatty acid

of some sort.

I don't think 40% is too much but I would not go over that. Does she drink the

juices? There's some carbs. Will she eat the gelatin?-then she gets carbs and

protein. Can she tolerate the tomato soup in BTVC with cheese?- again carbs and

protein together.

Just a few thoughts.

God Bless, Charlene

UC 8 years

SCD 5 1/2 years

Guys, I am also worrying about the amount of protein KIKI is eating again. I

know that I have harped on this before. Yet no one had much to tell me. So I ask

again.

Does anyone think that 40% is too high??? I Can Not get her to eat more carbs!

She seems to show no ill affect. Yet the doctor tells me to feed her more carbs.

I offer, but You can't force the child! She will not eat the baked goods and too

much fruit gives her loose stools.

I I have done research on this. Some experts on the " paleo diet " say that any

where from 20-40% protein is OK. Elaine herself says that SCD reflects the

original diet of mankind, but did she mean this?????? WHO DO I TRUST, and what

should I do?

All she wants to do is eat protein and she craves the fat and wants to eat

that too! She actually asks to take the fish oil. Does this mean anything, or is

she just strange?

More ideas please. As all know here, I am 100% for SCD....so if anyone knows

what Elaine thought, please tell us. I have been searching in her arch hives and

can't find anything that helpful.

Thanks, Antoinette mother to Kiki-2 celiac/malabsorption/leaky gut/mild autism

June 28, 2006

Thank you Charlene for coming to the rescue. I am trying to figure

out why we have been in a slump. Carol Off serve has suggested that

high protein can cause high amonia levels and ketosis. The doctor has

sent us to an EXPENSIVE Metabolic Specialist thanks to high amonia

levels. No one until now has made the connection. Thank you Carol!

Maybe I can lower her levels by taking your advice and trying to get

her to " make " her eat something else. If I hide the vegetables she

will not eat the meat. Like many kids here she is very smart and

doesn't trust food.

But this tomato soup idea and cheese is a good one! She loves

tomatoes! Yet, If had her way, DUCK and FISH are all she

would eat! She eats the duck fat too! SHe is just craving fats too.

Yet others are right, " I am the mother " . I wouldn't give it to her

candy if this is all she wanted. I just don't want her to loose

weight, the high protein was not on purpose...this is all she

eats...her plate always has other things on it. I will have to crack

down now that I realize that it is making her sick.

I have yet to do my own research on high amonia levels and ketosis.

If anybody has more time than me and can help I would appreciate it.

The doctors are not all that helpful. As too many of us here know.

Thanks, Antoinette mom to KIki-2 celiac/mild autism

June 28, 2006

> Thank you Charlene for coming to the rescue. I am trying to figure

> out why we have been in a slump. Carol Off serve has suggested that

> high protein can cause high amonia levels and ketosis.

I cannot take credit for this. Patti clarified to me that high protein

alone raises ammonia levels. Too much protein and fat eaten together

without sufficient carbs can cause ketosis.

Explain to your doctor that you will be doing your best to balance the

diet and will hide carbs in protein when possible and will delay

introduction of raw foods and foods that are unpeeled and seeded and

will try to be vigilant about Kiki getting into foods she is not ready

for.

There can be more than one reason for a slump and sometimes even a

slump for no apparent reason.

( SCD will have its ups and downs over time but I find it is still the

best option for me.)

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

June 28, 2006

I would spend more time trying to get your child to eat a variety of foods, and

less researching ammonia and ketosis. Find what is causing the food selectivity.

If you are going to do some tests, I would save the money from the expensive

specialist and go get a hair analysis, and get a free lead blood test at the

health department and go from there.

Summer

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