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Hi to all.....

Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of all

of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

awhile and then you're right back to square one.

Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think it

was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day, forgive

me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had their

gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to STILL

experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out did

the panc start acting up again?

thanks

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[ Tests & Procedures]

Cholescintigraphy (HIDA Scan)

What is cholescintigraphy?

Cholescintigraphy is a test done by nuclear medicine physicians to diagnose

obstruction of the bile ducts (for example, by a gallstone or a tumor),

disease of the gallbladder, and bile leaks. It sometimes is referred to as a

HIDA scan or a gallbladder scan.

How is cholescintigraphy done?

For cholescintigraphy, a radioactive chemical is injected intravenously into

the patient. The test chemical is removed from the blood by the liver and

secreted into the bile which is produced by the liver. The test chemical

then disperses everywhere that the bile goes-into the bile ducts, the

gallbladder, and the intestine. A camera that senses radioactivity (like a

Geiger counter) is then placed over the patient's abdomen and a " picture " of

the liver, bile ducts, and gallbladder is obtained which corresponds to

where the radioactive chemical has traveled within the bile-filled liver,

bile ducts, and gallbladder. Cholescintigraphy takes approximately two

hours.

How are the results of cholescintigraphy used?

There are various patterns of radioactivity that can be seen following the

injection of the radioactive chemical, and each has a different meaning. If

the test chemical is not detected in the liver, a diseased liver is probably

indicated. If the chemical is absorbed by the liver but not secreted into

the bile ducts, there probably is a complete obstruction of the bile ducts

exiting the liver. When the test chemical fails to appear in the

gallbladder, but is detected in the intestine, there probably is an

obstruction of the cystic duct leading to and from the gallbladder.

(Obstruction is most commonly caused by gallstones and, less commonly, by

tumors. Parasites, and blood clots also may obstruct infrequently.) Finally,

if the chemical appears outside the liver, bile ducts, gallbladder, or

intestine, there probably is a bile leak from the bile ducts or gallbladder.

Cholescintigraphy is most commonly used to diagnose problems with the

gallbladder when other more commonly-performed tests, particularly

ultrasonography, are normal. Cholescintigraphy can be modified with the

addition of an intravenous injection of cholecystokinin, the hormone that is

normally released by the body after a meal. This hormone causes the

gallbladder to contract and squeeze out its bile into the intestine. Reduced

contraction of the gallbladder following cholecystokinin (i.e., reduced

emptying of the radioactivity from the gallbladder) may mean that there is

disease of the gallbladder itself, particularly inflammation or scarring of

the wall.

What are the limitations of cholescintigraphy?

Nonvisualization (the failure of the gallbladder to appear on a

cholescintigraphy scan) of the gallbladder occurs because of disease of the

gallbladder, particularly gallstones. However, nonvisualization does not

necessarily mean that the obstruction is the cause of the patient's problem.

For example, patients with gallstones often have a nonvisualizing

gallbladder due to obstruction of the cystic duct, but the obstruction

causes no symptoms. Thus, cholescintigraphy is helpful only if the patient's

problem is likely- based on the history and physical examination-to be due

to disease of the gallbladder or bile ducts.

With the use of cholecystokinin, poor contraction of the gallbladder can be

seen in some normal individuals. Therefore, reduced contraction does not

always mean that the gallbladder is diseased. Again, cholescintigraphy with

cholecystokinin is helpful only if the patient's problem is likely-based on

the history and physical examination-to be due to disease of the gallbladder

or bile ducts.

Another limitation of cholescintigraphy is that this test does not work when

the patient's serum bilirubin is greater than 15-20 mg%.

What are the side effects of cholescintigraphy?

There are few side effects to cholescintigraphy. Reactions to the

radioactive chemical and cholecystokinin are rare. The amount of

radioactivity that patients are exposed to is small. The radioactive

compound is eliminated in the stool, and the radioactivity deteriorates

rapidly within hours.

