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<< My guess is yeast overgrowth and now die-off >>

I think this is most likely. Yogurt is powerful stuff... and often triggers

die-off, following by further healing. Since you just started the yogurt again

this past week, I would be willing to bet this is what's going on. If so, it

should be temporary. If you've been eating cheese all along, I think it's highly

doubtful that either of you are reacting to the dairy itself.

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Hi Patti;

How long do you think yogurt die-off can last?

I started our family (dairy-free SCD) on goat yogurt (from my yogourmet) about 2

weeks ago.

My eldest daughter is reacting positively. Started low and slow with 1/8

tsp/day. My youngest daughter (2 yo) is still having the same symptoms as she

had prior to starting this diet 2 months ago. Runny poops, raging behaviours,

general hyperactivity and tantrums. There have been no infractions.

Is the diet not working for her or could it be attributed to the goat yogurt?

When can we look forward to the yogurt providing further healing?

Thanks,

Kim

2 months dairy-free SCD

3.5 yo ASD, raging 2 yo possibly NT

Re: question about yeast

<< My guess is yeast overgrowth and now die-off >>

I think this is most likely. Yogurt is powerful stuff... and often triggers

die-off, following by further healing. Since you just started the yogurt again

this past week, I would be willing to bet this is what's going on. If so, it

should be temporary. If you've been eating cheese all along, I think it's highly

doubtful that either of you are reacting to the dairy itself.

Patti

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Kim,

Tell me exactly what the 2-yr-old is eating... and how you're preparing it.

Die-off *can* last for weeks.... but if you're concerned that the yogurt is

causing an increase in negative behavior, you could pull it for a few days and

see if anything changes. Is she still getting only 1/8 tsp per day?

I agree it's really important to get the healing benefits of the yogurt.... so

I'd hate to see you stop using it, but you may just need to stop for a bit, then

restart again in a week.

First tell me about all the food, though.... EVERYthing. It seems odd that you

are still seeing runny poops. I am suspicious that there's something she's

eating that she's not ready for yet.... even if it's legal.

Patti

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Hi Patti;

How long do you think yogurt die-off can last?

I started our family (dairy-free SCD) on goat yogurt (from my yogourmet) about

2 weeks ago.

My eldest daughter is reacting positively. Started low and slow with 1/8

tsp/day. My youngest daughter (2 yo) is still having the same symptoms as she

had prior to starting this diet 2 months ago. Runny poops, raging behaviours,

general hyperactivity and tantrums. There have been no infractions.

Is the diet not working for her or could it be attributed to the goat yogurt?

When can we look forward to the yogurt providing further healing?

Thanks,

Kim

2 months dairy-free SCD

3.5 yo ASD, raging 2 yo possibly NT

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Dear Kim,

I know this much: a few weeks is not enough time to see the benefits

of SCD. The gut is hard to heal. It takes time, but it is worth it.

An absolutely wonderful talk on SCD can be found at the DAN! Webcast

videos for Washington DC. The speaker is Judy Gorman. You can find

it here: http://www.danwebcast.com/ You have to register and they

send you a numeric code so that you can watch the videos. Don't

worry, they don't send you spam if you register. Don't miss this

one! : D

>

> Hi Patti;

>

> How long do you think yogurt die-off can last?

>

> I started our family (dairy-free SCD) on goat yogurt (from my

yogourmet) about 2 weeks ago.

>

> My eldest daughter is reacting positively. Started low and slow

with 1/8 tsp/day. My youngest daughter (2 yo) is still having the

same symptoms as she had prior to starting this diet 2 months ago.

Runny poops, raging behaviours, general hyperactivity and tantrums.

There have been no infractions.

>

> Is the diet not working for her or could it be attributed to the

goat yogurt? When can we look forward to the yogurt providing

further healing?

