Re: Hi all, New yet old to the group and Plagio and learning problems??

[Guest guest]

You asked if anyone is concerned about learning problems in kids with

plagio and it sounds like you're connecting it to the plagio as

opposed to the corrective helmet. My 7-month-old just started his

helmet and my husband and I are worrying about the opposite--is there

any chance that the helmet itself could cause any kind of damage or

learning/attention problems?? I'd be interested in any anecdotal

information about connection between plagio (treated as well as

untreated) and learning problems. Thanks!

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have been in and out of this group over the years I have two

> daughters that went through the DOC band. I have a 9 year old

> daughter who had severe plagio when she was younger and went through

> the DOC band starting at 19 months old. She graduated from the band

> at 21 months old. Even after graduating from the DOC band, there was

> still a flat spot on her head, however no one can notice it unless

> they are feeling her head. Prior to getting into the DOC band she was

> in Occupational therapy from the time she was 8 months old and in

> speech therapy from the time she was 18 months old. After graduating

> from the DOC band her development improved a lot, however she was

> still having problems with her speech. When she was 5 or 6 we

> discovered that some of her speech problems were due to the muscle

> under her tongue being too tight and after having it cut by a laser

> her speech has improved. However she continued in speech therapy

> until last year when she was 8 years old.

>

> My youngesst daughter is now 4 and she had a more mild case of

> plagio, but severe enough that we went through a DOC band with her as

> well. She started in her band at 6 months old and graduated out of

> her band at 9 months old. She never required any type of therapy and

> is incredibly smart for her age. My youngest has no flat spot

> remaining.

>

> I am wondering if any of you have seen information on older kids who

> have had plagio in the past and are now having learning problems in

> school or problems with keeping focused. My older daughter is having

> some issues in school with learning and I am trying to figure out if

> there is a connection between plagio even with it being corrected,

> and learning problems in school later on. Also if there is a

> possibility that having a concussion after being treated or having

> plagio is any more severe or has other consequences than for kids who

> have not had plagio in the past.

>

> If any of you have questions I may be able to answer from when my

> kids went through the whole thing. I would be happy to help. I keep

> comming back to this group throughout the years as I miss the

> wonderful support this group provides.

>

> Johanna

>

[Guest guest]

I have read about parents here wondering if their children's delays

were related to plagio. However I haven't seen any evidence that they

are. My daughter wore a band from age 5 mo to 10 mo for brachy (flat

in back) and was on time or early for all her milestones. She is now 3

yrs old and very bright and physically coordinated too. I know other

plagio/banded kids who are exceptionally bright and those are are

pretty normal. I've been in this group for over 2 years and from what

I've read here there is no reason not to band.

-christine

sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have been in and out of this group over the years I have two

> > daughters that went through the DOC band. I have a 9 year old

> > daughter who had severe plagio when she was younger and went through

> > the DOC band starting at 19 months old. She graduated from the band

> > at 21 months old. Even after graduating from the DOC band, there was

> > still a flat spot on her head, however no one can notice it unless

> > they are feeling her head. Prior to getting into the DOC band she was

> > in Occupational therapy from the time she was 8 months old and in

> > speech therapy from the time she was 18 months old. After graduating

> > from the DOC band her development improved a lot, however she was

> > still having problems with her speech. When she was 5 or 6 we

> > discovered that some of her speech problems were due to the muscle

> > under her tongue being too tight and after having it cut by a laser

> > her speech has improved. However she continued in speech therapy

> > until last year when she was 8 years old.

> >

> > My youngesst daughter is now 4 and she had a more mild case of

> > plagio, but severe enough that we went through a DOC band with her as

> > well. She started in her band at 6 months old and graduated out of

> > her band at 9 months old. She never required any type of therapy and

> > is incredibly smart for her age. My youngest has no flat spot

> > remaining.

> >

> > I am wondering if any of you have seen information on older kids who

> > have had plagio in the past and are now having learning problems in

> > school or problems with keeping focused. My older daughter is having

> > some issues in school with learning and I am trying to figure out if

> > there is a connection between plagio even with it being corrected,

> > and learning problems in school later on. Also if there is a

> > possibility that having a concussion after being treated or having

> > plagio is any more severe or has other consequences than for kids who

> > have not had plagio in the past.

> >

> > If any of you have questions I may be able to answer from when my

> > kids went through the whole thing. I would be happy to help. I keep

> > comming back to this group throughout the years as I miss the

> > wonderful support this group provides.