What alternatives are there to cholescintigraphy?

Other common means of evaluating the gallbladder and bile ducts include

ultrasonography and computerized tomography (CT or CAT scan).

Cholangiography, either percutaneous (through the skin) or endoscopic (ERCP)

(inserted down the throat), is a radiological procedure in which dye is

injected into the gallbladder and bile ducts and then x-rays are taken.

Newer procedures include endoscopic ultrasonography and magnetic resonance

imaging (MRI) cholangiography. Oral cholecystography in which x-rays are

taken of the gallbladder following ingestion of a dye that is concentrated

in the gallbladder, is rarely done.

HIDA Scan

> Hi to all.....

>

> Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

> show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

> test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

> scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

> bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of all

> of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

> awhile and then you're right back to square one.

>

> Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think it

> was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day, forgive

> me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had their

> gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to STILL

> experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out did

> the panc start acting up again?

>

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Mark....very good information and interesting that it does not

focus ENTIRELY on the gall bladder but also can see bile obstruction,

etc. I'm REALLY hoping that this test will show something, but I got

the feeling the GI doc is going to take out my GB anyway.

Appreciate it as always....

> [ Tests & Procedures]

>

> Cholescintigraphy (HIDA Scan)

> What is cholescintigraphy?

>

> Cholescintigraphy is a test done by nuclear medicine physicians to

diagnose

> obstruction of the bile ducts (for example, by a gallstone or a

tumor),

> disease of the gallbladder, and bile leaks. It sometimes is

referred to as a

> HIDA scan or a gallbladder scan.

>

> How is cholescintigraphy done?

>

> For cholescintigraphy, a radioactive chemical is injected

intravenously into

> the patient. The test chemical is removed from the blood by the

liver and

> secreted into the bile which is produced by the liver. The test

chemical

> then disperses everywhere that the bile goes-into the bile ducts,

the

> gallbladder, and the intestine. A camera that senses radioactivity

(like a

> Geiger counter) is then placed over the patient's abdomen and

a " picture " of

> the liver, bile ducts, and gallbladder is obtained which

corresponds to

> where the radioactive chemical has traveled within the bile-filled

liver,

> bile ducts, and gallbladder. Cholescintigraphy takes approximately

two

> hours.

>

> How are the results of cholescintigraphy used?

>

> There are various patterns of radioactivity that can be seen

following the

> injection of the radioactive chemical, and each has a different

meaning. If

> the test chemical is not detected in the liver, a diseased liver is

probably

> indicated. If the chemical is absorbed by the liver but not

secreted into

> the bile ducts, there probably is a complete obstruction of the

bile ducts

> exiting the liver. When the test chemical fails to appear in the

> gallbladder, but is detected in the intestine, there probably is an

> obstruction of the cystic duct leading to and from the gallbladder.

> (Obstruction is most commonly caused by gallstones and, less

commonly, by

> tumors. Parasites, and blood clots also may obstruct infrequently.)

Finally,

> if the chemical appears outside the liver, bile ducts, gallbladder,

or

> intestine, there probably is a bile leak from the bile ducts or

gallbladder.

>

> Cholescintigraphy is most commonly used to diagnose problems with

the

> gallbladder when other more commonly-performed tests, particularly

> ultrasonography, are normal. Cholescintigraphy can be modified with

the

> addition of an intravenous injection of cholecystokinin, the

hormone that is

> normally released by the body after a meal. This hormone causes the

> gallbladder to contract and squeeze out its bile into the

intestine. Reduced

> contraction of the gallbladder following cholecystokinin (i.e.,

reduced

> emptying of the radioactivity from the gallbladder) may mean that

there is

> disease of the gallbladder itself, particularly inflammation or

scarring of

> the wall.

>

> What are the limitations of cholescintigraphy?

