New here with gross ?'s about diaper stuff...

[Guest guest]

Sorry but I need help with bm analysis and what it means and how it

should guide my SCD diet plans for my daughter. She is about 12-13

days SCD. She is having BMs about every 3 days now (had been having

every day). They are now normal color! YEAH!! They are still

smelly. They seem to have yeast in them and some stretchy bands (is

that mucous or yeast?). They are not much larger in size. They are

about 3/4 formed and about 1/4 diarrhea. The last 1/4 that is loose

has undigested food. Tonight I noticed spinach and carrot bits (that

had been chopped and steamed). What does it mean if it has been

digested through part of the stool but not all? Is that a sign of

developing intolerance over a period of exposure? Or just a motility

issue - the stuff in there longer is getting better digested, stuff

passing through faster not? I'm using enzymes so I wonder if that

could be an influence too? I have heard some people talk about food

rotation - is this why they do that? Thanks for any insight. I am

planning to order legal probios and to order yogurt starter to help

grow some good bacteria!! Jen

[Guest guest]

Jen,

It sounds to me like your daughter is not yet able to tolerate and digest

carrots and spinich... at least not in the form you are serving them. If you're

seeing undigested bits, she may not be chewing well enough. Many of us have had

to resort to pureeing some of the veggies... and either hiding them in meatloaf,

chicken pancakes, etc.... or adding the puree to soups, stews.

Yes the " strechy " stuff has been reported by some to be yeast that had " passed

on " , so to speak. The variation in stool consistency is pretty common at this

point.

It sounds like you're on the right track.... but you may need to mash well or

puree some of those things. The goal is to make ALL food as easy to digest as

possible at this point. Her gut has brand new exposed and tender tissues in

there... that are needing to get used to working properly again.

Yes, it will be ESSENTIAL to get some good flora going on in there.

Patti

New here with gross ?'s about diaper stuff...

Sorry but I need help with bm analysis and what it means and how it

should guide my SCD diet plans for my daughter. She is about 12-13

days SCD. She is having BMs about every 3 days now (had been having

every day). They are now normal color! YEAH!! They are still

smelly. They seem to have yeast in them and some stretchy bands (is

that mucous or yeast?). They are not much larger in size. They are

about 3/4 formed and about 1/4 diarrhea. The last 1/4 that is loose

has undigested food. Tonight I noticed spinach and carrot bits (that

had been chopped and steamed). What does it mean if it has been

digested through part of the stool but not all? Is that a sign of

developing intolerance over a period of exposure? Or just a motility

issue - the stuff in there longer is getting better digested, stuff

passing through faster not? I'm using enzymes so I wonder if that

could be an influence too? I have heard some people talk about food

rotation - is this why they do that? Thanks for any insight. I am

planning to order legal probios and to order yogurt starter to help

grow some good bacteria!! Jen

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen

Is she having carrot and spinach every day?

It is still very early in the diet for your daughter. She has come a long way

in only 13 days. Some of the problem may be that she isn't tolerating steamed

veggies yet and may need the carrots cooked longer.

So, you could either 1.) wait a couple of days to see if she just needs more

time to heal or 2.)cook the carrots (boil) longer

Does she receive spinach every day some do have trouble with it if given too

soon.

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

Sorry but I need help with bm analysis and what it means and how it

should guide my SCD diet plans for my daughter. She is about 12-13

days SCD. She is having BMs about every 3 days now (had been having

every day). They are now normal color! YEAH!! They are still

smelly. They seem to have yeast in them and some stretchy bands (is

that mucous or yeast?). They are not much larger in size. They are

about 3/4 formed and about 1/4 diarrhea. The last 1/4 that is loose

has undigested food. Tonight I noticed spinach and carrot bits (that

had been chopped and steamed). What does it mean if it has been

digested through part of the stool but not all? Is that a sign of

developing intolerance over a period of exposure? Or just a motility

issue - the stuff in there longer is getting better digested, stuff

passing through faster not? I'm using enzymes so I wonder if that

could be an influence too? I have heard some people talk about food

rotation - is this why they do that? Thanks for any insight. I am

planning to order legal probios and to order yogurt starter to help

grow some good bacteria!! Jen

[Guest guest]

I had been giving her about a tablespoon of spinach/carrot steamed

shredded in her morning omelette, every day. I get worried about

too much protein and since her yeast is bad I get worried about too

much fruit. So I have been trying to balance things out. Today I

decided to puree the spinach/carrot mix with the egg. I think she

is not chewing things well - so that is probably part of the issue

but your right about her GI tract being sensitive. I had introduced

some steamed pineapple and a couple pieces came through, so that

would have to be steamed and pureed too. It seems the pear, apple,

banana are doing fine. Boiling the veggies longer may be

important. She has loved broccolli forever and seems to do okay

with that. Thanks. It helps to get feedback. Go slow seems key,

introduce the probios, cook well, make it so she can digest easy! I

hope I am getting the hang of it! I want this girl to get strong and

grow!! And lots of other things too!.

Jen, mom to Evie 3 1/2, diagnosed PDD-NOS (basically high

functioning autism) SCD almost 2 weeks!!

