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Marilyn,

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people making these

fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's pretty

sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always been

considered a wonderful cook by everyone. Well, now that I'm so restricted

on ingredients, I just can't seem to create those gormet meals anymore. So,

should I try an scd cook book, or do you think that I will just get creative

as we get more accustommed to the diet? I saw your list of dishes, and I

just thought " Wow, see that's what I want " . I'm sure that you created a lot

of the wonderful dishes on your own. I'm certainly going to check out the

scd recipe site again. Any other suggestions? I know that the gormet food

is doable, I just am at a loss.

Meleah

scd 3 mths.

iel 3yrs, asd

Ethan 5yrs, Mark 1yr., both healthy

What to Eat?

> Someone once wrote to me, " Saying what is forbidden is pretty depressing.

> How about a list of what you can have? Please, someone who knows. "

>

> My reply to her was as follows:

>

> Why depressing? I suppose if your diet has been mainly pasta, rice, and

> potatoes, it would be.

>

> It's downright scary to completely rearrange the way you think about food,

> and what you consider healthy - especially when what you're asked to do

> seems to fly in the face of what you've always been told. Whether you've

> been a vegetarian, a consumer of the Standard American Diet (SAD), or even

> someone who has tried, really tried to eat healthy, you're going

> to be making changes when you become an SCDer.

>

> Making the changes, giving up foods you may enjoy, or which are part of

> your culture, isn't easy. You may worry that people will think you are

> strange for going on such a restrictive diet. Or for putting your child on

> one!

>

> Especially threatening is making all these changes if you are physically,

> mentally, and emotionally fragile because of the condition of your health

> or that of a loved one.

>

> That said, you can have a wide variety of meat, vegetables, greens,

> fruits,

> cheeses, eggs, yogurt, etc. How you COMBINE these to make wonderful

> gourmet

> meals is entirely up to you.

>

> I can state that Harry and I are eating better than we ever have in over

> 30

> years of marriage.

>

> Prior to Hurricane Katrina, I used to have my parents over once a week for

> dinner. It was all SCD.

>

> One week, we had grilled catfish, and a shrimp salad with homemade

> remoulade dressing, and vanilla ice cream with blue berries.

>

> Another week, I did cheese burgers with steamed mixed veggies and homemade

> ranch dressing, and we had lemon cream pie for dessert.

>

> The next week, we had roast chicken and dressing, steamed green beans, and

> finished off the lemon cream pie.

>

> Then we had steaks, with mock-potato salad, and mixed green salad with

> honey-mustard dressing.

>

> I've also done super gourmet meals, like the oyster dinner for my Dad's

> birthday, including oyster and artichoke bisque, oysters Bienville,

> oysters

> Rockefeller, oysters Fitzpatrick and oysters on the half shell. Or the

> meal

> for their wedding anniversary with Greek-style egg-lemon soup,

> rosemary-garlic lamb roast, and savory mock-rice pilaf. You should have

> seen me last year for my parents' 60th Wedding Anniversary Celebration! We

> had ten family members in town for it, and I did SCD dinners four nights

> in

> a row for everyone, since, with me, my sister, my niece, and my

> great-nephew all SCD, it was easier to do SCD dinners at home than to try

> to find restaurants that would accommodate us. (I also got to come up with

> foodstuffs for the 90 person party my folks had that the SCDers could eat

> without feeling to out of place AND provide yogurt for all of us!

>

> Be aware, also, that when I do these meals, they must also be free of

> added

> sodium because of my mother's congestive heart failure.

>

> I also tracked down a low-sodium cheese to use for Mom (it wasn't SCD

> legal, so I used proper cheddar, monteray jack and provolone for the rest

> of us) so I could do Mexican food for my folks. My guacamole has been

> quite

> highly rated -- even by someone who hates avocado!

>

> It's got a little tricky in the months since Katrina because I found

> myself

> working full time for the first time since my back injury in 1982. My

> crock

> pot has been my lifesaver! (See

> http://www.scdrecipe.com/wp/2006/08/03/hurricane-katrina-crock-pots-and-the

> -scd/). So has my Foreman grille!

>

> SCD has forced me to think out of the box as far as meals are concerned.

>

> But limiting? Not on your life!

>

> And speaking of guacamole, I wonder if those avocadoes are ripe yet?