> >

> > Johanna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My

daughter has been in the band for 11weeks. She’s always been a little on

the advanced side (walking at 9 months, 50 words by 14.5 months, combining

words by 15 months, and currently toilet training). We just participated in a

study for early identification of Autism (as a normally developing child) and

part of the assessment was developmental. She’s coming out at the 18 to

22 month range in all of her skills. Clearly, the band has not hindered her

thus far. All of the daughters have told us that her head shape would not cause

developmental or learning problems, so I’m assuming that there’s a

good body of literature out there saying this.

, mom to , 17 months 1

week

11 weeks in STARband plus CST

Re: Hi all, New

yet old to the group and Plagio and learning problems??

I have read about parents here wondering if their

children's delays

were related to plagio. However I haven't seen any evidence that they

are. My daughter wore a band from age 5 mo to 10 mo for brachy (flat

in back) and was on time or early for all her milestones. She is now 3

yrs old and very bright and physically coordinated too. I know other

plagio/banded kids who are exceptionally bright and those are are

pretty normal. I've been in this group for over 2 years and from what

I've read here there is no reason not to band.

-christine

sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have been in and out of this group over the years I have two

> > daughters that went through the DOC band. I have a 9 year old

> > daughter who had severe plagio when she was younger and went through

> > the DOC band starting at 19 months old. She graduated from the band

> > at 21 months old. Even after graduating from the DOC band, there was

> > still a flat spot on her head, however no one can notice it unless

> > they are feeling her head. Prior to getting into the DOC band she was

> > in Occupational therapy from the time she was 8 months old and in

> > speech therapy from the time she was 18 months old. After graduating

> > from the DOC band her development improved a lot, however she was

> > still having problems with her speech. When she was 5 or 6 we

> > discovered that some of her speech problems were due to the muscle

> > under her tongue being too tight and after having it cut by a laser

> > her speech has improved. However she continued in speech therapy

> > until last year when she was 8 years old.

> >

> > My youngesst daughter is now 4 and she had a more mild case of

> > plagio, but severe enough that we went through a DOC band with her as

> > well. She started in her band at 6 months old and graduated out of

> > her band at 9 months old. She never required any type of therapy and

> > is incredibly smart for her age. My youngest has no flat spot

> > remaining.

> >

> > I am wondering if any of you have seen information on older kids who

> > have had plagio in the past and are now having learning problems in

> > school or problems with keeping focused. My older daughter is having

> > some issues in school with learning and I am trying to figure out if

> > there is a connection between plagio even with it being corrected,

> > and learning problems in school later on. Also if there is a

> > possibility that having a concussion after being treated or having

> > plagio is any more severe or has other consequences than for kids who

> > have not had plagio in the past.

> >

> > If any of you have questions I may be able to answer from when my

> > kids went through the whole thing. I would be happy to help. I keep

> > comming back to this group throughout the years as I miss the

> > wonderful support this group provides.

> >

> > Johanna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I’m

sorry that it’s taken me so long to respond. I just posted some pictures

of under the N file ( W). The pictures were taken after only 8

weeks in the STARband. We are now at 12 weeks. She was scanned at 9 weeks and

we’d had 8 mm of growth since the scan for the helmet. Her original scan

showed 95 percent. The scan for the helmet showed 93.9 percent (we attribute

the improvement to her CST treatments). At 9 weeks, she was down to 92.3

percent.

In the pictures, the first picture is

days before the helmet. I don’t have any pictures of those angles before

we started the CST.

We didn’t know what to expect from

for a couple of reasons. First, her head is very small (below the 3rd

percentile-43 cm at 15 months) so any improvement would have a greater effect

on a percentage change. Second, we reasoned that she was due a growth spurt

because she had difficulties with growth during the several months prior. Due

to reflux and food allergy issues, she was DX with failure to thrive because

she got down from the 25th to the 5th percentile within a

few months. She was refusing all solids at one point and for a while, wouldn’t

take the bottle from daycare. All she would do was nurse. We got her past that

and she started eating really well a couple months prior to getting in the

helmet. She was up to the 10th percentile when we got in the helmet.

She is still eating really well most of the time. At a recent appointment for

an ear infection, she was actually above the 10th, but not at the 25th

yet. So, we are still hoping for more of a growth spurt.

Have you thought about looking into CST?

We believe that some of ’s improvements have been due to this.

, mom to , 17.5 months

12 weeks in STARband plus CST.

Re: Hi all, New

yet old to the group and Plagio and learning problems??

Hi

My son Aneeq is same age as ur daughter . seem to be

doing fantastic.How is her res in starband so far.Do u have before

and after pictures of her u can share with.myson is in local band for

2 months now with little imporovement.

