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I'll add my two cents about bath toys as it was a favorite harping subject of

mine even before we found out that Patti had cf. We don't allow toys in the

bath that don't either open completly or aren't sealed off completly. In other

words no squirty toys. The reason I am this way is that one time when I was

little, my mom wanted to buy me a new doll for the bath. I didn't want her to.

She cut it open and showed me the black goo inside. It was too gross for

words.

We wash our toys with a soap scum remover and then spray them with tilex mold

and mildew remover, let them set and then rinse them very well. I do this every

time I clean the tub, which is at least three times a week.

On the moping, just use bleach water, or amonia water. They clean as well as

anything. I do have to say though, I like the swiffer mop as I can throw out

that yucky pad instead of just rinsing the mop head and letting it mildew. It

never dried around here since my four are still small enough that spills and

messes happen multiple times a day.

Dawn mom of 4, 7 and under, the youngest wcf

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1. Flax seeds--I have no clue. We don't use them.

2. Vegetarian diet--hard to get enough fat and protein a cfer needs

with vegetarian diets. My mom is vegetarian and she has tons of

carbs in her diet but not enough protein. It is possible but you

would just have to find creative ways to get fat in her.

3. Bath--as long as you don't let the bath toys sit with water in

them, they should be fine. I would suggest cleaning the bath tub

once a week with a disenfectant and spray the toys down as well.

Bleach is a good disenfectant but it is a strong smell.

4. Swiffer wet or clorox floor cleaner are fine. The easier it is,

the more you will use it and the more clean the floors will be. Hard

floors are better since you can clean them easier and wipe the dust

away.

5. Reducing germs--I would go around the house once a week with

those handy clorox wipes and wipe down all the surfaces. Windows

where my kid could touch (and then follow up with windex), door

handles, bathrooms, kitchen counters, toys, etc. I also kept

sanitizer for hands in several places and whenever someone came into

the house, I asked them to use it.

My son didn't get any colds until he was 17 months old so we must

have been doing something right!!

Good luck and keep in mind that you can't get rid of all the germs.

And don't believe those people when they tell you that your kid has

to build up resistance. Your cfer is different. The longer we can

keep them healthy while we wait for a cure, the better.

>

mom to Ashton 28 months www.babyfergie.com

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Dear ,

I have said this before: let your child be a child, Pseudomonas are

everywhere. No amount of desinfectant is going to make a bit of

difference with respect to these bugs. What does help is heavy hand

washing, you would be amazed to know where pseudomonas are found,

just about anywhere where is moist and warm, if it is dry no matter

how dirty, pseudomonas will not make it in dry areas.

I keep quoting Torsten who said and I follow his advice, let the

water run from faucets in the morning, about 3 gallons, and no wet

towels are left around.

With respect to diet if they are picky eaters then whatever works,

really. I only use real butter and extra virgin oil, my kids love

peanuts but other than that they love all fast food which I try to

curve but sometimes is hard.

a is at an age that she is able to understand so I am going to

buy the Omega diet book, for my boys it would fly over their heads.

Good luck,

mom of a 10 wcf, Venanzio 7 nocf, Pepe 3 nocf

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have a few random questions that I am hoping you all will be able

to

> answer. First, the information on the Omega Diet sounds great, I'm

> going to get the book and check it out. I have added flax seeds

into my

> daughter's diet . are they hard to digest? They keep coming out the

> other end just as they went in; I'm wondering if it would be more

> beneficial to grind them up. Also, has anyone tried a vegetarian

diet

> with their child? We do a mostly vegetarian diet (some fish and

some

> dairy too) and I'm wondering if this will be possible for my

daughter as

> well.

>

>

>

> Another question I have is regarding baths. My daughter is 9mo and

> we've been able to get away with bathing her in an infant tub until

> recently. Now that she is joining her brother in the big tub, I am

> wondering if there are things I should be doing to decrease her

chances

> of exposure to PA etc. Do you allow bath toys? Do you clean them

> regularly and with what? Do you clean the tub on a daily basis?

She is

> constantly trying to put things in her mouth and I am worried she

will

> do the same in the tub.

>

>

>

> Next question is about floors. With a toddler and a baby that has

> started crawling everywhere, I feel like I need to mop my floors and

> vacuum daily. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good mop? I

have

> been using a swiffer but I'm not sure I want those chemicals on my

floor

> either.especially with her crawling on them and putting her hands

in her

> mouth all the time.