>

> Nonvisualization (the failure of the gallbladder to appear on a

> cholescintigraphy scan) of the gallbladder occurs because of

disease of the

> gallbladder, particularly gallstones. However, nonvisualization

does not

> necessarily mean that the obstruction is the cause of the patient's

problem.

> For example, patients with gallstones often have a nonvisualizing

> gallbladder due to obstruction of the cystic duct, but the

obstruction

> causes no symptoms. Thus, cholescintigraphy is helpful only if the

patient's

> problem is likely- based on the history and physical examination-to

be due

> to disease of the gallbladder or bile ducts.

>

> With the use of cholecystokinin, poor contraction of the

gallbladder can be

> seen in some normal individuals. Therefore, reduced contraction

does not

> always mean that the gallbladder is diseased. Again,

cholescintigraphy with

> cholecystokinin is helpful only if the patient's problem is likely-

based on

> the history and physical examination-to be due to disease of the

gallbladder

> or bile ducts.

>

> Another limitation of cholescintigraphy is that this test does not

work when

> the patient's serum bilirubin is greater than 15-20 mg%.

>

> What are the side effects of cholescintigraphy?

>

> There are few side effects to cholescintigraphy. Reactions to the

> radioactive chemical and cholecystokinin are rare. The amount of

> radioactivity that patients are exposed to is small. The radioactive

> compound is eliminated in the stool, and the radioactivity

deteriorates

> rapidly within hours.

>

> What alternatives are there to cholescintigraphy?

>

> Other common means of evaluating the gallbladder and bile ducts

include

> ultrasonography and computerized tomography (CT or CAT scan).

> Cholangiography, either percutaneous (through the skin) or

endoscopic (ERCP)

> (inserted down the throat), is a radiological procedure in which

dye is

> injected into the gallbladder and bile ducts and then x-rays are

taken.

> Newer procedures include endoscopic ultrasonography and magnetic

resonance

> imaging (MRI) cholangiography. Oral cholecystography in which x-

rays are

> taken of the gallbladder following ingestion of a dye that is

concentrated

> in the gallbladder, is rarely done.

>

>

>

> HIDA Scan

>

>

> > Hi to all.....

> >

> > Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

> > show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> > patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

> > test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

> > scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> > functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

> > bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of

all

> > of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

> > awhile and then you're right back to square one.

> >

> > Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think it

> > was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

forgive

> > me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

their

> > gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to

STILL

> > experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out

did

> > the panc start acting up again?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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If I can help with anything else, please let me know. I hope this finds you

and yours well......Mark

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> >

> >

> > > Hi to all.....

> > >

> > > Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

> > > show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> > > patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

> > > test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

> > > scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> > > functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

> > > bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of

> all

> > > of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

> > > awhile and then you're right back to square one.

> > >

> > > Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think it

> > > was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

> forgive

> > > me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

> their

> > > gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to

> STILL

> > > experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out

> did

> > > the panc start acting up again?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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HIDA Scan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi to all.....

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected)

> didn't

> > > > > show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> > > > > patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test

> after

> > > > > test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a

> HIDA

> > > > > scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> > > > > functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a

> gall

> > > > > bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end

> of

> > > all

> > > > > of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works

> for

> > > > > awhile and then you're right back to square one.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I

> think it

> > > > > was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

> > > forgive

> > > > > me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

> > > their

> > > > > gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on

> to

> > > STILL

> > > > > experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB

> out

> > > did

> > > > > the panc start acting up again?

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Thank you Mark.....appreciate it!!

Warm wishes

> > > [ Tests & Procedures]

> > >

> > > Cholescintigraphy (HIDA Scan)

> > > What is cholescintigraphy?

> > >

> > > Cholescintigraphy is a test done by nuclear medicine physicians

to

> > diagnose

> > > obstruction of the bile ducts (for example, by a gallstone or a

> > tumor),

> > > disease of the gallbladder, and bile leaks. It sometimes is

> > referred to as a

> > > HIDA scan or a gallbladder scan.