Oh, And the biting has decreased dramatically! SHe did well in ABA

today!! Now just hoping for the yeast to go down! IT is still up

high...

>

> Hi Jen

>

> Is she having carrot and spinach every day?

>

> It is still very early in the diet for your daughter. She has

come a long way in only 13 days. Some of the problem may be that

she isn't tolerating steamed veggies yet and may need the carrots

cooked longer.

>

> So, you could either 1.) wait a couple of days to see if she just

needs more time to heal or 2.)cook the carrots (boil) longer

>

> Does she receive spinach every day some do have trouble with it if

given too soon.

>

> Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

> mom of and

>

>

> Sorry but I need help with bm analysis and what it means and how

it

> should guide my SCD diet plans for my daughter. She is about 12-13

> days SCD. She is having BMs about every 3 days now (had been

having

> every day). They are now normal color! YEAH!! They are still

> smelly. They seem to have yeast in them and some stretchy bands

(is

> that mucous or yeast?). They are not much larger in size. They are

> about 3/4 formed and about 1/4 diarrhea. The last 1/4 that is

loose

> has undigested food. Tonight I noticed spinach and carrot bits

(that

> had been chopped and steamed). What does it mean if it has been

> digested through part of the stool but not all? Is that a sign of

> developing intolerance over a period of exposure? Or just a

motility

> issue - the stuff in there longer is getting better digested,

stuff

> passing through faster not? I'm using enzymes so I wonder if that

> could be an influence too? I have heard some people talk about

food

> rotation - is this why they do that? Thanks for any insight. I am

> planning to order legal probios and to order yogurt starter to

help

> grow some good bacteria!! Jen

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

> I had been giving her about a tablespoon of spinach/carrot steamed

> shredded in her morning omelette, every day. I get worried about

> too much protein and since her yeast is bad I get worried about

too

> much fruit. So I have been trying to balance things out. Today I

> decided to puree the spinach/carrot mix with the egg. I think she

> is not chewing things well - so that is probably part of the issue

> but your right about her GI tract being sensitive. I had

introduced

> some steamed pineapple and a couple pieces came through, so that

> would have to be steamed and pureed too.

Pineapple is pretty fibrous and pureeing it may help - on the other

hand she just may need a few days at some really easy to digest

foods before proceeding with more complex ones. Introducing only

one new food every few days helps to give you the clearest picture

which foods are tolerated and which you need to wait a little on.

You have a lot of different foods added already so it is kind of

hard to tell which may be a problem.

It seems the pear, apple,

> banana are doing fine. Boiling the veggies longer may be

> important. She has loved broccolli forever and seems to do okay

> with that.

If she continues to have trouble even when the fruit and veggies are

boiled & pureed try removing broccoli for a while since it belongs to

the cabbage family. Cabbage family veggies (cauliflower, kale

cabbage, brocc etc.) are more complex and can cause trouble at the

beginning of the diet when you still have loose stool.

Keep us updated

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Okay - so it sounds like I need to relax a bit about what she is

eating (nutrition wise, carb/protein wise) and just think of it as

gut healing. I know I am probably worrying too much about giving her

a variety of food, making sure she has veggie/carb( inveggies not as

grain obviously). I will keep an eye on things. Back off if

needed!

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> > I had been giving her about a tablespoon of spinach/carrot

steamed

> > shredded in her morning omelette, every day. I get worried about

> > too much protein and since her yeast is bad I get worried about

> too

> > much fruit. So I have been trying to balance things out. Today

I

> > decided to puree the spinach/carrot mix with the egg. I think

she

> > is not chewing things well - so that is probably part of the

issue

> > but your right about her GI tract being sensitive. I had

> introduced

> > some steamed pineapple and a couple pieces came through, so that

> > would have to be steamed and pureed too.

>

> Pineapple is pretty fibrous and pureeing it may help - on the other

> hand she just may need a few days at some really easy to digest

> foods before proceeding with more complex ones. Introducing only

> one new food every few days helps to give you the clearest picture

> which foods are tolerated and which you need to wait a little on.

> You have a lot of different foods added already so it is kind of

> hard to tell which may be a problem.

>

>

> It seems the pear, apple,

> > banana are doing fine. Boiling the veggies longer may be

> > important. She has loved broccolli forever and seems to do okay

> > with that.

>

> If she continues to have trouble even when the fruit and veggies

are

> boiled & pureed try removing broccoli for a while since it belongs

to

> the cabbage family. Cabbage family veggies (cauliflower, kale

> cabbage, brocc etc.) are more complex and can cause trouble at the

> beginning of the diet when you still have loose stool.

>

> Keep us updated

> Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Hope I'm not repeating what someone alreayd wrote, but from our

experience, carrots were very hard to digest. Even pureed carrot

soup. It looked the same going out as it went in. We still don't do

too many carrots, even though we seem to do well on other veggies.

Carrots are very starchy. Also, in case comeone hasn't mentioned it,

it takes a lot of protein to heal a gut. I don't know if you are doing

scd with her or not, but I couldn't get enough meat when I started and

neither could my daughter. I felt much better after people started

mentioning that it takes quite a bit of protein to heal tissue.

This is just our experience, hope it helps.

Colby

scd 03/05

celiac