Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 I guess I can count myself as one of the lucky ones--Mark has been right there with me the whole time. He's not as active in doing his meds and treatments as I am, but that is because he often works on the road. But, when he's home, he is usually the one to do it, and I get a much-needed break. He is wonderful, and takes him to his CF appointments a lot, too. What a prince I have! :-) S., mom to Cody (7, pwcf, nissen for severe reflux, malnutrition, ADHD), DJ (9, nocf, asthma, ADD), and a (14, nocf, ADHD) Men in denial > I'm sitting here pondering the idea of why men seem to go into more denial > than women when it comes to their child and it being dx'd with CF. I've noticed > a lot of people saying things like....my husband does not take any role in > treatments....he ignores the fact that our child has CF.....or my ex does not > think our child needs the meds....Why is this? > > Women admit they are in denial and they ask for help in how to cope with the > diagnoses, but it's rare to see a man do this. Is it because of pride? > > Please don't flame me, I'm not speaking against any of the men on the > list....you guys are the greatest, and contribute greatly to the list. Hopefully you > GUYS can answer (or at least give me some insight) as to WHY? > > Dawn > mom to Tyler 5.5 w CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 , You are soooo lucky to have hubby involved with his kids treatments. The guys who aren't miss out on so much! But, if you really think about it, a lot of Dad's aren't involved in their kids lives even if they are not sick! You should tell him Happy Australian Father's Day tomorrow!!! Love, Aunt B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 HI Dawn, I suppose I a very lucky because my husband is very aware 's CF. He does her evening treatment and gives her enzymes and whatnot. Now, he is not as up on all the things that she takes. For example: He knows that she is on Reglan and zantac but he might not remember exactly how much she takes or when. But he always asks if she is supposed to get anything else...... I have really made it my business to be in charge of 's meds though so if he had to do it I think that he would be able to handle it all with no problem. I honestly feel for all the people who's partners don't share in the care for their child with CF because it is very hard to do it with a partner's assistance. I can't imagine what it must be like to do it on your own all the time. I wonder if those men who go into denial about CF are really just trying to protect themselves from the worry CF can cause? or maybe from the pain of confronting the fact that we, as parents, passed this " bad " gene on as well as the good ones that we give? Just my guess. Men in denial I'm sitting here pondering the idea of why men seem to go into more denial than women when it comes to their child and it being dx'd with CF. I've noticed a lot of people saying things like....my husband does not take any role in treatments....he ignores the fact that our child has CF.....or my ex does not think our child needs the meds....Why is this? Women admit they are in denial and they ask for help in how to cope with the diagnoses, but it's rare to see a man do this. Is it because of pride? Please don't flame me, I'm not speaking against any of the men on the list....you guys are the greatest, and contribute greatly to the list. Hopefully you GUYS can answer (or at least give me some insight) as to WHY? Dawn mom to Tyler 5.5 w CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I DO THINK YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. SOOOOOO, MAYBE THEY ACTUALLY SHOULD GO TO CLINIC FOR COUNSELING /HELP IN UNDERSTANDING MORE. even TO THE EDDAYS. THEY HELP WITHOUT PINNING them DOWN oops, sorry about caps. I don't have time to redo . :) LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV Re: Men in denial HI Dawn, I suppose I a very lucky because my husband is very aware 's CF. He does her evening treatment and gives her enzymes and whatnot. Now, he is not as up on all the things that she takes. For example: He knows that she is on Reglan and zantac but he might not remember exactly how much she takes or when. But he always asks if she is supposed to get anything else...... I have really made it my business to be in charge of 's meds though so if he had to do it I think that he would be able to handle it all with no problem. I honestly feel for all the people who's partners don't share in the care for their child with CF because it is very hard to do it with a partner's assistance. I can't imagine what it must be like to do it on your own all the time. I wonder if those men who go into denial about CF are really just trying to protect themselves from the worry CF can cause? or maybe from the pain of confronting the fact that we, as parents, passed this " bad " gene on as well as the good ones that we give? Just my guess. Men in denial I'm sitting here pondering the idea of why men seem to go into more denial than women when it comes to their child and it being dx'd with CF. I've noticed a lot of people saying things like....my husband does not take any role in treatments....he ignores the fact that our child has CF.....or my ex does not think our child needs the meds....Why is this? Women admit they are in denial and they ask for help in how to cope with the diagnoses, but it's rare to see a man do this. Is it because of pride? Please don't flame me, I'm not speaking against any of the men on the list....you guys are the greatest, and contribute greatly to the list. Hopefully you GUYS can answer (or at least give me some insight) as to WHY? Dawn mom to Tyler 5.5 w CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 You Go Guy! To put it in girlie terms: You've Come A Long Way, Baby! Loved your post! It is nice to hear the guys point of view. I know your wife and kids think you are the greatest! Aunt B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Your husband sounds exactly like Mark, ! He also does treatment, enzymes, etc., when he is home, and he also gets his evening meds ready for him, but never fail he always has to ask what to give him, or else he will go through what he has there, and I have to verify it. I have a chart hanging up inside the cupboard with the amounts and the schedule, but he still needs to ask me. Sometimes it drives me nuts, cuz I can't understand why he can't remember after all this time, but then I have to stop and realize that the reason is probably because he feels secure that I will remember and handle it, so he lets his mind focus on other things. He can't, how