> > >

> > > How is cholescintigraphy done?

> > >

> > > For cholescintigraphy, a radioactive chemical is injected

> > intravenously into

> > > the patient. The test chemical is removed from the blood by the

> > liver and

> > > secreted into the bile which is produced by the liver. The test

> > chemical

> > > then disperses everywhere that the bile goes-into the bile

ducts,

> > the

> > > gallbladder, and the intestine. A camera that senses

radioactivity

> > (like a

> > > Geiger counter) is then placed over the patient's abdomen and

> > a " picture " of

> > > the liver, bile ducts, and gallbladder is obtained which

> > corresponds to

> > > where the radioactive chemical has traveled within the bile-

filled

> > liver,

> > > bile ducts, and gallbladder. Cholescintigraphy takes

approximately

> > two

> > > hours.

> > >

> > > How are the results of cholescintigraphy used?

> > >

> > > There are various patterns of radioactivity that can be seen

> > following the

> > > injection of the radioactive chemical, and each has a different

> > meaning. If

> > > the test chemical is not detected in the liver, a diseased

liver is

> > probably

> > > indicated. If the chemical is absorbed by the liver but not

> > secreted into

> > > the bile ducts, there probably is a complete obstruction of the

> > bile ducts

> > > exiting the liver. When the test chemical fails to appear in the

> > > gallbladder, but is detected in the intestine, there probably

is an

> > > obstruction of the cystic duct leading to and from the

gallbladder.

> > > (Obstruction is most commonly caused by gallstones and, less

> > commonly, by

> > > tumors. Parasites, and blood clots also may obstruct

infrequently.)

> > Finally,

> > > if the chemical appears outside the liver, bile ducts,

gallbladder,

> > or

> > > intestine, there probably is a bile leak from the bile ducts or

> > gallbladder.

> > >

> > > Cholescintigraphy is most commonly used to diagnose problems

with

> > the

> > > gallbladder when other more commonly-performed tests,

particularly

> > > ultrasonography, are normal. Cholescintigraphy can be modified

with

> > the

> > > addition of an intravenous injection of cholecystokinin, the

> > hormone that is

> > > normally released by the body after a meal. This hormone causes

the

> > > gallbladder to contract and squeeze out its bile into the

> > intestine. Reduced

> > > contraction of the gallbladder following cholecystokinin (i.e.,

> > reduced

> > > emptying of the radioactivity from the gallbladder) may mean

that

> > there is

> > > disease of the gallbladder itself, particularly inflammation or

> > scarring of

> > > the wall.

> > >

> > > What are the limitations of cholescintigraphy?

> > >

> > > Nonvisualization (the failure of the gallbladder to appear on a

> > > cholescintigraphy scan) of the gallbladder occurs because of

> > disease of the

> > > gallbladder, particularly gallstones. However, nonvisualization

> > does not

> > > necessarily mean that the obstruction is the cause of the

patient's

> > problem.

> > > For example, patients with gallstones often have a

nonvisualizing

> > > gallbladder due to obstruction of the cystic duct, but the

> > obstruction

> > > causes no symptoms. Thus, cholescintigraphy is helpful only if

the

> > patient's

> > > problem is likely- based on the history and physical

examination-to

> > be due

> > > to disease of the gallbladder or bile ducts.

> > >

> > > With the use of cholecystokinin, poor contraction of the

> > gallbladder can be

> > > seen in some normal individuals. Therefore, reduced contraction

> > does not

> > > always mean that the gallbladder is diseased. Again,

> > cholescintigraphy with

> > > cholecystokinin is helpful only if the patient's problem is

likely-

> > based on

> > > the history and physical examination-to be due to disease of the

> > gallbladder

> > > or bile ducts.

> > >

> > > Another limitation of cholescintigraphy is that this test does

not

> > work when

> > > the patient's serum bilirubin is greater than 15-20 mg%.