>

>

>

> Is there anything else that people do, in the house, to reduce the

> chances of exposure to Pseudomonas or other bugs? All we really do

is

> wash our hands a lot; I'm thinking there must be more.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> Mom to Ellie 9mo wCF and Jack 3yo woCF

>

>

>

>

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> 2. Vegetarian diet--hard to get enough fat and protein a cfer

needs

> with vegetarian diets. My mom is vegetarian and she has tons of

> carbs in her diet but not enough protein. It is possible but you

> would just have to find creative ways to get fat in her.

The book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Lappe talks a lot

about protein.

Meat is not the only or best source of protein. The best protein

sources in terms of your body's usability are eggs, milk, fish,

cheese, meat and poultry, brown rice, oats, wheat, polished rice,

corn meal, tofu, soybeans, peas, chickpeas, pinto beans, lentils,

sunflower seeds, cashews, sesame seeds, walnuts and peanuts.

Lucky age 24 NO CF

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I would like to add my two cents on the swiffer mop. I too like the fact that

I can toss it out with the trash because I don't want a wet mop hanging

around either. I have found that I buy the swiffer wet mop pads and this is what

I

have been doing for a while. Let the pads " kinda " dry out; I know its sounds

silly to buy them wet then let them dry but I make my own cleaning solution and

put it into the pads. The wet pads are really a lot thicker than the other

and hold the solution so you get a good wet surface. I found a professional

Lysol cleaner at BJs and that's what I use. On the label it says that it kills

Salmonella choleraesuis, Staphylococcus aureus, Pseudomanas aeruginosa,

Streptococcus pyogenes, Listeria monocytognes and E.coli. Also kills virusus -

Rotavirus, Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV), Herpes Simples Type 1, Herpes

Simples

Type 2. Christian has allergies to dust mites so we don't have carpet and I

can get the floors all done and let them dry while he is at school and the

swiffer makes it much easier.

Tina Mom to Christian 11 yowcf

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GREAT THOUGHTS. These should be posted every so often so all of us are

reminded (even grandmoms) .There are newbees here & we tend to forget. That

was such a graphic explanation.......GREAT!!! Oh, the germs we can make

with them -----YUCK...thanks again. (we grandmoms need to know , so our

presents reflect that care too!!)--those squirting toys are soooooo cute &

were hard to resist--but with your graphic picture ----helped make them less

desirable -:):):) hehe

MUCH LOVE & HUGS,

GrandmomBEV

Re: random questions

I'll add my two cents about bath toys as it was a favorite harping subject

of mine even before we found out that Patti had cf. We don't allow toys in

the bath that don't either open completly or aren't sealed off completly. In

other words no squirty toys. The reason I am this way is that one time when

I was little, my mom wanted to buy me a new doll for the bath. I didn't

want her to. She cut it open and showed me the black goo inside. It was

too gross for words.

We wash our toys with a soap scum remover and then spray them with tilex

mold and mildew remover, let them set and then rinse them very well. I do

this every time I clean the tub, which is at least three times a week.

On the moping, just use bleach water, or amonia water. They clean as well

as anything. I do have to say though, I like the swiffer mop as I can throw

out that yucky pad instead of just rinsing the mop head and letting it

mildew. It never dried around here since my four are still small enough

that spills and messes happen multiple times a day.

Dawn mom of 4, 7 and under, the youngest wcf

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GREAT IDEAS!! smart gal , you are..Thanks for your tips. How about others.

how do you do these " keep away the germs " ideas...?? Thanks to all that

answer with their " tricks against bugs "

LOVE & HUGS,

GrandmomBev

Re: random questions

1. Flax seeds--I have no clue. We don't use them.

2. Vegetarian diet--hard to get enough fat and protein a cfer needs

with vegetarian diets. My mom is vegetarian and she has tons of

carbs in her diet but not enough protein. It is possible but you

would just have to find creative ways to get fat in her.

3. Bath--as long as you don't let the bath toys sit with water in

them, they should be fine. I would suggest cleaning the bath tub

once a week with a disenfectant and spray the toys down as well.

Bleach is a good disenfectant but it is a strong smell.

4. Swiffer wet or clorox floor cleaner are fine. The easier it is,

the more you will use it and the more clean the floors will be. Hard

floors are better since you can clean them easier and wipe the dust

away.