>

>

> -- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

> Undiagnosed IBS 25 Years, SCD Five Years

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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> Marilyn,

> That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people making these

> fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's pretty

> sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always been

> considered a wonderful cook by everyone. Well, now that I'm so restricted

> on ingredients, I just can't seem to create those gormet meals anymore. So,

> should I try an scd cook book, or do you think that I will just get creative

> as we get more accustommed to the diet? I saw your list of dishes, and I

> just thought " Wow, see that's what I want " . I'm sure that you created a lot

> of the wonderful dishes on your own. I'm certainly going to check out the

> scd recipe site again. Any other suggestions? I know that the gormet food

> is doable, I just am at a loss.

> Meleah

Counting SCD cookbooks, recipes on the Internet and the Yahoo group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/scdrecipe_creators/

There are at must be at least 1,000 SCD recipes out there. Many conventional

recipes can

be adapted for SCD. Just enter the things that interest you on " Google " or

" Yahoo " serach

pages. If yoiy precede them with " SCD " they'll take you right there.

There are recipes at:

www.pecanbread.com

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

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>> That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people making these

fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's pretty

sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always been

considered a wonderful cook by everyone. Well, now that I'm so restricted

on ingredients, I just can't seem to create those gormet meals anymore. <<

Meleah,

Pick a meal and I'll post the recipes for it. <g> Because I made my own

recipes for every single one of the meals in that listing.

The thing which I found was essential was not to focus on what you can't

have, but to figure out ways to make delicious what you can have.

For instance, I still don't tolerate a lot of fruit and honey, unless it's

well combined with fat and protein. Fruit smoothies are right out, even

though I love them! But apple-pecan cake works, and so does cherry-pecan

cake.

Basically, Keep It Simple until you begin to have a feeling for what your

ingredients will and won't do.

I built up a repertoire of " necessaries " to make just about any meal. There

was nothing quite so frustrating as thinking, " Gee, a beef-and-broccoli pie

would taste good tonight, " only to realize that I hadn't yet grated the

five pound block of cheddar in my fridge (or worse, didn't HAVE a five

pound block of cheddar in my fridge!) or that I didn't have the yogurt

cheese or... or... or...!

One of the hardest things about Hurricane Katrina for me (since we were

very fortunate not to lose our house to flooding) was losing the entire

contents of my fridge and freezer, including the fridge and freezer because

getting the stink out just wasn't possible. I'm only slowly beginning to

rebuild my stocks.

Do you have personal favorite recipes? Email me off the list and we can

play around with them and see what an SCD equivalent might be... and you

can see how substitutions might work.

Once you get that worked through, I'm betting you'll be as good an SCD cook

as you are a mundane cook!

In the mean time, there are excellent, child-friendly recipes at

www.pecanbread.com and a plethora of nifty recipes at www.scdrecipes.com.

-- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

Undiagnosed IBS 25 Years, SCD Five Years

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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>Meleah,

My son was doing well with eggs but then I over did it. He got to

where he could not tolerate them. I put him back on the enzymes that

he was on for eggs with gfcf-(we are strictly scd now) and he can eat

them again! I know some kids just flat can't tolerate eggs but we have

had really good luck with Enzym-Complete DPP-IV by Kirkman's for eggs.

I give him one capsule for 2 eggs and we don't do eggs everyday.

Mandy

> I neglected to say that I think I'm also so much more limitted

because we

> can't do eggs. Otherwise, we'd be doing queiche, omlets, ect.

Also, it

> appears that iel isn't ready for nuts. The legal peanut

butter was

> gone for about three days, so I picked up some almond butter to see

if it

> was just the peanuts or tree nuts, too. Well, last night he was

crying and

> making little outbursts for about an hour while he was asleep. So, my

> assumption is that the almond butter did it since nothing else was

new. I

> will probably wait a couple of weeks, and try the almond butter

again. If

> it happens again, how long should I wait before making another attempt?

> , thanks for the suggestions, and Marilyn thanks for being

willing

> to share any recipes with me. Carol, thanks for the yahoo scd recipe

> creators site. I'll be checking that out, and I'll get back to Marilyn

> about the recipes. In the meantime, anyone feel free to make

suggestions.

> Got to run as I'm frying hamburgers for iel's breakfast as we

speak.

> Meleah

>

> Re: What to Eat?