> > >

> > > What are the side effects of cholescintigraphy?

> > >

> > > There are few side effects to cholescintigraphy. Reactions to

the

> > > radioactive chemical and cholecystokinin are rare. The amount of

> > > radioactivity that patients are exposed to is small. The

radioactive

> > > compound is eliminated in the stool, and the radioactivity

> > deteriorates

> > > rapidly within hours.

> > >

> > > What alternatives are there to cholescintigraphy?

> > >

> > > Other common means of evaluating the gallbladder and bile ducts

> > include

> > > ultrasonography and computerized tomography (CT or CAT scan).

> > > Cholangiography, either percutaneous (through the skin) or

> > endoscopic (ERCP)

> > > (inserted down the throat), is a radiological procedure in which

> > dye is

> > > injected into the gallbladder and bile ducts and then x-rays are

> > taken.

> > > Newer procedures include endoscopic ultrasonography and magnetic

> > resonance

> > > imaging (MRI) cholangiography. Oral cholecystography in which x-

> > rays are

> > > taken of the gallbladder following ingestion of a dye that is

> > concentrated

> > > in the gallbladder, is rarely done.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > HIDA Scan

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi to all.....

> > > >

> > > > Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected)

didn't

> > > > show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> > > > patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test

after

> > > > test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a

HIDA

> > > > scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> > > > functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a

gall

> > > > bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end

of

> > all

> > > > of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works

for

> > > > awhile and then you're right back to square one.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I

think it

> > > > was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

> > forgive

> > > > me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

> > their

> > > > gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on

to

> > STILL

> > > > experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB

out

> > did

> > > > the panc start acting up again?

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi ,

I am one of those that had her gallbladder out and still had

pancreas problems - in fact I got increasingly worse afterwards

to where I am today. But, my particular case may be different

than a typical one - my pancreas was damaged during an

abdominal surgery and it was wishful thinking on the surgeons

part that the gallbladder was the culprit instead of the pancreas.

So I think that it wasn't a needed surgery other than for the

purposes of eliminating one possible cause of the pain, etc. I

had a HIDA for gall bladder function and MRCP to rule out gall

stones in the CBD prior to my cholecystectomy and both of these

were non-diagnostic. It wasn't until I did a MRCP with CCK last

spring did it come to light that I had pancrease divisum. A normal

MRCP doesn't pick this up from what I understand. My pancreas

pain diminished almost all the way maybe for a couple of

months then got progressively worse to really bad about a year

and a half after the removal.

But , removing the gallbladder is a logical thing to try because if

that it what is causing the problem (and for a lot of people it

does) it is a relatively easy and safe thing to do.

Laurie

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Hi ,

My name is Kim and I'm new to the group. I live near Baltimore and

see the docs at s Hopkins. Whenever I'm stressed out over the

pancreatitis, the group really helps. I hope what I pass onto you

helps you.

I had a HIDA scan early in my pancreatitis (before it was

diagnosed). It's a long test - take a magazine or book, they do let

you read while you lie on the xray table. Mine was done with

chemical that would make the gall bladder contract. It was a bit

uncomfortable with my gall bladder contracting. My results showed a

dysfunctional gall bladder so they took it out (almost a year after

the HIDA scan).

While the doctors were busy patting themselves on the back, I had

another bout of ER level pancreatitis - within a week or so. I don't

think the removal of my gall bladder changed my pancreatitis one

bit. The doc's told me removal of the gall bladder helps 70 percent

of the time.

I hope it works for you.

Best of luck,

Kim

> Hi to all.....

>

> Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

> show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

> test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

> scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

> bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of

all

> of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

> awhile and then you're right back to square one.

>

> Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think it

> was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

forgive

> me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

their

> gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to

STILL

> experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out

did

> the panc start acting up again?