5. Reducing germs--I would go around the house once a week with

those handy clorox wipes and wipe down all the surfaces. Windows

where my kid could touch (and then follow up with windex), door

handles, bathrooms, kitchen counters, toys, etc. I also kept

sanitizer for hands in several places and whenever someone came into

the house, I asked them to use it.

My son didn't get any colds until he was 17 months old so we must

have been doing something right!!

Good luck and keep in mind that you can't get rid of all the germs.

And don't believe those people when they tell you that your kid has

to build up resistance. Your cfer is different. The longer we can

keep them healthy while we wait for a cure, the better.

>

mom to Ashton 28 months www.babyfergie.com

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The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY

be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS.

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Thank you all for your answers and suggestions...this list is so

helpful!!! I am going to throw away all my son's squirt toys today :)

I am also interested in this Lysol cleaner however; I am not familiar

with BJs. Is there somewhere else this is sold or do you have the name

of it, maybe I can find it on the internet. I've also been reading that

vinegar as a natural disinfectant does anyone know if it kills PA?

Thanks again,

Mom to Ellie 9mo wCF and Jack 3yo noCF

Re: random questions

I would like to add my two cents on the swiffer mop. I too like the fact

that

I can toss it out with the trash because I don't want a wet mop hanging

around either. I have found that I buy the swiffer wet mop pads and this

is what I

have been doing for a while. Let the pads " kinda " dry out; I know its

sounds

silly to buy them wet then let them dry but I make my own cleaning

solution and

put it into the pads. The wet pads are really a lot thicker than the

other

and hold the solution so you get a good wet surface. I found a

professional

Lysol cleaner at BJs and that's what I use. On the label it says that it

kills

Salmonella choleraesuis, Staphylococcus aureus, Pseudomanas aeruginosa,

Streptococcus pyogenes, Listeria monocytognes and E.coli. Also kills

virusus -

Rotavirus, Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV), Herpes Simples Type 1,

Herpes Simples

Type 2. Christian has allergies to dust mites so we don't have carpet

and I

can get the floors all done and let them dry while he is at school and

the

swiffer makes it much easier.

Tina Mom to Christian 11 yowcf

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BJ's is like a SAM's & Costco's . Many towns have them & they do carry

similar items. Best wishes

Love & hugs,

GrandmomBEV

Re: random questions

I would like to add my two cents on the swiffer mop. I too like the fact

that

I can toss it out with the trash because I don't want a wet mop hanging

around either. I have found that I buy the swiffer wet mop pads and this

is what I

have been doing for a while. Let the pads " kinda " dry out; I know its

sounds

silly to buy them wet then let them dry but I make my own cleaning

solution and

put it into the pads. The wet pads are really a lot thicker than the

other

and hold the solution so you get a good wet surface. I found a

professional

Lysol cleaner at BJs and that's what I use. On the label it says that it

kills

Salmonella choleraesuis, Staphylococcus aureus, Pseudomanas aeruginosa,

Streptococcus pyogenes, Listeria monocytognes and E.coli. Also kills

virusus -

Rotavirus, Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV), Herpes Simples Type 1,

Herpes Simples

Type 2. Christian has allergies to dust mites so we don't have carpet

and I

can get the floors all done and let them dry while he is at school and

the

swiffer makes it much easier.

Tina Mom to Christian 11 yowcf

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Costco or Sam's club should have it. BJ's is a wholesale club.

Re: random questions

I would like to add my two cents on the swiffer mop. I too like the fact

that

I can toss it out with the trash because I don't want a wet mop hanging

around either. I have found that I buy the swiffer wet mop pads and this

is what I

have been doing for a while. Let the pads " kinda " dry out; I know its

sounds

silly to buy them wet then let them dry but I make my own cleaning

solution and

put it into the pads. The wet pads are really a lot thicker than the

other

and hold the solution so you get a good wet surface. I found a

professional

Lysol cleaner at BJs and that's what I use. On the label it says that it

kills

Salmonella choleraesuis, Staphylococcus aureus, Pseudomanas aeruginosa,

Streptococcus pyogenes, Listeria monocytognes and E.coli. Also kills

virusus -

Rotavirus, Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV), Herpes Simples Type 1,

Herpes Simples

Type 2. Christian has allergies to dust mites so we don't have carpet

and I

can get the floors all done and let them dry while he is at school and

the

swiffer makes it much easier.

Tina Mom to Christian 11 yowcf

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