do they say it, " multitask " , very well. He always has so many things going, and I guess he feels confident that Cody's stuff is being handled by me so he focuses on other things. He also is willing to talk about it to anyone who wants to know--now, he doesn't volunteer any more information than he is specifically asked, but he's that way about EVERYTHING!! LOL Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get him to tell me about a doctor appointment, etc., that he went to. When you ask " What did the doctor say? " , he'll say, " Oh, he says it's no big deal " , and thinks he should leave it at that. I have to start asking him pointed questions to get any answers! LOL THEN, a few days later, he'll out of the blue say, " Oh, yeah...the doctor said......... " , and it will be something important!! Sigh.... Love to all, S., mom to Cody (7, pwcf, nissen for severe reflux, malnutrition, ADHD), DJ (9, nocf, asthma, ADD), and a (14, nocf, ADHD) Re: Men in denial > HI Dawn, > I suppose I a very lucky because my husband is very aware 's CF. He does her evening treatment and gives her enzymes and whatnot. Now, he is not as up on all the things that she takes. For example: He knows that she is on Reglan and zantac but he might not remember exactly how much she takes or when. But he always asks if she is supposed to get anything else...... I have really made it my business to be in charge of 's meds though so if he had to do it I think that he would be able to handle it all with no problem. I honestly feel for all the people who's partners don't share in the care for their child with CF because it is very hard to do it with a partner's assistance. I can't imagine what it must be like to do it on your own all the time. > > I wonder if those men who go into denial about CF are really just trying to protect themselves from the worry CF can cause? or maybe from the pain of confronting the fact that we, as parents, passed this " bad " gene on as well as the good ones that we give? > Just my guess. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I took Abby's diagnosis very hard - maybe harder than Kathy did. We express things differently so I guess it's not right to say that but I grieved about it for several days. We had to wait 4 days before we had our other 2 girls tested (6 and 2) and that was hard. My Dad is one of the guys that does the denial thing and it makes me mad at him. He didn't call the entire 3 weeks we were in the hospital with Abby when she was diagnosed and very sick. When I talk about Abby's CF to him I can tell he is just forcing himself to appear interested and is quick to change the subject. I've watched him act like that my whole life and I guess I am very involved in all my children's lives to this extent partly because I don't want to be like him. I don't really know what the reason is for this kind of behavior except for the fact that men have been taught it by society. I may get killed for saying this but I think the feminist movement, while helping in some aspects, also had some drawbacks. For example: " A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. " This line of thinking allowed men to feel perfectly at ease only having to take care of himself. While at one time men felt responsible for the welfare of their families, now they have society telling them they aren't needed - that the woman can handle it. By the same token a lot of guys are just selfish slackers. But I do think that women have much more innate ability to nurture the children than does the man. I have less patience and am far less productive around the house than is Kathy. Somehow she can get it all done while I struggle just keeping the kids from serious injury. I'm really not using that as an excuse. It's just a fact. I think men have the desire to get out and kill something, find something, fix something or solve a physical problem. I use that in me to do Abby's CPT. I see it as a challenge and it's plenty physical. Make sure your husband understands the importance of good CPT and the fact that he may be stronger and more capable of doing a thorough job at it. He needs to understand that he could directly impact your child's health. I really hope nobody was offended by anything I said. I admit being a pig at heart. It's against the grain for many of us guys to be sensitive but if we aren't learning it or at least trying we ultimately lose. I believe a man can't really have peace or joy if he fails in the home. > I'm sitting here pondering the idea of why men seem to go into more denial > than women when it comes to their child and it being dx'd with CF. I've noticed > a lot of people saying things like....my husband does not take any role in > treatments....he ignores the fact that our child has CF.....or my ex does not > think our child needs the meds....Why is this? > > Women admit they are in denial and they ask for help in how to cope with the > diagnoses, but it's rare to see a man do this. Is it because of pride? > > Please don't flame me, I'm not speaking against any of the men on the > list....you guys are the greatest, and contribute greatly to the list. Hopefully you > GUYS can answer (or at least give me some insight) as to WHY? > > Dawn > mom to Tyler 5.5 w CF > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I liked and enjoyed your post Joe. Dawn mom of 4, 7 and under, the youngest wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 It's like pulling teeth to get my husband to tell the DOCTOR anything! Re: Men in denial > HI Dawn, > I suppose I a very lucky because my husband is very aware 's CF. He does her evening treatment and gives her enzymes and whatnot. Now, he is not as up on all the things that she takes. For example: He knows that she is on Reglan and zantac but he might not remember exactly how much she takes or when. But he always asks if she is supposed to get anything else...... I have really made it my business to be in charge of 's meds though so if he had to do it I think that he would be able to handle it all with no problem. I honestly feel for all the people who's partners don't share in the care for their child with CF because it is very hard to do it with a partner's assistance. I can't imagine what it must be like to do it on your own all the time. > > I wonder if those men who go into denial about CF are really just trying to protect themselves from the worry CF can cause? or maybe from the pain of confronting the fact that we, as parents, passed this " bad " gene on as well as the good ones that we give? > Just my guess. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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