>

> Thanks,

> Kim

> 2 months dairy-free SCD

> 3.5 yo ASD, raging 2 yo possibly NT

> Re: question about yeast

>

>

> << My guess is yeast overgrowth and now die-off >>

>

> I think this is most likely. Yogurt is powerful stuff... and

often triggers die-off, following by further healing. Since you just

started the yogurt again this past week, I would be willing to bet

this is what's going on. If so, it should be temporary. If you've

been eating cheese all along, I think it's highly doubtful that

either of you are reacting to the dairy itself.

>

> Patti

>

>

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Thanks Kathy.

Yes I heard Judy speak about SCD and how it helped her non-responder son at one

of the DAN! conferences. It was inspiring. I will check out the link - a

refresher would probably be a boost right now.

Kim

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Hi Kathy,

> My daughter and I have been sstrictly SCD for almost 9 months.

Due to

> problems not worth going into here, we were not able to have the

yogurt

> for two months. About three weeks ago, I started having joint

pain.

> Both of us have had a coated tongue.

I had knee pain and a coated tongue as some of my yeast symtoms

(also some fatigue, skin rashes etc.)

> Last week we started the yogurt again, and have had it since.

Today,

> we are both achy, irritable and feel generally crappy.

How much yogurt did you restart with? Di you gradually increase it

again?

My guess is

> yeast overgrowth and now die-off but both of us are questioning

whether

> we have some other food allergy that has gone unaddressed. Her

DAN

> ordered another food allergy test, so that may shed some light on

her

> situation. For me though, I'm in the dark.

> We've eaten good cheese all along, so we both are wondering if we

> should do the CF version of SCD.

> What's your oppion/experience?

If you have been okay with cheese before and with the yogurt are

having symptoms I'd think you are experiencing lots of die off from

the yeast. If you cut back on the yogurt a bit that may reduce the

die off so you don't feel as bad.

>I began having a weird rash about

> three days ago, after an outing with my granddaughter

I had rashes with yeast and had more temporaily with yeast die off.

Sheila, SCD 5.5 yrs, 22 yrs UC

mom of Em and Dan

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Hi Patti -

Thanks for the reply... Did you want me to contact you off list for details of

my youngest daughter's diet?

Kim

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Hi Patti;

How long do you think yogurt die-off can last?

I started our family (dairy-free SCD) on goat yogurt (from my yogourmet) about

2 weeks ago.

My eldest daughter is reacting positively. Started low and slow with 1/8

tsp/day. My youngest daughter (2 yo) is still having the same symptoms as she

had prior to starting this diet 2 months ago. Runny poops, raging behaviours,

general hyperactivity and tantrums. There have been no infractions.

Is the diet not working for her or could it be attributed to the goat yogurt?

When can we look forward to the yogurt providing further healing?

Thanks,

Kim

2 months dairy-free SCD

3.5 yo ASD, raging 2 yo possibly NT

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Kim, I'd rather you post through the list, so that some of the other veterans

can look it over, too. They may see something that I've missed. Patti

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Kim,

Tell me exactly what the 2-yr-old is eating... and how you're preparing it.

Die-off *can* last for weeks.... but if you're concerned that the yogurt is

causing an increase in negative behavior, you could pull it for a few days and

see if anything changes. Is she still getting only 1/8 tsp per day?

I agree it's really important to get the healing benefits of the yogurt....

so I'd hate to see you stop using it, but you may just need to stop for a bit,

then restart again in a week.

First tell me about all the food, though.... EVERYthing. It seems odd that

you are still seeing runny poops. I am suspicious that there's something she's

eating that she's not ready for yet.... even if it's legal.

Patti

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My youngest daughter (2 yo) is still having the same symptoms as she had

prior to starting this diet 2 months ago. Runny poops, raging behaviours,

general hyperactivity and tantrums. There have been no infractions.

Is the diet not working for her or could it be attributed to the goat

yogurt? When can we look forward to the yogurt providing further healing?

Thanks,

Kim

2 months dairy-free SCD

3.5 yo ASD, raging 2 yo possibly NT

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