Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 OK Here is the nice version. To the Editors: Galen, the great physician and philosopher born in A.D. 129, pronounced his view that in the body, blood was continuously being created on the arterial side and then being continuously being consumed on the venous side. This became the unquestioned medical " truth " for 1,400 years until Harvey successfully challenged Galen's view showing that a fixed amount of blood circulated within the body. Like Harvey's transformation of the science of blood circulation, laparoscopic surgery is revolutionizing many areas of both General and Bariatric Surgery. Revolutions are by their very nature inherently disruptive and painful, often requiring a review of previously held assumptions. While some embrace the revolutionary aspects of laparoscopic surgery, others have raised concerns in particular about the laparoscopically performed " Mini-Gastric Bypass. " Some have likened the " Mini-Gastric Bypass " (MGB) to the old Mason loop gastric bypass. A variety of studies have shown the failure of the old loop bypass [5-7]. But, the Mini-Gastric Bypass is NOT the old loop gastric bypass, it is a different procedure and the previously well-documented problems and complications of the old Mason loop gastric bypass have not occurred in the modern series of 817 MGB patients. Since it is well recognized that the old Mason loop gastric bypass routinely leads to a number of well documented complications and since these complications are not present in the series of MGB patients it is clear, that they can not be the same operation. Another concern raised by some is the potential association of the Billroth II anastomoses and gastric cancer. A casual review of the medical literature can turn up articles that can to a cursory review seem to raise concerns about the relation between the Billroth II and gastric cancer. A more thoughtful review shows this is not a reasonable concern. A number of the papers showing an association between BII and gastric cancer are out of date. An example of a well-done study looking at this issue published in the New England Journal was the article by Schafer et. al. (). In this study the Mayo Clinic group studied residents of Olmsted County, Minnesota, who had surgery for ulcer disease from 1935 to 1959. These patients were followed for over 5,635 person-years. They found gastric cancer in only two of the patients in the surgical group, as compared with an expected rate of 2.6 persons. That is, they found that the rate of gastric cancer in the surgery patients was actually lower than that seen in unoperated controls. Numerous other long-term studies of BII patients have found no evidence of an increased incidence of gastric cancer. In a recent study by Bassily et. al. ([ii]) the records of 569 patients who had a partial gastrectomy for ulcer disease were analysed. Five hundred and seven patients (83.5%) had a Billroth II procedure. They showed that " the risk of gastric cancer was not increased after Billroth II partial gastrectomy. " In another study by Luukkonen et. al. ([iii]) the risk of gastric cancer after gastric surgery for ulcer in Finland was studied. Six patients of the 285 developed gastric cancer 6, 7, 8, 21, 25 and 27 years after the operation. The risk of contracting gastric cancer in a control population (individuals who had no operation) of equal size and age during a similar follow-up period was 8 cases. That is to say, the operated patients had lower risk of gastric cancer than nonoperated patients. This study, as well as many others, shows that the risk of gastric cancer does not significantly increase after partial gastrectomy for benign peptic ulcer. It is true that there are some studies that appear to show an increased risk of gastric stump cancer as compared to the general population. But these studies are seriously flawed. All of the studies that show slight increases in the rate of gastric cancer following BII include patients that have had the surgery for ulcer disease. The problem with this study design is the fact that it has been well demonstrated that gastric ulcer is associated with an increased risk of gastric cancer. For example, in a study by Molloy and Sonnenberg ([iv]) the association between ulcer and gastric cancer was demonstrated in patients from the US Department of Veterans Affairs. 3,078 subjects with gastric cancer were compared with a 89,082 people without gastric cancer. This study showed that gastric ulcer patients had an increased rate of gastric cancer (relative risk 1.53, Note that this increased risk is similar in magnitude to the increased risk reported in the studies showing an increased risk of gastric cancer in BII surgical patients.) Many other studies confirm these findings that ulcer patients have an increased risk of gastric cancer. In a study by Hansson et. al. published in the New England Journal of Medicine ([v]) the risk of stomach cancer in 57,936 patients was analyzed. The rate of gastric cancer among patients with gastric ulcers was increased at 1.8 times. Again, this value is very similar to that reported for the increase seen in some studies of post-gastrectomy patients. They concluded that gastric ulcer disease and gastric cancer have causative factors in common. Thus the studies that find small increased rates of gastric cancer in post gastrectomy patients may simply be identifying gastric ulcer patients that are prone to develop gastric cancer regardless of the any surgery they may have had. It is also important