Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Leah, I don't know that you'd need to go clear back to intro for one teddy graham. Don't you just wish some sort of warning alarm would go off when your child got near the stray illegals?? Grrrr! Just get back on board 100%. If you are cooking the green beans well, they should be okay.... but is he chewing them well? If not, you might actually have to puree them and mix them into meatloaf or chicken pancakes or something. Need to make them easy to digest so they don't end up feeding the bad bugs. Patti, mom to Katera infraction picked up a teddy graham from the psychologist office floor and ate it yesterday. Today he has red bumps all around his anus (sorry to be gross) and has pooped 3 times (each progressively more mushy.) Could he have this much of a reaction to one teddy graham? We also just introduced organic regular cut green beans yesterday. Might that be hard to digest? Should we do the intro again for a day to clean out the system or just back up to pre-green beans? Thanks for your help and guidance in these trying first weeks. Leah - whole family SCD 10 days - 3 1/2 ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 > Kai got a cheese quesadilla (corn tortilla) at school today (BIG eye > roll). I noticed something was wrong right away because his eye > contact was > gone and he was very agitated. Then his teacher broke the news. > > I know this happens a lot and it is what it is and we have to move on > BUT.. > Is there anything we can do or should do from here on out? > > I am thinking I should go back to intro for a few days but I am > wondering if > I should stop the goat yogurt? Would it be ok to just go back to stage > one > foods? Or do you think the intro is important. How long will we see the > effects? It was just a few bites but I doubt that makes a difference. > It is > beyond frustrating! But I am trying to let it go and focus on here on > out. Kelli, Keep going unless you see a big continuing change. You can always start over later and may not need to. Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Thanks for the help Carol ) I really hope that the infraction doesn't take too much of a toll. ) KELLI Kai 3 3/4 (ASD) & Tatum 2 (NT) SCD since 5/05 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of Carol Frilegh Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:08 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: INFRACTION > Kai got a cheese quesadilla (corn tortilla) at school today (BIG eye > roll). I noticed something was wrong right away because his eye > contact was > gone and he was very agitated. Then his teacher broke the news. > > I know this happens a lot and it is what it is and we have to move on > BUT.. > Is there anything we can do or should do from here on out? > > I am thinking I should go back to intro for a few days but I am > wondering if > I should stop the goat yogurt? Would it be ok to just go back to stage > one > foods? Or do you think the intro is important. How long will we see the > effects? It was just a few bites but I doubt that makes a difference. > It is > beyond frustrating! But I am trying to let it go and focus on here on > out. Kelli, Keep going unless you see a big continuing change. You can always start over later and may not need to. Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 > I know this happens a lot and it is what it is and we have to move on BUT.. > Is there anything we can do or should do from here on out? > > That stinks, I know. Actually, this issue (possible infraction at school) was one of the things that prompted us looking into enzymes in the first place. Glenn had a nightmare rxn to filching some kid's faux orange cheese pb cracker. Skin blistering diarrhea and he was throwing himself into walls for hours. Def not his norm. I will say that we had been GFCFSFCFYF, Feingold, organic etc for 9mo prior to this. (just some back hx - not everybody wants to/can use enz right off). We OBVIOUSLY discourage infractions, and the school takes it seriuosly, but we have found with enz given at meals, it covers him as far as behaviral rxns go if he is in contact w/ something offending (food, skin cream, etc). School is instructed to give three AFP Peptizydes (the protease we use) if there has been an infraction. There have been two in the last 18mo; on a contact and one an ingestion - NO behavioral rxn at all, and only very mild diarrhea. Can't remember if you do enz or not, but perhaps worth a look? For " insurance " if nothing else? -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hi, Kelli, Epsom salt baths and activated charcoal can help greatly when the infractions occur. Good luck! I hope it doesn't hit him too hard. SCD 2 years Mom to Dakota (8--NF, CDD, Seizures) and (6--happy and healthy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thanks! We already use enzymes but have to put them in his drink because they won't administer them at school (need a doctor's note which we can't provide for this sort of thing). Of course we can't be sure he drinks it at the right times. So far he is a bit more combative and repetitive but it is not too extreme. ) KELLI _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of chrsdonohue Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:31 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: INFRACTION > I know this happens a lot and it is what it is and we have to move on BUT.. > Is there anything we can do or should do from here on out? > > That stinks, I know. Actually, this issue (possible infraction at school) was one of the things that prompted us looking into enzymes in the first place. Glenn had a nightmare rxn to filching some kid's faux orange cheese pb cracker. Skin blistering diarrhea and he was throwing himself into walls for hours. Def not his norm. I will say that we had been GFCFSFCFYF, Feingold, organic etc for 9mo prior to this. (just some back hx - not everybody wants to/can use enz right off). We OBVIOUSLY discourage infractions, and the school takes it seriuosly, but we have found with enz given at meals, it covers him as far as behaviral rxns go if he is in contact w/ something offending (food, skin cream, etc). School is instructed to give three AFP Peptizydes (the protease we use) if there has been an infraction. There have been two in the last 18mo; on a contact and one an ingestion - NO