Thanks

Naz

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I have been in and out of this group over the years I have two

> > > daughters that went through the DOC band. I have a 9 year old

> > > daughter who had severe plagio when she was younger and went

through

> > > the DOC band starting at 19 months old. She graduated from the

band

> > > at 21 months old. Even after graduating from the DOC band,

there was

> > > still a flat spot on her head, however no one can notice it

unless

> > > they are feeling her head. Prior to getting into the DOC band

she was

> > > in Occupational therapy from the time she was 8 months old and

in

> > > speech therapy from the time she was 18 months old. After

graduating

> > > from the DOC band her development improved a lot, however she

was

> > > still having problems with her speech. When she was 5 or 6 we

> > > discovered that some of her speech problems were due to the

muscle

> > > under her tongue being too tight and after having it cut by a

laser

> > > her speech has improved. However she continued in speech

therapy

> > > until last year when she was 8 years old.

> > >

> > > My youngesst daughter is now 4 and she had a more mild case of

> > > plagio, but severe enough that we went through a DOC band with

her as

> > > well. She started in her band at 6 months old and graduated out

of

> > > her band at 9 months old. She never required any type of

therapy and

> > > is incredibly smart for her age. My youngest has no flat spot

> > > remaining.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if any of you have seen information on older

kids who

> > > have had plagio in the past and are now having learning

problems in

> > > school or problems with keeping focused. My older daughter is

having

> > > some issues in school with learning and I am trying to figure

out if

> > > there is a connection between plagio even with it being

corrected,

> > > and learning problems in school later on. Also if there is a

> > > possibility that having a concussion after being treated or

having

> > > plagio is any more severe or has other consequences than for

kids who

> > > have not had plagio in the past.

> > >

> > > If any of you have questions I may be able to answer from when

my

> > > kids went through the whole thing. I would be happy to help. I

keep

> > > comming back to this group throughout the years as I miss the

> > > wonderful support this group provides.

> > >

> > > Johanna

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I

also saw the infomercial and was tempted to buy it. While I believe that many

babies can probably learn to read, I’m not sure that I want to

have this one advanced skill. I’d rather focus on helping her develop in

all avenues. So, we do work with her on her development in general and trust

that the experiences we are providing her will prepare her well for learning in

general. I work in the educational field and so I know that things like

background knowledge as well as normal preparing for kindergarten and

experience with books make great strides towards getting our kids ready to do

well in school.

That’s just my opinion. Rather

than spending the money on this program, I would spend it on things like mommy

and me classes, puzzles, books, etc. We take and Aidan to mommy and me

gymnastics, baby/toddler story time, and they had mommy and me swimming last

summer.

Re: Hi all, New

yet old to the group and Plagio and learning problems??

I have

read about parents here wondering if their children's delays

were related to plagio. However I haven't seen any evidence that they

are. My daughter wore a band from age 5 mo to 10 mo for brachy (flat

in back) and was on time or early for all her milestones. She is now 3

yrs old and very bright and physically coordinated too. I know other

plagio/banded kids who are exceptionally bright and those are are

pretty normal. I've been in this group for over 2 years and from what

I've read here there is no reason not to band.

-christine

sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have been in and out of this group over the years I have two

> > daughters that went through the DOC band. I have a 9 year old

> > daughter who had severe plagio when she was younger and went through

> > the DOC band starting at 19 months old. She graduated from the band

> > at 21 months old. Even after graduating from the DOC band, there was

> > still a flat spot on her head, however no one can notice it unless

> > they are feeling her head. Prior to getting into the DOC band she was

> > in Occupational therapy from the time she was 8 months old and in

> > speech therapy from the time she was 18 months old. After graduating

> > from the DOC band her development improved a lot, however she was

> > still having problems with her speech. When she was 5 or 6 we

> > discovered that some of her speech problems were due to the muscle

> > under her tongue being too tight and after having it cut by a laser

> > her speech has improved. However she continued in speech therapy

> > until last year when she was 8 years old.

> >

> > My youngesst daughter is now 4 and she had a more mild case of

> > plagio, but severe enough that we went through a DOC band with her as

> > well. She started in her band at 6 months old and graduated out of

> > her band at 9 months old. She never required any type of therapy and

> > is incredibly smart for her age. My youngest has no flat spot

> > remaining.

> >

> > I am wondering if any of you have seen information on older kids who

> > have had plagio in the past and are now having learning problems in

> > school or problems with keeping focused. My older daughter is having

> > some issues in school with learning and I am trying to figure out if

> > there is a connection between plagio even with it being corrected,

> > and learning problems in school later on. Also if there is a

> > possibility that having a concussion after being treated or having

> > plagio is any more severe or has other consequences than for kids who

> > have not had plagio in the past.

> >

> > If any of you have questions I may be able to answer from when my

> > kids went through the whole thing. I would be happy to help. I keep

> > comming back to this group throughout the years as I miss the

> > wonderful support this group provides.

> >

> > Johanna

> >

>