New to group/Goat whey question?

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I am single mom to 4 incredable kids! 16 has autism down

syndrome and microchephaly. He has been on the OLD version of the

autisdm diet for 4 years. I am eager to start this newer model of a

diet!

My other three wonders are Charissa 10 (repaired hair lip and cleft

palet), Chanysse 5 (achondroplasia,spina Bifida) and Jezeriah 10

months, (Down syndrome + digestive issues)all adopted! Three are

asian and our baby is Bulgarian. I never give my Asian kids milk

products. I would like to know if there is significant research to

know it is safe for Asian kids to drink goat milk/yoguart.

My youngest son gets fresh goat milk straight from our local farmer

that saved his life! He was allergic to everything especially store

bought formulas!! I have never given the goat milk to my other kids

as they are Asian.

I use goat whey in the goat milk and my baby son is 21 pounds as a

result! He is so very healthy now in every way!!! Can I add this

to liquids for my son with autism? He is having the runs right now

and I want to make sure he keeps his electrolytes. Goat whey has

the most amount of this stuff and so much more healthy ingredients

to keep you well!

Thanks and I am so HAPPY to have found this support!

Cheers!

Pamela

[Guest guest]

whey is difficult to to digest and would likely exacerbate the

diarrhea, an asian would be expected to have difficulty

the key concept of scd is undigested food being fed upon by a

fermenting gut flora releasing toxins

downs syndrome is difficult because of the way its nutrient

requirements outpace the ability of the digestive system to deliver

a bit of solar noon sun exposure may be helpful to augment pathways

with anti bacterial peptides

'skin vitamin d' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

there is a btvc legal/illegal foods list

http://tinyurl.com/kk9jl

and a list of revisions that i personally have found useful

http://tinyurl.com/pc7nu (can differ from btvc)

cannot say much to help your immediate problem i am afraid, hopefully

you will get a to the point reply

> I am single mom to 4 incredable kids! 16 has autism down

> syndrome and microchephaly. He has been on the OLD version of the

> autisdm diet for 4 years. I am eager to start this newer model of

a diet!

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[Guest guest]

Momfreespirit, I highly question your version of legal/illegal and

think you would be better to not advice someone new to be following

it.

Sandy M.

>

> > I am single mom to 4 incredable kids! 16 has autism

down

> > syndrome and microchephaly. He has been on the OLD version of

the

> > autisdm diet for 4 years. I am eager to start this newer model

of

> a diet!

> <<original post clipped for length by moderator>>

>

[Guest guest]

> Momfreespirit, I highly question your version of legal/illegal and

> think you would be better to not advice someone new to be following

> it.

> Sandy M.

>

>>

>>

>> there is a btvc legal/illegal foods list

>>

>> http://tinyurl.com/kk9jl

>>

>> and a list of revisions that i personally have found useful

>>

>>

>> http://tinyurl.com/pc7nu (can differ from btvc)

>>

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Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Pamela,

Nice to see another Canadian

> I never give my Asian kids milk

> products. I would like to know if there is significant research to

> know it is safe for Asian kids to drink goat milk/yoguart.

I don't know if there has been research to determine the safety for

those of asian descent eating/drinking dairy. You might want to try

using a search engine like " google " to see.

TMK, some of asian descent do have problems with dairy that is

usually associated with the lactose. If this is the case with your

children then the 24 hour goat yogurt may be fine for them because

almost all the lactose is converted to glucose and galactose by the

yogurt starter cultures. If you decide to try the yogurt start with

a tiny amount 1/8 - 1/4 tsp. The yogurt is extremely potent (high

numbers of good bacteria, enzymes etc.) and may cause die off which

you wouldn't want to confuse with not being able to tolerate the

yogurt.

> I use goat whey in the goat milk and my baby son is 21 pounds as a

> result! He is so very healthy now in every way!!! Can I add this

> to liquids for my son with autism?

If you are putting your son with Autism on the SCD then the answer

is no because whey is SCD illegal.

The intro diet is very good for those with diarrhea.

Please see

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro (dairy free)

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

(uses dairy)

There are some great tips for getting started on the diet

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#transition

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#menu

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#homemade

> He is having the runs right now

> and I want to make sure he keeps his electrolytes. Goat whey has

> the most amount of this stuff and so much more healthy ingredients

> to keep you well!