to look at the actual size of the increased risk of stomach cancer reported in the series that seem to find and increased risk of stomach cancer in post gastrectomy patients. As described above the majority of studies find no increased risk of gastric cancer in BII patients, but in the studies that do find an increase in risk, how much of an increase is seen and how does this compare to other factors involved in the development of gastric cancer? Analysis of these issues can put these studies reporting an increased risk of gastric cancer into proper perspective. Hundreds of articles have looked at factors that affect the development of gastric cancer. These studies indicate that salted, smoked, pickled, and preserved foods (rich in salt, nitrite, and preformed N-nitroso compounds) are associated with an increased risk of gastric cancer. In contrast, good evidence has been found that the high consumption of fresh fruit and raw vegetables and a high intake of antioxidants are associated with reduced risks of gastric cancer ([vi]). Now with all of these factors where is post-gastrectomy positioned as a risk factor? Extensive research shows that gastric cancer has an environmental cause, of which diet appears to be the most important component ([vii].) Studies show that there is an approximately a threefold increased risk of gastric cancer for frequent consumption of fresh and processed meats (relative risk 3.1 and 3.2). Gastric cancer risk rises with increasing intake of smoked and pickled foods (relative risk 3.7) All of these changes are as much as twice as high as that seen with the studies showing an effect of gastrectomy on gastric cancer risk. Many studies also show a decreasing risk of stomach cancer with increasing frequency of vegetable consumption. Increased intake of citrus fruits (risk 0.47) and raw-green vegetables (risk 0.56) appear to be protective. Consumption of salty snacks more than twice per month has been associated with an 80 percent increased risk ([viii]). These findings are consistent with many studies around the world that indicate important roles for salt, processed meats, and vegetable consumption in the risk of gastric cancer. There are dozens more articles like these but we can summarize these findings as follows: Billroth II post gastrectomy patients are at little or no increased risk of gastric cancer. If either they or their physicians are concerned it about gastric cancer it appears that very simple dietary modifications can have a much greater impact on the patient's lifetime risk of gastric cancer than that of the gastrectomy, i.e. avoiding processed meats, smoked and pickled foods while increasing one's intake of fresh fruits and vegetables, with or with out supplementation with additional antioxidant vitamins. Another way to put this is to say that a regular diet of baloney sandwiches appears to be of greater risk to a patient for the development of gastric cancer than the Billroth II. Helicobacter Pylori Evidence of an association between Helicobacter pylori infection and gastric cancer risk has been shown by most studies. The increased risk is two- to threefold increase in risk over normal. Again studies clearly show that H Pylori not gastrectomy appears to be the risk factor associated with gastric cancer and physicians who feel this is of concern can provide treatment to eradiate H. Pylori to patients. It may also be of value to point out that thousands of general surgeons routinely perform the BII anastomoses on a daily basis. Tens of thousands of patients undergo BII type gastrojejunostomy on a yearly basis and there is no ground swell effort being generated against the risk of the BII type anastomoses. Some have called for laparoscopists " not re-invent surgical techniques " concerned that the laparoscopic surgery might modify an open technique. Yet is that not what all physicians and surgeons truly hope for, that newer and better techniques will be devised over time and that these newer techniques will be put to the service of our patients. Surgeons have a long history of fighting against change. Surgeons fought antisepsis, changes in breast cancer surgery, closed suction drainage and uncounted other improvements in medical care. Rather than welcoming change surgeons have repeatedly shown themselves instead to be hidebound conservatives unwilling to see the light of a new day. They have failed to embrace change so often that it has come to be a defining characteristic of surgery. The Mini-Gastric Bypass is a remarkable new development in Bariatric surgery. It is supported by the most extensive database and data collection effort ever put forth to document the outcomes of a Bariatric surgical procedure. To date more than 817 patients have undergone the procedure. The complication rate is 5.3% over all, the mortality rate is 0.12%, the operative time averages 38 + 9.2 minutes, the mean hospital stay is 1.1 + 1 day and the hospital charges are 20-30% of that charged by others. In the series of 817 patients there are no hernias, pulmonary emboli or episodes of DVT to date. And, the surgery is easily revised or reversed. The weight loss is comparable or better than any other reported series. While more work needs to be done, it is clear that rather than calling for laparoscopic surgeons not to be innovators, all of the members of the medical community must continually question our past beliefs. If new data exposes past theories to the harsh light of reality then so be it. We should all be long past the days of Galen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- N