behavioral rxn at all, and only very mild diarrhea. Can't remember if you do enz or not, but perhaps worth a look? For " insurance " if nothing else? -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 This morning has been bad but we can only move forward right! Thanks ! ) KELLI Kai 3 3/4 (ASD) & Tatum 2 (NT) SCD since 5/05 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of and C. TwoBears Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:47 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: INFRACTION Hi, Kelli, Epsom salt baths and activated charcoal can help greatly when the infractions occur. Good luck! I hope it doesn't hit him too hard. SCD 2 years Mom to Dakota (8--NF, CDD, Seizures) and (6--happy and healthy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Kelli, I had a similar problem, as the enzymes don't last very long in liquid and my son did not always drink his beverages at the right time (he takes food for both lunch and afternoon snack) or at all. My son's school wouldn't administer enzymes at first without a doctor's note either, but when his behavioral issues at school didn't resolve and they were feeling more desperate for a solution, they agreed that a nurse's medication form filled out by me the parent would be sufficient, as it was an over-the-counter (nonprescription) item. So now he stops at the nurse's office on the way to lunch and she puts fresh enzyme in his drink or water which he drinks under her supervision before lunch. Also, if your child's school won't budge on the doctor's note and your doctor won't " prescribe " them, perhaps you could get your doctor to write a " this will do no harm " letter and then also write your own note? mother of Adam At 10:06 AM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >Thanks! We already use enzymes but have to put them in his drink because >they won't administer them at school (need a doctor's note which we can't >provide for this sort of thing). Of course we can't be sure he drinks it at >the right times. So far he is a bit more combative and repetitive but it is >not too extreme. > >) KELLI > >_____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thanks , I think I will look into it further when he starts school this fall. He is in a summer program now that is more like summer camp.he only gets " snack " . I will probably continue to put an enzyme in his drink and try to make it special in some way so he wants to drink out of it. I think that I will put some AFP though to counteract any possible gluten or casein..I was only using Zyme Prime previously. ) KELLI _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of M. Kalb Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:00 AM To: pecanbread Subject: RE: Re: INFRACTION Kelli, I had a similar problem, as the enzymes don't last very long in liquid and my son did not always drink his beverages at the right time (he takes food for both lunch and afternoon snack) or at all. My son's school wouldn't administer enzymes at first without a doctor's note either, but when his behavioral issues at school didn't resolve and they were feeling more desperate for a solution, they agreed that a nurse's medication form filled out by me the parent would be sufficient, as it was an over-the-counter (nonprescription) item. So now he stops at the nurse's office on the way to lunch and she puts fresh enzyme in his drink or water which he drinks under her supervision before lunch. Also, if your child's school won't budge on the doctor's note and your doctor won't " prescribe " them, perhaps you could get your doctor to write a " this will do no harm " letter and then also write your own note? mother of Adam At 10:06 AM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >Thanks! We already use enzymes but have to put them in his drink because >they won't administer them at school (need a doctor's note which we can't >provide for this sort of thing). Of course we can't be sure he drinks it at >the right times. So far he is a bit more combative and repetitive but it is >not too extreme. > >) KELLI > >_____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 > > Thanks! We already use enzymes but have to put them in his drink because > they won't administer them at school (need a doctor's note which we can't > provide for this sort of thing). ??? Did you mean to type " ...which s/he (the doctor) can't provide for this sort of thing " ? Is there a reason your doc won't give a note? Man, that is the FIRST thing I handed them after the school registration form, lol. There is a chewable version of Pep from Houston's (dunno about it on a scd-legality note, tho). May work in an 'emergency'...balance a mouthful of illegal vs the small amount in an enz.... A GFCF friend sends her HF son to school with those jic. -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Our doctor won't sign a form is basically what I am saying and there isn't a nurses office. He is 3 and doesn't swallow pills. The chewable aren't legal. But, I have considered making candies (peanut butter and honey) and freezing them with enzymes in them but he doesn't tolerate nuts very well right now and I don't want to give him something that he doesn't tolerate every day in order to compensate for an " oops " or emergency. You know what I mean? I feel like my best bet is the water and to do the best I can to get the teachers in the loop. ) KELLI Kai 3 3/4 (ASD) & Tatum 2 (NT) SCD since 5/05 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of chrsdonohue Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:58 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: INFRACTION > > Thanks! We already use enzymes but have to put them in his drink because > they won't administer them at school (need a doctor's note which we can't > provide for this sort of thing). ??? Did you mean to type " ...which s/he (the doctor) can't provide for this sort of thing " ? Is there a reason your doc won't give a note? Man, that is the FIRST thing I handed them after the school registration form, lol. There is a chewable version of Pep from Houston's (dunno about it on a scd-legality note, tho). May work in an 'emergency'...balance a mouthful of illegal vs the small amount in an enz.... A GFCF friend sends her HF son to school with those jic. -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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