There is a homemade electrolyte mix recipe at

http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

Under the " Drinks " section

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

>

> Welcome to the group Pamela,

>

> Nice to see another Canadian

>

>

> > I never give my Asian kids milk

> > products. I would like to know if there is significant research to

> > know it is safe for Asian kids to drink goat milk/yoguart.

>

Is this relevant?

Prevalence. Lactase non-persistence occurs in an estimated 25% of the U.S.

population and

75% of adults worldwide (9,33,39). In general, the prevalence varies widely

among

different ethnic and racial population groups and is least common among persons

of

northern European descent (33,37,39). In the U.S., an estimated 90% of Asian

Americans,

75% of African Americans, 53% of Mexican Americans, and 15% of Caucasians are

lactose

maldigesters (33,37,40).

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila!

What part of Canada are you from?

What is your experience with this diet?

Cheers!

Pamela

>

> Welcome to the group Pamela,

>

> Nice to see another Canadian

>

>

> > I never give my Asian kids milk

> > products. I would like to know if there is significant research

to

> > know it is safe for Asian kids to drink goat milk/yoguart.

>

> I don't know if there has been research to determine the safety

for

> those of asian descent eating/drinking dairy. You might want to

try

> using a search engine like " google " to see.

> TMK, some of asian descent do have problems with dairy that is

> usually associated with the lactose. If this is the case with

your

> children then the 24 hour goat yogurt may be fine for them because

> almost all the lactose is converted to glucose and galactose by

the

> yogurt starter cultures. If you decide to try the yogurt start

with

> a tiny amount 1/8 - 1/4 tsp. The yogurt is extremely potent (high

> numbers of good bacteria, enzymes etc.) and may cause die off

which

> you wouldn't want to confuse with not being able to tolerate the

> yogurt.

>

> > I use goat whey in the goat milk and my baby son is 21 pounds as

a

> > result! He is so very healthy now in every way!!! Can I add

this

> > to liquids for my son with autism?

>

> If you are putting your son with Autism on the SCD then the answer

> is no because whey is SCD illegal.

>

> The intro diet is very good for those with diarrhea.

> Please see

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro (dairy free)

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> (uses dairy)

>

> There are some great tips for getting started on the diet

>

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#transition

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#menu

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#homemade

>

> > He is having the runs right now

> > and I want to make sure he keeps his electrolytes. Goat whey

has

> > the most amount of this stuff and so much more healthy

ingredients

> > to keep you well!

>

> There is a homemade electrolyte mix recipe at

> http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

> Under the " Drinks " section

>

> Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carol!

I guess the question is....WOULD yoguart be OK for my autistic son

despite being Asian. I was told by doctors that Asians have special

enzymes to digest soya because it has been a BIG part of their diet

for soooo long. I have tended to stay away from both milk products

and soya. In this diet it says eat goat yoguart specially made. I

can use goat milk from a local farmer. HOW to procede with this as

it will be a new food for him! What a bout allergic reactions?

Also when to start the yoguart. My son has been on the diet for 5

days thus far. He has gotten floractin (A form of Acidophilus) often

for years. The GFCF diet did make a major impact on changing his

autism but I am sure grains are a problem for digestion. His x-rays

revealed that his intestines are completely filled with poop! So I

know there ares till issues for digestion. He is quite constipated

over the past 2 months. Hoping to see a chang wih eliminating

grains!

Thanks for all the great info to help me on this journey!!!!

Pamela

>

> Is this relevant?

> Prevalence. Lactase non-persistence occurs in an estimated 25% of

the U.S. population and

> 75% of adults worldwide (9,33,39). In general, the prevalence

varies widely among

> different ethnic and racial population groups and is least common

among persons of

> northern European descent (33,37,39). In the U.S., an estimated

90% of Asian Americans,

> 75% of African Americans, 53% of Mexican Americans, and 15% of

Caucasians are lactose

> maldigesters (33,37,40).

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 6 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

> Thanks Sheila!

>

> What part of Canada are you from?

I am in Newfoundland.

> What is your experience with this diet?

Wow, my experience on the diet could be a book. It's all been good

though, tough at times, but good. I'd hate to think where I'd be

without the diet or...at least which body parts would be missing.

(Once in the ER, the doctor on call said that since I'd had

Ulcerative Colitis for so long it was pretty amazing that I still

had all my colon and I hadn't had any surgery.)

The majority of my (long) SCD story (not including the last

five " interesting " months) is at

http://pecanbread.com/SCD_Solutions.html

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and