Engl. J Med 1983 Nov 17; 309(20): 1210-3 The risk of gastric carcinoma after surgical treatment for benign ulcer disease. A population-based study in Olmsted County, Minnesota. Schafer LW, Larson DE, Melton LJ 3d, Higgins JA, Ilstrup DM [ii] J Gastroenterol Hepatol 2000 Jul;15(7):762-5 Risk of gastric cancer is not increased after partial gastrectomy. Bassily R, Smallwood RA, Crotty B [iii] Hepatogastroenterology 1990 Aug; 37(4): 392-4 Decreased risk of gastric stump carcinoma after partial gastrectomy supplemented with bile diversion. Luukkonen P, Kalima T, Kivilaakso E [iv] Gut 1997 Feb; 40(2): 247-52 Relation between gastric cancer and previous peptic ulcer disease. Molloy RM, Sonnenberg A [v] N Engl J Med 1996 Jul 25;335(4):242-9, The risk of stomach cancer in patients with gastric or duodenal ulcer disease. Hansson LE, Nyren O, Hsing AW, Bergstrom R, fsson S, Chow WH, Fraumeni JF Jr, Adami HO [vi] J Gastroenterol. 2000; 35 Suppl 12:84-9 Epidemiology of gastric cancer: an evaluation of available evidence. Palli D [vii] Cancer 1993 Mar 1; 71(5): 1731-5 Dietary factors and gastric cancer risk. A case-control study in Spain. Ramon JM, Serra L, Cerdo C, Oromi J. [viii] Am J Epidemiol 1999 May 15; 149(10): 925-32 Dietary factors and the risk of gastric cancer in Mexico City. Ward MH, -Carrillo L. RR Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery 4301 Ben lin Blvd. Durham, N.C. 27704 Telephone #: Fax #: Email: DrR@... ************************************************ Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net ************************************************ Please join the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at http://www.onelist.com The Latest Version of the Mini-Gastric Bypass Patient Education Manual ( http://www.clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm ) Imagine a 30 min. Outpatient cure for Obesity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2000 Report Share Posted August 27, 2000 In a message dated 08/27/2000 12:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dr_Rutledge@... writes: << It is also important to look at the actual size of the increased risk of stomach cancer reported in the series that seem to find and increased risk of stomach cancer in post gastrectomy patients. >> I believe this should read " an. " Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2000 Report Share Posted August 27, 2000 In a message dated 08/27/2000 12:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dr_Rutledge@... writes: << If either they or their physicians are concerned it about gastric cancer it appears that very simple dietary modifications can have a much greater impact on the patient's >> I think you meant to remove the word " it. " Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2000 Report Share Posted August 27, 2000 I loved your letter. It was informative and concise. Even I understood it. It also made me question my southern tradition of bacon, smoked meats, etc. Good Luck Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2000 Report Share Posted August 27, 2000 Nahhh, I like the other version better. Sorry but they need a sting! Lissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 Hi Dr. R, I think this version of the letter sounds so much more positive than the last version. I think it addresses the issue without personally addressing the author of the original letter, which makes for a stronger response. - waiting in Chicago My Letter (Nice) OK Here is the nice version. To the Editors: Galen, the great physician and philosopher born in A.D. 129, pronounced his view that in the body, blood was continuously being created on the arterial side and then being continuously being consumed on the venous side. This became the unquestioned medical " truth " for 1,400 years until Harvey successfully challenged Galen's view showing that a fixed amount of blood circulated within the body. Like Harvey's transformation of the science of blood circulation, laparoscopic surgery is revolutionizing many areas of both General and Bariatric Surgery. Revolutions are by their very nature inherently disruptive and painful, often requiring a review of previously held assumptions. While some embrace the revolutionary aspects of laparoscopic surgery, others have raised concerns in particular about the laparoscopically performed " Mini-Gastric Bypass. " Some have likened the " Mini-Gastric Bypass " (MGB) to the old Mason loop gastric bypass. A variety of studies have shown the failure of the old loop bypass [5-7]. But, the Mini-Gastric Bypass is NOT the old loop gastric bypass, it is a different procedure and the previously well-documented problems and complications of the old Mason loop gastric bypass have not occurred in the modern series of 817 MGB patients. Since it is well recognized that the old Mason loop gastric bypass routinely leads to a number of well documented complications and since these complications are not present in the series of MGB patients it is clear, that they can not be the same operation. Another concern raised by some is the potential association of the Billroth II anastomoses and gastric cancer. A casual review of the medical literature can turn up articles that can to a cursory review seem to raise concerns about the relation between the Billroth II and gastric cancer. A more thoughtful review shows this is not a reasonable concern. A number of the papers showing an association between BII and gastric cancer are out of date. An example of a well-done study looking at