>

>

> >>> That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people

making these

> > fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's

pretty

> > sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always

been

>

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Did your son ever test possitive for an egg allergy? iel had a RAST

test done in late March...about one month before we started scd...and tested

a 2 on a scale of 0-4 for egg allergy. We have tried not to give him

anything with eggs since. Of course, he's managed to sneak bites of

muffins, cookies, pretzels, or whatever he can find since then, and has had

some egg exposure. I'd been told, however, that if he stays away from eggs,

he has a good chance that he can defeat that egg allergy because he is only

just now three years old. I actually never suspected an egg allergy. He

never gave me any reason to believe that he had any allergies...so I

thought. That was just one of the foods that we asked to be tested. So,

I'm not sure if I should try the enzymes, or just wait a while. My plan was

to have him retested next March after not having eaten eggs for about a year

to see what the result would be.

Meleah

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>>

>>

>> >>> That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people

> making these

>> > fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's

> pretty

>> > sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always

> been

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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> >>Meleah,

> > My son was doing well with eggs but then I over did it. He got to

> > where he could not tolerate them. I put him back on the enzymes that

> > he was on for eggs with gfcf-(we are strictly scd now) and he can eat

> > them again! I know some kids just flat can't tolerate eggs but we have

> > had really good luck with Enzym-Complete DPP-IV by Kirkman's for eggs.

> > I give him one capsule for 2 eggs and we don't do eggs everyday.

> >

> > Mandy

> >

> >

> >> I neglected to say that I think I'm also so much more limitted

> > because we

> >> can't do eggs. Otherwise, we'd be doing queiche, omlets, ect.

> > Also, it

> >> appears that iel isn't ready for nuts. The legal peanut

> > butter was

> >> gone for about three days, so I picked up some almond butter to see

> > if it

> >> was just the peanuts or tree nuts, too. Well, last night he was

> > crying and

> >> making little outbursts for about an hour while he was asleep.

So, my

> >> assumption is that the almond butter did it since nothing else was

> > new. I

> >> will probably wait a couple of weeks, and try the almond butter

> > again. If

> >> it happens again, how long should I wait before making another

attempt?

> >> , thanks for the suggestions, and Marilyn thanks for being

> > willing

> >> to share any recipes with me. Carol, thanks for the yahoo scd recipe

> >> creators site. I'll be checking that out, and I'll get back to

Marilyn

> >> about the recipes. In the meantime, anyone feel free to make

> > suggestions.

> >> Got to run as I'm frying hamburgers for iel's breakfast as we

> > speak.

> >> Meleah

> >>

> >> Re: What to Eat?

> >>

> >>

> >> >>> That's exactly what I'm talking about. I hear about people

> > making these

> >> > fabulous gormet meals that are scd, but I'm just stumped. That's

> > pretty

> >> > sad, too because I was a home ec major in college, and have always

> > been

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> > websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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This thread has been very interesting and inspiring. What is frustrating for me

is TIME? How

do people find the time? We barely get by cooking three boring meals a days.

It's next to

impossible to do much more. I'm completely overwhelmed.

I work 24 hours a week. My husband is a professor and has been a huge help this

summer. I

dread what happens in a few weeks when his classes start.

Also frustrated because I make huge dishes and they are gone in one meal. No

leftovers with

this crew. I should be happy, yes. But it's exhausting. I almost wish I had

little ones who ate

like birds.

Angie

SCD since July 1

entire family of four (ages 39, 39, 12 and 9)

to support 9 year old with

extreme ADHD and malabsorption

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Well Angie, having a bunch of little ones shouldn't comfort you because

they'd probably still eat it all up. Mine do anyway. Our large meals only

last two days at most. From what I've read, people usually do a big bulk

cooking day maybe once a month or so. I haven't gotten into that because

I'm still trying to figure out what to cook. I know that the bulk cooking

is probably a life saver. My sister-in-law has a family of eight, and she

does this every month. That day is a killer for her, but she's glad to have

it in the month or two to come. Their family isn't scd though, so it's a

lot easier for her to come up with good bulk recipes that freeze well. Or

at least that's how I feel. I'm coming to realize that I don't have to be

so overwhelmed with some good planning and cooks to give some

recommendations and guidance. I'm optomistic.

Meleah

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> This thread has been very interesting and inspiring. What is frustrating

> for me is TIME? How

> do people find the time? We barely get by cooking three boring meals a

> days. It's next to

> impossible to do much more. I'm completely overwhelmed.