>

> thanks

>

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Thanks Laurie. Your case seems to have " presented " differently than

mine in that your panc had been damaged in the surgery. I can't

believe that they knew your panc had been damaged and yet still tried

blaming the GB as the culprit.......sheesh......sounds like a pretty

clear cut thing to me and I'm not a doctor.

I was told to wait after the HIDA scan today and have my GI doc

paged,which they did, but he was apparently in surgery. So, here I

am back home again, waiting for a call from my GI doc.

Well, as I'm typing this I got the call from my GI doc and he said

the HIDA scan showed that my GB wasn't functioning at all. First

part of test shows the organs/biliary tract and GB with the

radioactive dye IV. Second part is supposed to contract the GB. I

remember that I didn't feel much of anything when they did that part

of the test and was thinking, hmmmmmmm.......

So, I have to now go thru the weekend on pain meds, nausea meds,

etc., until I can see the surgeon who, of course, can't see me until

3:30 pm on Monday and that's just to SEE ME!!! I'm assuming that

sometime next week I will be having GB surgery.

I really hope this takes care of the panc problems, but I'm not too

optimistic for some reason -- I don't know why. Even though he said

my GB looked very abnormal and wasn't functioning at all basically.

Any thoughts from anyone on this who may have gone thru this, gotten

their hopes up only to have them dashed again when the panc started

rearing its ugly little head again???

Thanks again

> Hi ,

>

> I am one of those that had her gallbladder out and still had

> pancreas problems - in fact I got increasingly worse afterwards

> to where I am today. But, my particular case may be different

> than a typical one - my pancreas was damaged during an

> abdominal surgery and it was wishful thinking on the surgeons

> part that the gallbladder was the culprit instead of the pancreas.

> So I think that it wasn't a needed surgery other than for the

> purposes of eliminating one possible cause of the pain, etc. I

> had a HIDA for gall bladder function and MRCP to rule out gall

> stones in the CBD prior to my cholecystectomy and both of these

> were non-diagnostic. It wasn't until I did a MRCP with CCK last

> spring did it come to light that I had pancrease divisum. A normal

> MRCP doesn't pick this up from what I understand. My pancreas

> pain diminished almost all the way maybe for a couple of

> months then got progressively worse to really bad about a year

> and a half after the removal.

>

> But , removing the gallbladder is a logical thing to try because if

> that it what is causing the problem (and for a lot of people it

> does) it is a relatively easy and safe thing to do.

>

> Laurie

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Kim: Thanks.....I had the HIDA scan today and I never noticed any

more pain that I was already in.....with the contraction stuff they

put in, I didn't notice any pain at all. GI doc says my GB is very

abnormal looking, so as I have already posted I have an appt to the

surgeon on Monday at 3:30 EST. So, guess I have to suffer thru the

weekend and most of Monday with this (in my humble opinion that is

really quite unsat!!).......anywhoo, I'm rather skeptical of this

being the " cause " of my pancreatitis, but I'm trying to think

positively (trying mind you!!) that this will take care of it for

good.

Thanks for your reply and hoping you're feeling well today....

> > Hi to all.....

> >

> > Well, I went to GI doc today and the MRCP (as I suspected) didn't

> > show anything.......surprise, surprise. He said he's had many

> > patients that come in with the exact same symptoms and test after

> > test shows nothing. So, I'm now (not yet scheduled) for a HIDA

> > scan/test. Doc said he suspects that my gall bladder is not

> > functioning as it should and that " you probably won't have a gall

> > bladder much longer. " So.....I'm hoping that will be the end of

> all

> > of this for me, but as I've read here, sometimes that works for

> > awhile and then you're right back to square one.

> >

> > Anyone with info with regard to the HIDA scan (although I think

it

> > was Heidi ?? that posted something about this the other day,

> forgive

> > me for not remembering who it was). Also, anyone that has had

> their

> > gall bladder out as result of all of " this " and then went on to

> STILL

> > experience the panc problems? Also how long after having GB out

> did

> > the panc start acting up again?

> >

> > thanks

> >

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