this issue published in the New England Journal was the article by Schafer et. al. (). In this study the Mayo Clinic group studied residents of Olmsted County, Minnesota, who had surgery for ulcer disease from 1935 to 1959. These patients were followed for over 5,635 person-years. They found gastric cancer in only two of the patients in the surgical group, as compared with an expected rate of 2.6 persons. That is, they found that the rate of gastric cancer in the surgery patients was actually lower than that seen in unoperated controls. Numerous other long-term studies of BII patients have found no evidence of an increased incidence of gastric cancer. In a recent study by Bassily et. al. ([ii]) the records of 569 patients who had a partial gastrectomy for ulcer disease were analysed. Five hundred and seven patients (83.5%) had a Billroth II procedure. They showed that " the risk of gastric cancer was not increased after Billroth II partial gastrectomy. " In another study by Luukkonen et. al. ([iii]) the risk of gastric cancer after gastric surgery for ulcer in Finland was studied. Six patients of the 285 developed gastric cancer 6, 7, 8, 21, 25 and 27 years after the operation. The risk of contracting gastric cancer in a control population (individuals who had no operation) of equal size and age during a similar follow-up period was 8 cases. That is to say, the operated patients had lower risk of gastric cancer than nonoperated patients. This study, as well as many others, shows that the risk of gastric cancer does not significantly increase after partial gastrectomy for benign peptic ulcer. It is true that there are some studies that appear to show an increased risk of gastric stump cancer as compared to the general population. But these studies are seriously flawed. All of the studies that show slight increases in the rate of gastric cancer following BII include patients that have had the surgery for ulcer disease. The problem with this study design is the fact that it has been well demonstrated that gastric ulcer is associated with an increased risk of gastric cancer. For example, in a study by Molloy and Sonnenberg ([iv]) the association between ulcer and gastric cancer was demonstrated in patients from the US Department of Veterans Affairs. 3,078 subjects with gastric cancer were compared with a 89,082 people without gastric cancer. This study showed that gastric ulcer patients had an increased rate of gastric cancer (relative risk 1.53, Note that this increased risk is similar in magnitude to the increased risk reported in the studies showing an increased risk of gastric cancer in BII surgical patients.) Many other studies confirm these findings that ulcer patients have an increased risk of gastric cancer. In a study by Hansson et. al. published in the New England Journal of Medicine ([v]) the risk of stomach cancer in 57,936 patients was analyzed. The rate of gastric cancer among patients with gastric ulcers was increased at 1.8 times. Again, this value is very similar to that reported for the increase seen in some studies of post-gastrectomy patients. They concluded that gastric ulcer disease and gastric cancer have causative factors in common. Thus the studies that find small increased rates of gastric cancer in post gastrectomy patients may simply be identifying gastric ulcer patients that are prone to develop gastric cancer regardless of the any surgery they may have had. It is also important to look at the actual size of the increased risk of stomach cancer reported in the series that seem to find and increased risk of stomach cancer in post gastrectomy patients. As described above the majority of studies find no increased risk of gastric cancer in BII patients, but in the studies that do find an increase in risk, how much of an increase is seen and how does this compare to other factors involved in the development of gastric cancer? Analysis of these issues can put these studies reporting an increased risk of gastric cancer into proper perspective. Hundreds of articles have looked at factors that affect the development of gastric cancer. These studies indicate that salted, smoked, pickled, and preserved foods (rich in salt, nitrite, and preformed N-nitroso compounds) are associated with an increased risk of gastric cancer. In contrast, good evidence has been found that the high consumption of fresh fruit and raw vegetables and a high intake of antioxidants are associated with reduced risks of gastric cancer ([vi]). Now with all of these factors where is post-gastrectomy positioned as a risk factor? Extensive research shows that gastric cancer has an environmental cause, of which diet appears to be the most important component ([vii].) Studies show that there is an approximately a threefold increased risk of gastric cancer for frequent consumption of fresh and processed meats (relative risk 3.1 and 3.2). Gastric cancer risk rises with increasing intake of smoked and pickled foods (relative risk 3.7) All of these changes are as much as twice as high as that seen with the studies showing an effect of gastrectomy on gastric cancer risk. Many studies also show a decreasing risk of stomach cancer with increasing frequency of vegetable consumption. Increased intake of citrus fruits (risk 0.47) and raw-green vegetables (risk 0.56) appear to be protective. Consumption of salty snacks more than twice per month has been associated with an 80 percent increased risk ([viii]). These findings are consistent with many studies around the world that indicate important roles for