>

> I work 24 hours a week. My husband is a professor and has been a huge

> help this summer. I

> dread what happens in a few weeks when his classes start.

>

> Also frustrated because I make huge dishes and they are gone in one meal.

> No leftovers with

> this crew. I should be happy, yes. But it's exhausting. I almost wish I

> had little ones who ate

> like birds.

>

> Angie

> SCD since July 1

> entire family of four (ages 39, 39, 12 and 9)

> to support 9 year old with

> extreme ADHD and malabsorption

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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>I know how you feel! Time is an issue, definitely. I have been doing

this since June 29 and I am just now feeling like I am doing a little

more than treading water. My kids eat like crazy on this diet. I feed

them something about every 2 hours until dinner-it is insane. My 5

year old is eating almost a pound of meat a meal, 3 meals a day plus

snacks! I am nervous about starting back to work a couple of days a

week because of the time issue. It would be hard to work full time and

do this. (I plan on going back to school soon for nutrition, holistic

medicine and one of my 'big plans' is to create a company that caters

to SCD-premade pear sauce, apple sauce etc. but this is obviously a

ways out, by then, maybe we wont need it :).

I do make big batches of the veggie pancakes and freeze them and limit

the kids on those and fill them up the rest of the way with ground

turkey. That way I have to make the time consuming stuff less often. I

also make big batches of yogurt in the oven. This is what my husband

takes to work for lunch along with some nuts. I just keep different

fruit purees in the fridge mixed with honey. I thow it together the

night before and he takes it in the morning.

I think this wiil get easier for us the further into it we get. I stay

really busy cooking but it is satisfying knowing that we are all

healing. It will be nice when I can say-here, have an apple, and just

hand them one.

Mandy

> This thread has been very interesting and inspiring. What is

frustrating for me is TIME? How

> do people find the time? We barely get by cooking three boring

meals a days. It's next to

> impossible to do much more. I'm completely overwhelmed.

>

> I work 24 hours a week. My husband is a professor and has been a

huge help this summer. I

> dread what happens in a few weeks when his classes start.

>

> Also frustrated because I make huge dishes and they are gone in one

meal. No leftovers with

> this crew. I should be happy, yes. But it's exhausting. I almost

wish I had little ones who ate

> like birds.

>

> Angie

> SCD since July 1

> entire family of four (ages 39, 39, 12 and 9)

> to support 9 year old with

> extreme ADHD and malabsorption

>

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> Well Angie, having a bunch of little ones shouldn't comfort you because

> they'd probably still eat it all up. Mine do anyway. Our large meals only

> last two days at most. From what I've read, people usually do a big bulk

> cooking day maybe once a month or so. I haven't gotten into that because

> I'm still trying to figure out what to cook. I know that the bulk cooking

> is probably a life saver. My sister-in-law has a family of eight, and she

> does this every month. That day is a killer for her, but she's glad to have

> it in the month or two to come. Their family isn't scd though, so it's a

> lot easier for her to come up with good bulk recipes that freeze well. Or

> at least that's how I feel. I'm coming to realize that I don't have to be

> so overwhelmed with some good planning and cooks to give some

> recommendations and guidance. I'm optomistic.

> Meleah

Even though I have no young children at home, thesre are days when I feel too

tired to

cook and rely on a salad or eggs for the evening meal, not ideal for family

dinners.

Some of us have found if we can periodically devote several hours to creating

SCD staple

standards in quantity and freezing them, It takes away some of the pressure.

One good investment was a large soup/stockpot. I make enough soup to last for

several

weeks and freeze it in individual containers. Same with Zuchinni lasagna in a

foil turkey

roasting pan. Muffins, well, I tend to not be trusted to keep from eating too

many too

often. Sevral loaves ( a double recipe) of Lois Lang Bread can be frozen, sliced

or unsliced.

My old pressure cooker is aluminum and should have been discarded ages ago. I

never us

it but have an earttenware casserole dish that can be used for a large slow

cooked recipe.

using the new safer pressure cookers would be very useful for SCD.

If you think about it and look at your favorite recipes, rotate making them in

quantity and

build up a stockpile of foods in reserve.

And fas or dessert, SCD Cheesecake freezes perfectly.

Carol F.

Celiac, SCD 6 years

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