Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I also believe that in the perfect world we would use only organic BUT in the world that I live many foods are not available in organic and many more are VERY expensive in organic. I buy organic when ever I can find and when every it is possible financially. I also feel that it is important to not put " you must do organic to really succeed " on families that are already streched to the max. If you can do this without a problem you are truly blessed. If it is the choice of giving your family a balanced diet and not doing EVERYTHING organic I choose the balanced diet. Just my opinion. Sandy M. Whole family SCD 6 months in support of 5 yr old who raged. > > I have a strong belief that if diets are to work one really needs to > use only organic foods! The amounts of pestisides is terrible in most > foods! I believe doing this for 4 years now and the GFCf has greatly > helped my son. Now I will go further with the scd diet. Are the > results better and faster if one is using only organic foods? > > Thanks Pamela > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 > I also believe that in the perfect world we would use only organic BUT > in the world that I live many foods are not available in organic and > many more are VERY expensive in organic. I buy organic when ever I > can find and when every it is possible financially. > I also feel that it is important to not put " you must do organic to > really succeed " on families that are already streched to the max. > If you can do this without a problem you are truly blessed. If it is > the choice of giving your family a balanced diet and not doing > EVERYTHING organic I choose the balanced diet. > Just my opinion. > Sandy M. Elaine has said organic is not required for SCD but is a nice option for those who wish to use it. > > > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Thanks Sandy! Don't want to burdon anyone but here in our area (tians) Quebec area apples, pinapples, bananas are the same price as organic. I live near 2 organic farmers too They have been so kind to help out our family as well! Suprizing how much others want to help children stay well. I get food delivered to the door now and it is so good to have this support with 3 special needs kids to cook for! A true miracle for us! Good to know others thoughts on organic! Thanks so much! I will keep this up then. Cheers! Pamela > > > > I have a strong belief that if diets are to work one really needs to > > use only organic foods! The amounts of pestisides is terrible in > most > > foods! I believe doing this for 4 years now and the GFCf has > greatly > > helped my son. Now I will go further with the scd diet. Are the > > results better and faster if one is using only organic foods? > > > > Thanks Pamela > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi Pamela, > I have a strong belief that if diets are to work one really needs to > use only organic foods! The amounts of pestisides is terrible in most > foods! I believe doing this for 4 years now and the GFCf has greatly > helped my son. Now I will go further with the scd diet. Are the > results better and faster if one is using only organic foods? > > Thanks Pamela From an SCD standpoint foods do not have to be organic. If you are able to financially, geographically and mentally (for some it takes a lot of arranging to get all organic) it is fantatsic. But again it is not a " requirement " for SCD. We will encourage all those who want to use organic foods to do so, but at the same time this list remains open to those who are unable or choose not to use organic foods - it is not a SCD requirement. Depending on the particular issues that people on the list are addressing some have found that using organic foods have helped them make breakthroughs on the diet. There are some tips for finding good affordable organic foods at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/46459 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/41671 Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs mom of and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 > > Thanks Sandy! Don't want to burdon anyone but here in our area > (tians) Quebec area apples, pinapples, bananas are the same > price as organic. I live near 2 organic farmers too They have been > so kind to help out our family as well! > > I also believe that in the perfect world we would use only organic Pamela, If you can get Mehadrin Dry Curd Cottage Cheese which is from Montreal, you will be very pleaesd. It is an excellent quality and greatr for cheesecake and lasagna. CarolF. Toronto, celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Ok thanks so very much Carol! I will go ahunting for this! I do hope it is here in the tians! Thanks again! Cheers! Pamela > > > > Thanks Sandy! Don't want to burdon anyone but here in our area > > (tians) Quebec area apples, pinapples, bananas are the same > > price as organic. I live near 2 organic farmers too They have been > > so kind to help out our family as well! > > I also believe that in the perfect world we > would use only organic > > Pamela, > If you can get Mehadrin Dry Curd Cottage Cheese which is from Montreal, you will be very > pleaesd. It is an excellent quality and greatr for cheesecake and lasagna. > > CarolF. > Toronto, celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, SCD 6 years > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 My thoughts on organic: If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic dollars where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, pesticides etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also avoiding more harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that hormones and pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group if you can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat and focus your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, cheese, butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best organic, get grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient content than grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling it and therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of foods to buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all fruit, don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves homemade strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high-pesticide crop, whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to get organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I couldn't get all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic strawberries, but I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought at Trader Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what you can. mother of Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Where is the best place to BUY organic stuff, especially meats? Randy > > My thoughts on organic: > > If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic dollars > where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. > > 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, pesticides > etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more > pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also avoiding more > harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that hormones and > pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group if you > can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat and focus > your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, cheese, > butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best organic, get > grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient content than > grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " > > 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling it and > therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of foods to > buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all fruit, > don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves homemade > strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and > bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high-pesticide crop, > whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to get > organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I couldn't get > all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic strawberries, but > I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought at Trader > Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what you can. > > > mother of Adam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 > Where is the best place to BUY organic stuff, especially meats? > > Randy > Randy Whole Foods is great but expensive. Check your yellow pages for an organic butcher and organic markets. > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 > > > > My thoughts on organic: > > > > If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic > dollars > > where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. > > > > 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, > pesticides > > etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more > > pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also > avoiding more > > harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that > hormones and > > pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group > if you > > can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat > and focus > > your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, > cheese, > > butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best > organic, get > > grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient > content than > > grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " > > > > 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling > it and > > therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of > foods to > > buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all > fruit, > > don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves > homemade > > strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and > > bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high-pesticide > crop, > > whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to > get > > organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I > couldn't get > > all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic > strawberries, but > > I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought > at Trader > > Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what > you can. > > > > > > mother of Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 At 06:18 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote: > > > > > > > My thoughts on organic: > > > > > > If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic > > dollars > > > where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. > > > > > > 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, > > pesticides > > > etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more > > > pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also > > avoiding more > > > harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that > > hormones and > > > pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group > > if you > > > can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat > > and focus > > > your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, > > cheese, > > > butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best > > organic, get > > > grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient > > content than > > > grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " > > > > > > 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling > > it and > > > therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of > > foods to > > > buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all > > fruit, > > > don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves > > homemade > > > strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and > > > bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high-pesticide > > crop, > > > whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to > > get > > > organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I > > couldn't get > > > all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic > > strawberries, but > > > I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought > > at Trader > > > Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what > > you can. > > > > > > > > > mother of Adam > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Hi , > For meat go to eatwild.org and look up farms and ranches in your I couldn't get eatwild.org to work but eatwild.com did. I loved all your great tips Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thanks everyone... Loved the eatwild.com site!!! None of the specialty grocers (Trader Joes, Wegmans, etc) exist in Dallas Texas... Whole Foods DOES exist here but they are so expensive for veggies and fruit... Randy > > > > > > > > My thoughts on organic: > > > > > > > > If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic > > > dollars > > > > where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. > > > > > > > > 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, > > > pesticides > > > > etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more > > > > pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also > > > avoiding more > > > > harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that > > > hormones and > > > > pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group > > > if you > > > > can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat > > > and focus > > > > your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, > > > cheese, > > > > butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best > > > organic, get > > > > grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient > > > content than > > > > grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " > > > > > > > > 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling > > > it and > > > > therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of > > > foods to > > > > buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all > > > fruit, > > > > don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves > > > homemade > > > > strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and > > > > bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high- pesticide > > > crop, > > > > whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to > > > get > > > > organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I > > > couldn't get > > > > all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic > > > strawberries, but > > > > I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought > > > at Trader > > > > Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what > > > you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > mother of Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I hear you! If I shopped in the stores for organic, I would not be able to afford it. I find shopping out of the stores not only cheaper, but the food is fresher. It's already mid season for fruits and veggies...I would recommend you get out to farmers markets, search your area for small farmers and start talking to them. Many farmers will work with you, its best to make plans for the next farming season. Tell them what you want and what you can afford, with small farmers, I have had a hard time finding someone who won't work with me on any level. It takes some time to scout about, many small farmers (if you have agriculture in your area) don't even hang signs, they have such a small customer base. Not all organic food is the same. When someone absolutely cannot find affordable organic in their area, you might sit down and decide the most important foods to incorporate to be organic. For instance, avocados do not absorb nearly the amount of pesticide/insecticide as compared to a tomato. I would start organic eggs, number one thing. It takes awhile to get to know your community on the local food level, but once you do, it is easier to figure out how to make things work. For meats, look for 100% pastured on rotational pasture. Talk to people in your town, see who wants to go in with you on an animal, have to plan generally 6 months to a year in advance. Many small ranchers will raise an animal to your specifications even if they raise other animals on feed. I have a quarter ranged cow coming soon, and all cuts of meat are $2 a pound. But it does take a bit of ground work and planning, well worth it though. With autism spectrum, livers are generally overburdened, there are often additional aspects like heavy metal toxicity. It's hard for the liver to regenerate and work on the toxicity in the body when it is bombarded everyday, and uses the little capacity it has to work to work through the daily incoming toxicity, magnified by the leaky gut situation, of course. If possible, look at home gardening next year or a community plot. Farming is great fun and therapy for families. Summer the_rainman06 wrote: Thanks everyone... Loved the eatwild.com site!!! None of the specialty grocers (Trader Joes, Wegmans, etc) exist in Dallas Texas... Whole Foods DOES exist here but they are so expensive for veggies and fruit... Randy > > > > > > > > My thoughts on organic: > > > > > > > > If you can afford some organic but not all, focus your organic > > > dollars > > > > where it will make the most difference, have the most impact. > > > > > > > > 1. Meat and dairy. Animal products concentrate the hormones, > > > pesticides > > > > etc. in everything they eat into their bodies. You get more more > > > > pesticides for your buck in animal products, so you are also > > > avoiding more > > > > harm by buying organic in this category. Also I've heard that > > > hormones and > > > > pesticides get mostly concentrated in the fat, so among this group > > > if you > > > > can't buy all organic animal products, trim the fat off the meat > > > and focus > > > > your organic dollars into the fat-containing items like milk, > > > cheese, > > > > butter, and ghee. When you have the luxury to go for the best > > > organic, get > > > > grass-fed and free-range as it has higher vitamin and nutrient > > > content than > > > > grain-fed, even if the grain is " organic. " > > > > > > > > 2. Fruits and vegetable that you do NOT peel. If you are peeling > > > it and > > > > therefore peeling off the pesticides, put it low on your list of > > > foods to > > > > buy organic. At the beginning of the diet when you are peeling all > > > fruit, > > > > don't worry too much. A real-life example for me is, my son loves > > > homemade > > > > strawberry bananas smoothies, for which I buy both strawberries and > > > > bananas. Strawberries you do not peel and are a very high- pesticide > > > crop, > > > > whereas bananas you peel anyway, so it is more important for me to > > > get > > > > organic strawberries than organic bananas. When I was sick I > > > couldn't get > > > > all the way to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods to get organic > > > strawberries, but > > > > I washed conventional ones with a fruit & vegetable wash I bought > > > at Trader > > > > Joe's that is supposed to wash off the pesticides. You do what > > > you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > mother of Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > Summer's Family, SCD 08/04 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/openblooms/ --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 > > Thanks everyone... > > Loved the eatwild.com site!!! > > None of the specialty grocers (Trader Joes, Wegmans, etc) exist in > Dallas Texas... > > Whole Foods DOES exist here but they are so expensive for veggies and > fruit... > > Randy > > One of the places I'll order meat from is Slanker's. They are a grrassfed, etc place. Right in TX! Nice guys too. Hit google for slankers - since you are so close the prices may be doable.. -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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