salt, processed meats, and vegetable consumption in the risk of gastric cancer. There are dozens more articles like these but we can summarize these findings as follows: Billroth II post gastrectomy patients are at little or no increased risk of gastric cancer. If either they or their physicians are concerned it about gastric cancer it appears that very simple dietary modifications can have a much greater impact on the patient's lifetime risk of gastric cancer than that of the gastrectomy, i.e. avoiding processed meats, smoked and pickled foods while increasing one's intake of fresh fruits and vegetables, with or with out supplementation with additional antioxidant vitamins. Another way to put this is to say that a regular diet of baloney sandwiches appears to be of greater risk to a patient for the development of gastric cancer than the Billroth II. Helicobacter Pylori Evidence of an association between Helicobacter pylori infection and gastric cancer risk has been shown by most studies. The increased risk is two- to threefold increase in risk over normal. Again studies clearly show that H Pylori not gastrectomy appears to be the risk factor associated with gastric cancer and physicians who feel this is of concern can provide treatment to eradiate H. Pylori to patients. It may also be of value to point out that thousands of general surgeons routinely perform the BII anastomoses on a daily basis. Tens of thousands of patients undergo BII type gastrojejunostomy on a yearly basis and there is no ground swell effort being generated against the risk of the BII type anastomoses. Some have called for laparoscopists " not re-invent surgical techniques " concerned that the laparoscopic surgery might modify an open technique. Yet is that not what all physicians and surgeons truly hope for, that newer and better techniques will be devised over time and that these newer techniques will be put to the service of our patients. Surgeons have a long history of fighting against change. Surgeons fought antisepsis, changes in breast cancer surgery, closed suction drainage and uncounted other improvements in medical care. Rather than welcoming change surgeons have repeatedly shown themselves instead to be hidebound conservatives unwilling to see the light of a new day. They have failed to embrace change so often that it has come to be a defining characteristic of surgery. The Mini-Gastric Bypass is a remarkable new development in Bariatric surgery. It is supported by the most extensive database and data collection effort ever put forth to document the outcomes of a Bariatric surgical procedure. To date more than 817 patients have undergone the procedure. The complication rate is 5.3% over all, the mortality rate is 0.12%, the operative time averages 38 + 9.2 minutes, the mean hospital stay is 1.1 + 1 day and the hospital charges are 20-30% of that charged by others. In the series of 817 patients there are no hernias, pulmonary emboli or episodes of DVT to date. And, the surgery is easily revised or reversed. The weight loss is comparable or better than any other reported series. While more work needs to be done, it is clear that rather than calling for laparoscopic surgeons not to be innovators, all of the members of the medical community must continually question our past beliefs. If new data exposes past theories to the harsh light of reality then so be it. We should all be long past the days of Galen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- N Engl. J Med 1983 Nov 17; 309(20): 1210-3 The risk of gastric carcinoma after surgical treatment for benign ulcer disease. A population-based study in Olmsted County, Minnesota. Schafer LW, Larson DE, Melton LJ 3d, Higgins JA, Ilstrup DM [ii] J Gastroenterol Hepatol 2000 Jul;15(7):762-5 Risk of gastric cancer is not increased after partial gastrectomy. Bassily R, Smallwood RA, Crotty B [iii] Hepatogastroenterology 1990 Aug; 37(4): 392-4 Decreased risk of gastric stump carcinoma after partial gastrectomy supplemented with bile diversion. Luukkonen P, Kalima T, Kivilaakso E [iv] Gut 1997 Feb; 40(2): 247-52 Relation between gastric cancer and previous peptic ulcer disease. Molloy RM, Sonnenberg A [v] N Engl J Med 1996 Jul 25;335(4):242-9, The risk of stomach cancer in patients with gastric or duodenal ulcer disease. Hansson LE, Nyren O, Hsing AW, Bergstrom R, fsson S, Chow WH, Fraumeni JF Jr, Adami HO [vi] J Gastroenterol. 2000; 35 Suppl 12:84-9 Epidemiology of gastric cancer: an evaluation of available evidence. Palli D [vii] Cancer 1993 Mar 1; 71(5): 1731-5 Dietary factors and gastric cancer risk. A case-control study in Spain. Ramon JM, Serra L, Cerdo C, Oromi J. [viii] Am J Epidemiol 1999 May 15; 149(10): 925-32 Dietary factors and the risk of gastric cancer in Mexico City. Ward MH, -Carrillo L. RR Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery 4301 Ben lin Blvd. Durham, N.C. 27704 Telephone #: Fax #: Email: DrR@... ************************************************ Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net ************************************************ Please join the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at http://www.onelist.com The Latest Version of the Mini-Gastric Bypass Patient Education Manual ( http://www.clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm ) Imagine a 30 min. Outpatient cure for Obesity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com Please visit our web site at http://clos.net Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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